Pistol Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Where did you get that turnover number from? Final box score has SLU w/ 16 and Valpo w/ 19 TOs for the game. My mistake. I read the box wrong at that moment. Must've been looking at the next column over, fouls. 16 is higher than I'd want, but not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Play of the game for me was Goodwin’s bounce pass to Jacobs as he was cutting around a screen. Pass was thrown before Jacobs cleared the screen. Jacobs finished with a layup. Six assists for Goodwin tonight. Pistol likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, EssEllYou said: Totally missed that. Hope you're right. Thanks Hargrove went in for Goodwin w/ :32 left in 1st. JGood had picked up his 2nd foul. JGood played 38 minutes tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pistol said: My mistake. I read the box wrong at that moment. Must've been looking at the next column over, fouls. 16 is higher than I'd want, but not that bad. The Bills definitely fouled too much tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssEllYou Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Goodwin looking like a triple-double threat again. Cant wait to see another this season. It will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, EssEllYou said: Has someone seen THJr in practice? Still scratching my head why he hasn’t seen a minute of playing time yet. Is there something I don’t know or what? Yea, Ford has to get the front of the rotation well integrated before he can invest heavy time in the back end of the rotation. He is really, really trying to get Bell in game shape, and Bell is working his ass off trying to get there, but at 1:30 into the second half, Bell was at the block for a free throw mouth breathing like a locomotive. I hope Hargrove is doing a Rocky routine on the weights, and being a dervish in practice, because we need him to claw out 10-15 mpg by the end of the season. Five key points from this game... 1) Welcome to D1, D Jacobs! Coming out parties are always fun, and your free throws and early scoring fired us up early and steadied us late. 2) Goodwin really showed added speed and strength, and good decision making, have substantially to his game. When Collins is in, I love how he looks to make primo dishes in the interior. 3) Collins really sought to put his stamp on the game on defense. Playing against a pg who clearly was a step faster, he tried to body him into help, he harried him in the backcourt, and he wisely played off him at the three pt line. He switched well, and was a very effective pest and rebounded well. 4) Despite getting punched in the mouth and losing almost all their lead, everyone maintained their composure, and we closed out the game while minimizing turnovers, hitting most free throws, and playing solid d. 5) Did we only have four or five hero ball plays? The fewer, the better. Goodwin had the charge and the travel where he was fouled, and Collins had his 3/4 ill advised bull rushes. Not many, so good. 3star_recruit, Clock_Tower, Spoon-Balls and 3 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sheltiedave said: Yea, Ford has to get the front of the rotation well integrated before he can invest heavy time in the back end of the rotation. He is really, really trying to get Bell in game shape, and Bell is working his ass off trying to get there, but at 1:30 into the second half, Bell was at the block for a free throw mouth breathing like a locomotive. I hope Hargrove is doing a Rocky routine on the weights, and being a dervish in practice, because we need him to claw out 10-15 mpg by the end of the season. Five key points from this game... 1) Welcome to D1, D Jacobs! Coming out parties are always fun, and your free throws and early scoring fired us up early and steadied us late. 2) Goodwin really showed added speed and strength, and good decision making, have substantially to his game. When Collins is in, I love how he looks to make primo dishes in the interior. 3) Collins really sought to put his stamp on the game on defense. Playing against a pg who clearly was a step faster, he tried to body him into help, he harried him in the backcourt, and he wisely played off him at the three pt line. He switched well, and was a very effective pest and rebounded well. 4) Despite getting punched in the mouth and losing almost all their lead, everyone maintained their composure, and we closed out the game while minimizing turnovers, hitting most free throws, and playing solid d. 5) Did we only have four or five hero ball plays? The fewer, the better. Goodwin had the charge and the travel where he was fouled, and Collins had his 3/4 ill advised bull rushes. Not many, so good. Just stop the Bell BS... billikenbill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 39 minutes ago, Pistol said: Ford said we played intermittent stretches of good and bad basketball. Couldn't get in a flow in the second half. They drew up plays for Goodwin, especially as French was struggling with foul trouble. He told Jacobs "You need to get me 15 points tonight" before the game. Said he didn't care how he did it. "I love Yuri Collins...I'm hard on Yuri Collins. He made a lot of great plays tonight and a lot of plays that make you scratch your head. He was trying to score it more tonight than he did in practice so you want to stick with what you do in practice. But he has the ability to make plays other people can't make. He can get from A to B, make passes. He's gonna be fine, but with freshmen, it's like a rollercoaster." - He is indeed hard on Yuri Collins. "We're still figuring out rotations, we're playing a lot of people. Right now, we have to figure out how to play better in the second half." There was one moment in the 2nd half w/ Yuri where he made a poor play and Ford was on the court yelling at him. Then a few minutes later when he came out Ford put his arm around him and talked to him. A bit of Coach discipline then soften it up with some Coach love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Without the benefit of replay it’s hard to tell how many of the FTs Valpo deserved. What I did see was that at one point the free throws were 31-13 in favor of Valpo. I’m not saying the Bills weren’t fouling but I have a hard time believing the free throws disparity is that big. It