Taj79 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Is out tonight against Davidson but this is more about the injury. I don't recall the play being such that it was traumatic and severe. I though the just got knocked down or was playing it as he had been almost all night. I am not astute enough to pull any video clips of the contact from the game feed and place them here. Can anyone else do that? Is it even doable at all? I don't even recall which Billiken was involved as I saw it as so minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Taj79 said: Is out tonight against Davidson but this is more about the injury. I don't recall the play being such that it was traumatic and severe. I though the just got knocked down or was playing it as he had been almost all night. I am not astute enough to pull any video clips of the contact from the game feed and place them here. Can anyone else do that? Is it even doable at all? I don't even recall which Billiken was involved as I saw it as so minor. Yuri hit him pretty hard as he dove for the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, BIG BILL FAN said: Yuri hit him pretty hard as he dove for the ball. Definitely hit him hard. I figured it would result in a shoulder separation of one degree or another. Was kind of surprised he was still on the bench at the end of the game. If it was a bad separation, he would've been taken to the locker room. Maybe a grade 1 separation at worst is my guess from watching him in the handshake line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Did I hear them say on the broadcast that Francis had surgery today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 It puzzled me. Yuri dove after a ball and hit Francis’ left side, but he hurt his right shoulder, looked like he might have had his arm extended. A shame to see happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Injury report... B Francis... G... 1/14/20....Questionable....right shoulder injury....it is uncertain if he will play Sat against GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Sucks when it happens. Sucked for Cody Ellis and sucks for Francis. I hope he returns this year. MusicCityBilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 hours ago, billikenbill said: Definitely hit him hard. I figured it would result in a shoulder separation of one degree or another. Was kind of surprised he was still on the bench at the end of the game. If it was a bad separation, he would've been taken to the locker room. Maybe a grade 1 separation at worst is my guess from watching him in the handshake line. Yes. Hard contact from Yuri. Clean play. Yuri dove for loose ball. Occurred towards end of game. ESPN Box score says Fancis played 30 minutes and play by play says he picked up a foul with 3:03 left in game so not much time left in game when it occurred. He did not move his arm at all afterwards. I could tell he was seriously hurt. Hope it is not as bad as I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Clock_Tower said: Yes. Hard contact from Yuri. Clean play. Yuri dove for loose ball. Occurred towards end of game. ESPN Box score says Fancis played 30 minutes and play by play says he picked up a foul with 3:03 left in game so not much time left in game when it occurred. He did not move his arm at all afterwards. I could tell he was seriously hurt. Hope it is not as bad as I suspect. I think it is a point of emphasis this year to call fouls on players who drive on top of guys who are on the floor trying to secure a loose ball. This is to prevent injuries. However, in this case Francis was bending over trying to grab the ball and Yuri dove in to get it, so the new point of emphasis doesn't really apply. If Francis had gone to the floor to get the ball instead of just reaching down, he probably doesn't get hurt and Yuri gets called for a foul. Just an weird kind of play and very unfortunate for Francis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: I think it is a point of emphasis this year to call fouls on players who drive on top of guys who are on the floor trying to secure a loose ball. This is to prevent injuries. However, in this case Francis was bending over trying to grab the ball and Yuri dove in to get it, so the new point of emphasis doesn't really apply. If Francis had gone to the floor to get the ball instead of just reaching down, he probably doesn't get hurt and Yuri gets called for a foul. Just an weird kind of play and very unfortunate for Francis. Didn't realize the point of emphasis. Thanks. No foul was call on that play, right? If ESPN is right, then Francis initially got called for a foul before Yuri dove or this scramble happened after the 3:03 time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, Clock_Tower said: Didn't realize the point of emphasis. Thanks. No foul was call on that play, right? If ESPN is right, then Francis initially got called for a foul before Yuri dove or this scramble happened after the 3:03 time frame. Correct, no foul on the play. It was a hell of a play by Yuri - one of many great hustle plays he made in the second half of that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I hate to see Francis out since it weakens Richmond and can have an effect on our NET. But if it had to happen to one of our opponents players, it serves him right based on his head-throw-back act whenever a Billiken came within 2 feet. He reminded me of one of my