Billikens4life Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, CenHudDude said: Some. Of it may have been in “garbage time”, but Has put up a double double with 5 blocks. He is a warrior. There were also other good takeaways from the game. Overall they were beaten today by a superior more mature team. The Billikens have great potential and will learn from this game. Has could put up a double double with his eyes closed. He's gifted My main thing with Has is that he can't be our go-to guy if he struggles this mightily with free throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, mrjoelabs said: He just needs more clock time. Probably should be starting soon. Has to be in the flow. And he plays best with Yuri I like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, willie said: Supposedly French makes his free throws in practice. I have said this before he needs to see a sport psychologist. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: I think this is a bit overreacting. It sucks and I'm pissed. But I don't think we can throw our head couch under the bus for our free throw struggles. I'm not looking at numbers but Has was the only one who hurt us if I'm not mistaken? Goodwin made a few and Bell hit at a decent clip. I think Has and Jordan looked ok. It just all happened so fast I need to go back and rewatch but I think calling them out is overreacting. I think they are both going to have big years. We will see. Chill out on Auburn and k state. Let's use this as a building block and get up to speed. We fell behind early and we never caught up. I think it's different if bell hits those free throws to start the game. I think we can hang with these teams. I really do. I'm very surprised/ dissapointed with how today transpired but im not done drinking the Kool aid. Trust in team blue. I will ride Team Blue until I die but shooting 56% as a team from the line doesn’t cut it. Doesn’t factor in the misses on 1 and 1s too. We will just have to disagree on the rest. See you guys for High Point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hasahn French is a 2nd-half player. I don't know why he can't hit free throws worth a darn. Today he hit 33.3% and improved his percentage for the season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Couple hours to reflect. that was an ass beating. i don’t think the effort was always there today. french and Goodwin aren’t as good as their stats show so far this season the free throw thing is just unacceptable. I’m about to sound like @billiken_roybut Ford has to be held accountable for this completely unacceptable tendency. no chance we beat Auburn or Kstate. This game was certainly a reality check but I’m looking forward to seeing the new guys develop. We actually match up pretty well with KState, even in the frontcourt. Looking forward to that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, billiken_roy said: Our inexperienced only one senior team lost to a possible final four team. Nothing else to discuss about tonight. Let's just move on. Yeah, I think all of us had this as a loss. Sure I wanted a better performance, but it didn’t happen. Seton Hall is loaded. Hopefully some of the younger guys learn from it, definitely good experience early in their careers. I feel better about this team thru 4 games than I did in July, so while today was bad, it is what it is. Someone mentioned the Kansas State game, I’m really interested in that one and Auburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, willie said: Supposedly French makes his free throws in practice. I have said this before he needs to see a sport psychologist. I agree. French’s form looks better than last year. He is capable of making them, he just doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, willie said: Supposedly French makes his free throws in practice. Is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, brianstl said: seton hall only out scored us in the paint by four Yeah but we had crucial turnovers forced by their length, multiple lost possessions from blocked shots and gave up a ton of offensive rebounds. In short, I think length (disrupting shots and passing lanes, getting second chances) is what separates a lot of the elite teams and it’s not something we’re well set up to combat right now. It certainly wasn’t the only thing that cost us tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, kmbilliken said: I agree. French’s form looks better than last year. He is capable of making them, he just doesn’t. I sit right behind the basket man, it looks really bad right now. It looked good in the first two games though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I sit right behind the basket man, it looks really bad right now. It looked good in the first two games though Yep. Not sure it that is actually the case or if I'm just crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said: A10 road games are challenging no matter who you're playing. And we have some tough road games, starting with the conference opener at Duquesne. But we ain't exactly chopped liver. Make a couple of more 3s and shoot a whole better from the line we're in this game tonight. Not saying we win, but it's not the blow out it was. I thought we really made some stupid decisions with the ball tonight: Yurimania, JGood, Has, Thatch. You can't take it to the trees. And God knows they had trees. 