definitely made an other wise entertains game hard to watch. Westy03 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 45 minutes ago, EssEllYou said: Totally missed that. Hope you're right. Thanks it was easy to miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, EssEllYou said: Goodwin looking like a triple-double threat again. Cant wait to see another this season. It will happen. seems likely. for some nutty reason I thought he may play a few less minutes this season since we are so deep but that seems nuts now> Ford also said JG addressed squad at TO when lead was narrowed and said this is we are about that it was time to nail it down and they did. billikenbill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, EssEllYou said: Goodwin looking like a triple-double threat again. Cant wait to see another this season. It will happen. Collins might be such a threat, too, before his career is done if he keeps rebounding. Tonight he went for 9/6/5. EssEllYou likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Goodwin was +21 in 38 minutes. That means during the brief time he was out of the game, Valpo outscored the Bills by 10. RiseOfTheBillikens, Zink, cgeldmacher and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Last season, in total, Jacobs scored 8 points. He had 14 in the first half, and 20 for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikens4life Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: Interesting comment from Ford. “We had a few guys that weren’t ready to go tonight . I saw it at shoot around.” My first guess is Perkins. He just looked lackadaisical tonight billikenbill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 However it was, we won this game. We beat the spread, and Jacobs cut loose and scored 20 pts. Wonderful stuff. Now, onto the next one. Go Bills! dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: The Bills definitely fouled too much tonight. That was on the refs. Way to many fouls called on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, EssEllYou said: Totally missed that. Hope you're right. Thanks He still doesn’t look like he’s fully grasped the concepts Ford is trying to teach. He lookEd in the exhibition like he’s thinking his way through the offense and defense on the court and not just playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Billikens4life said: My first guess is Perkins. He just looked lackadaisical tonight That’s just Perkins. He lets the game come to him, he doesn’t look like he’s trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: He still doesn’t look like he’s fully grasped the concepts Ford is trying to teach. He lookEd in the exhibition like he’s thinking his way through the offense and defense on the court and not just playing. Exactly how Jacobs was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 59 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: That’s just Perkins. He lets the game come to him, he doesn’t look like he’s trying. Lol that is definitely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Key Comments from Highmark last night: 1.) French has yet to learn how to play when he's in foul trouble. He can do it by cutting back on the aggressive nature. Lose the battle but win the war. 2.) Yurmaniai made FR mistakes, but SLU's better with him in the game because he pushes the action. 3.) JGood showing why he was highly recruited; enough said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 What a fun game to be at again. It is a shame that so many did not show up and so many left early and did not applaud our team on their way off the floor. I now sit right over the tunnel and at least everyone near the tunnel stayed and stood up and cheered the team off the floor. The Jacobs coming out party was nice and he showed us why we were so excited about him choosing SLU. He shot well and attacked the basket. Jacobs does not have the Goodwin or French intense look on his face and I look forward to seeing Jacobs being a little more comfortable and seeing him have a 30 plus point night. Jordan Goodwin looked like a man among boys opposing his will on the visitors. He played 38 minutes and we needed him for all 38 minutes. His 2 missed free throws was the only blemish on a great night he had to be tired. KC Hankton played hard and was a solid contributor subbing for French. He played 22 minutes and was 2 of 3 from the line and had 8 points. Ford had set up a great play for KC with a great pick that got KC wide open for a 3 he missed. I like that our coach looks at KC for far more than just a fill in for French. Yuri Collins for the first 2 games is a solid contributor. Yuri got assigned to chase Sackey and he was a total pest. Sackey probably had Yuri nightmares last night. Collins fearlessly attacked the basket on the offensive end and after several missed shots finally got them to fall. Yuri already has the French and Goodwin attitude and I like that. Yuri must shoot free throws better he looked bad at the line and I do not get it. Jimerson did not shoot well but he played hard and showed once again he is more than a shooter. Jimmy Bell is too timid and needs to put a squeeze on that ball after a rebound with those big arms. He did get his first collegiate basket but he is work in progress and has to get experience because we must have another big. In my opinion our depth at the guard position is the best and deepest in the A10. Zink, David King and Spoon-Balls like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Goodwin was holding back in the preseason. I never took into account how improving his speed could take his game to another level. He's much more adept at creating his own shot this year and shooting well over 50% from 2 point range. If Goodwin's going to play like that it doesn't matter what his free throw percentage is. This is the first-team All-Conference player the preseason forecasts thought he would be last year. SLU_Nick and CBFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 One more thing the student section was almost full again. The young people for 2 games now are in to it and were rewarded with 2 nice wins. I enjoy watching our players going into the student section after the game to celebrate with their peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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