most-hated Billiken opposing players from the last few years. I think his name was Robbie Gray, with a cute little hair bun. Even to a greater degree than Francis, you would have thought he was shot by an AK 47 (?) whenever his pinkie was touched by one of our players. I know there is a new rule against flopping and I think this acting job should fall under that rule. Both are intended to mislead the refs into making an incorrect call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Clock_Tower said: Didn't realize the point of emphasis. Thanks. No foul was call on that play, right? If ESPN is right, then Francis initially got called for a foul before Yuri dove or this scramble happened after the 3:03 time frame. No foul on Yuri. I don't think Francis was called for a foul either. I believe Yuri dove on it and called a TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: No foul on Yuri. I don't think Francis was called for a foul either. I believe Yuri dove on it and called a TO. Both players were diving towards the ball coming from different angles. It was not a head on collision and nobody jumped on top of anyone either. The players were coming more from like a 90-100 degree angle and both happened to arrive at the same place at the same time. I don’t even think they saw one another as both were focused on the ball. Just a freak play. 3star_recruit likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SLU_Lax said: Both players were diving towards the ball coming from different angles. It was not a head on collision and nobody jumped on top of anyone either. The players were coming more from like a 90-100 degree angle and both happened to arrive at the same place at the same time. I don’t even think they saw one another as both were focused on the ball. Just a freak play. I could be remembering wrong, but I don't think Francis was diving. The ball bounced/rolled towards him so he leaned over to grab it and Yuri dove in. I agree that neither player saw the other one / intended to collide. Both were going for the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Francis had his hand on the floor which probably made things worse as it looked to me like it was bent awkwardly when Yuri dove into the play. Not a foul but not surprised that the injury was significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taj79 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 Thanks to everyone. Wow, HP, nice post. A sternum injury? That's the breastbone. I've heard of cracked ribs and all but all the way to the stabilizing plate? Again, just Wow! And I've had reconstructive shoulder surgery. Just did not see that coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppybeer Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Taj79 said: Thanks to everyone. Wow, HP, nice post. A sternum injury? That's the breastbone. I've heard of cracked ribs and all but all the way to the stabilizing plate? Again, just Wow! And I've had reconstructive shoulder surgery. Just did not see that coming. I separated the right side of my rib cage from my sternum when i was in college. One of the more painful injuries I've had. I slept sitting up for about a month and it took about 6 months to heal completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Yes. From the TV, he appeared to be "holding" his bone at the base of his throat. As the father of a son who broke his collar bone playing sports, I immediately thought - broken collar bone. Then he didn't move his arm at all - and had this occurred earlier in the game, then he would have gone to the lock room. But sternum? In hindsight, makes sense. Again, I wish him well and a speedy and full recovery. And yes, our win was a tough and good win as we beat them with him playing 37-38 minutes on their home court. Others, who get to play them without him in the lineup will have a far easier chance to win. And if they start to lose more and more without him, then our win will be diminished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He’s out 4-6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Bad news for Richmond. They're extremely top heavy. In addition to Francis being the leading scorer, they get very little production outside the top five - they average almost 75 PPG and only 16 PPG are from the bench. 4-6 weeks means Feb. 15th against VCU is about the earliest he'd return. They have 6 regular season games after that and the A10 Tournament starts March 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 20 hours ago, ACE said: Correct, no foul on the play. It was a hell of a play by Yuri - one of many great hustle plays he made in the second half of that game. Ford just talked about what a great play that was in his interview with Bernie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, wgstl said: He’s out 4-6 weeks. 3 hours ago, Pistol said: Bad news for Richmond. They're extremely top heavy. In addition to Francis being the leading scorer, they get very little production outside the top five - they average almost 75 PPG and only 16 PPG are from the bench. 4-6 weeks means Feb. 15th against VCU is about the earliest he'd return. They have 6 regular season games after that and the A10 Tournament starts March 11th. https://www.nbc12.com/2020/01/16/urs-blake-francis-out-several-weeks-with-chest-injury/ Fractured sternum. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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