5 of them. If we had outside solid shooting tonight it would have been a game. No one's gonna shut down SH with Powell and their 5 seven footers. It's just too much. MSU didn't. That game could have gone either way. Yes, A10 roadies will be tough, but we got a team that can beat anyone in the A10. We will surprise a lot of folks this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Back home from the game and from dinner. I am sorry, I genuinely thought we could beat them but we were not successful against SH. They won by 17 pts over us. Too bad, a win is a win, a loss is a loss. This was a loss. Looking at the stats they beat us in rebounds (46 to 38), assists (18 to 10), and we had one turnover more than they did. We made equal number of blocks and steals. They had a lot more personal fouls than we did (26 to18), and two of their really big players were fouled out of the game in the 2nd half. The Bills did not have any players foul out. So what happened, they shot a lot better than we did and that made the difference. From my technically uneducated point of view, they were totally prepared to deal with our 5 starters and we managed relatively little against them when they were in. As the bench came in we tended to do better. From my point of view we lost the game during the initial 5 to 10 minutes of both halves, primarily the first half. During these periods SH built a point advantage we could not defeat. I thought we played better with the bench in, and after their 2 bigs were fouled out. Powell played an excellent game, although the results were just average for him. On our side French and Goodwin did better at the end when the two bigs had fouled out. They also had Jimerson figured out and he just managed to score in the double figures at the end of the second half, like Goodwin and French (and after the two bigs had fouled out). Many players contributed to a better level than they had before, Perkins and Bell did pretty well. Hankton did not play much and achieved little. Hargrove played 4 minutes scored 2 pts and got 3 rebounds. Overall the Bills tried hard and never gave up but SH was the dominant team for most of the game. So, we lost. And yes there are a lot of ifs that should they have come to pass would have improved our resutlst (FT shooting, improved FG scoring, more assists and rebounds), but they did not happen. Now on to the next game. The place was pretty full, the students did not leave at the half and there was a lot of enthusiasm. The refs made an number of really bad calls that also affected the results. Too bad. Let's look forward instead of wasting time wailing about this loss to SH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TheChosenOne said: Is that true? Ford has said he makes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, willie said: Ford has said he makes them. Thanks, that’s interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, willie said: Ford has said he makes them. Yeah. I’m starting to think this whole “they make them in practice” bit isn’t exactly true. If it were, sooner or later it would be showing in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: Yeah. I’m starting to think this whole “they make them in practice” bit isn’t exactly true. If it were, sooner or later it would be showing in games. Well, there's still about 90% of the season left. There's a lot of "later" for it to show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Well, there's still about 90% of the season left. There's a lot of "later" for it to show up. He said it last season too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: He said it last season too though. After 10 years of shooting free throws at around 45%, DeAndre Jordan all of sudden started shooting them over 65%. The battle has only just begun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: After 10 years of shooting free throws at around 45%, DeAndre Jordan all of sudden started shooting them over 65%. The battle has only just begun. Well, we pretty much have nowhere to go but up, so I'll join you in looking at things optimistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 The thing with Ford talking about what the players do in practice is now everything is electronic with ShotTracker. It was just installed in July so I am hoping that if Ford isn't lying, seeing it on their phones after every practice will give them more confidence when they step up to the line in games. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusam Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 The announcers said French was the first out for the pregame shooting and shot at least 100 freethrows. He shot a bunch at halftime and made most of them. He just somehow has to relax his arms when he is shooting during games. He seems way to tense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 -at this point HAS is a 32% FT shooter with 25 attempts, would it be appropriate for Frank to ask CFord if they have used or thought about a sports psychologist for this? CFord says HAS makes FT's in practice, clearly this is not translating to games -I will say in defense of HAS, the last two games at halftime he is on the FT line so he is aware, I agree his form looked better the first couple of games and if we can call this improvement his misses are closer than they used to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -at this point HAS is a 32% FT shooter with 25 attempts, would it be appropriate for Frank to ask CFord if they have used or thought about a sports psychologist for this? CFord says HAS makes FT's in practice, clearly this is not translating to games -I will say in defense of HAS, the last two games at halftime he is on the FT line so he is aware, I agree his form looked better the first couple of games and if we can call this improvement his misses are closer than they used to be im sure they dont, but I really hope they dont just tell French to go to a hoop in the corner and shoot ft's. You have to add elements. Quality Is Job 1 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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