Recruiting - 2023

[thetorch]

7 minutes ago, Cowboy II said:

-is Mayo the combo guard that would fit our bill?

No. He's probably going to prep school.  

[Pistol]

2 new 2023 offers: Brock Harding and Jamyron Keller. Harding has a bio in the Recruiting Lists thread. Keller is a new name to me. I'll have a bio up later and post both here once I do.

[3star_recruit]

4 minutes ago, Pistol said:

2 new 2023 offers: Brock Harding and Jamyron Keller. Harding has a bio in the Recruiting Lists thread. Keller is a new name to me. I'll have a bio up later and post both here once I do.

Harding was only a matter of time.  Illinois second team-all state as a junior.  He can stroke it, he can handle it, he's a plus passer and is a pest on defense.  He just needs to build up his body.

[3star_recruit]

Texas PG Fred Payne finally gets his offer.

 

[Pistol]

Jamyron Keller - PG, 6-2, 195 - Killeen, TX (Ellison) - AAU: Drive Nation (Nike EYBL) - Twitter: @JamyronKeller
Offers: Saint Louis, Wyoming, Wichita State, SMU, Tulsa, Missouri State, Old Dominion, Sam Houston State, Toledo, Texas State, Oral Roberts, Prairie View A&M.

Interest: Loyola-Chicago, Massachusetts, DePaul, Florida State, Clemson, Wake Forest, Illinois, Minnesota, Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Stanford, Colorado, Utah, Houston, Baylor, Oklahoma State, TCU, Kansas State, Colorado State, Boise State, Air Force, Memphis, South Florida, East Carolina, Indiana State, Illinois State, Princeton, Rice, Louisiana Tech, Texas-El Paso, Ohio, IUPUI, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Southeastern Louisiana, Coastal Carolina, Iona, South Dakota, UMBC, Cal State-Northridge, Southern Utah, Montana State, Liberty, North Carolina A&T, New Mexico State, Stephen F. Austin, Texas-Rio Grande Valley, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Incarnate Word.

Latest News: Keller received offers from SLU and Toledo. (4/12/22)

Scouting Report: Keller is a tough, competitive guard who impacts the game at both ends. He's a smart defender who understands how to guard the ball and in space. He's strong getting to the rim and consistent as a perimeter and FT shooter. He's a natural leader as a point guard and makes plays for his teammates.

[Pistol]

Harding and Payne were easy updates because I got to both of them in the interest list 6 days ago. These reflect any updates since then, namely the new SLU offers:

Brock Harding - PG, 6-0, 155 - Moline, IL (Moline) - AAU: MidPro Academy (Adidas) - Twitter: @hardingbrock2
Offers: Saint Louis, Loyola-Chicago, Colorado State, Drake, SIU-Carbondale, Bradley, Illinois State, Illinois-Chicago, Southeast Missouri, Eastern Illinois, Purdue Fort Wayne, Appalachian State, Western Illinois, Radford.

Interest: Dayton, Xavier, Marquette, Butler, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Utah, Oregon State, Iowa State, Boise State, Colorado State, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulsa, Belmont, Indiana State, Evansville, Yale, Princeton, Cornell, Brown, Rice, Marshall, Toledo, Akron, Miami-Ohio, Milwaukee, Green Bay, Robert Morris, Northern Illinois, Youngstown State, SIU-Edwardsville, James Madison, Drexel, Louisiana-Monroe, Wofford, VMI, South Dakota State, North Dakota, South Dakota, Omaha, Montana State, Mount St. Mary's, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Lipscomb, Bellarmine, Liberty, Howard.

Latest News: Harding received an offer from SLU. (4/12/22)

Scouting Report: Harding is a small but very smart, poised, athletic lead guard with incredible instincts. He's an excellent passer with outstanding vision and feel, creates shots for himself and others, and defends the point. He's a good three point shooter. He's smooth, quick, and crafty. His older brother plays baseball at Illinois.

 

Fred Payne - PG, 6-2, 160 - Grambling, LA (Legacy School of Sport Sciences, TX) - AAU: LivOn-Fleur de Lis (Nike EYBL) - Twitter: @SniperPayne5
Offers: Saint Louis, Boston College, Houston, Tulane, North Texas, Louisiana, New Orleans, Grambling State.

Interest: Dayton, Loyola-Chicago, St. John's, Illinois, Minnesota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas A&M, Texas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Vanderbilt, Oregon, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Colorado State, Boise State, Wyoming, Santa Clara, Pacific, SMU, Tulsa, Belmont, SIU-Carbondale, Missouri State, Princeton, Rice, Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss, Buffalo, Illinois-Chicago, Samford, Mercer, Georgia State, Coastal Carolina, Southeastern Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, South Alabama, Georgia Southern, Hofstra, Iona, South Dakota, Oral Roberts, UMBC, Cal State-Northridge, Stetson, Liberty, Nicholls State, McNeese State, Sam Houston State, Texas-Rio Grande Valley, Dixie State, Northwestern State, Howard, Texas Southern, Prairie View A&M, Alcorn State, Bethune-Cookman.

Latest News: Payne received an offer from SLU. (4/12/22)

Scouting Report: Payne is a strong, athletic, explosive lefty combo guard. He handles it well, changes direction, and has a quick burst. He scores on three levels. He's very effective getting into the lane and kicking it out to teammates - he's an excellent passer. He has great vision and a natural feel for the game. Rankings: 247Sports Composite - 179.

[Pistol]

 

[Pistol]

Here's the latest offer (I think - trying to keep up):

Mouhamed Dioubate - F, 6-7, 215 - Queens, NY (Putnam Science Academy, CT) - AAU: PSA Cardinals (Nike EYBL) - Twitter: @MoDioubate
Offers: Saint Louis, VCU, Rhode Island, Duquesne, George Washington, La Salle, St. John's, Saint Peter's, Siena, Bryant.

Interest: St. Bonaventure, Connecticut, Providence, Xavier, Seton Hall, DePaul, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, Maryland, Northwestern, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Houston, Boise State, South Florida, Saint Mary's, Yale, Columbia, Brown, Northern Illinois, IUPUI, UNC-Wilmington, Louisiana, Holy Cross, Northeastern, Towson, Iona, Quinnipiac, Albany, UMBC, Florida Gulf Coast, Seattle, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Loyola-Maryland, Howard, South Carolina State.

Latest News: Dioubate received an offer from SLU. (4/13/22)

Scouting Report: Dioubate is a well rounded combo forward who rebounds everything at both ends. He's a double-double machine. He has good handles, vision, and playmaking ability. He's a lefty but finishes strong with both hands. He has a solid mid-range jumper that he's working to extend. He's a hard worker that his HS coach described as low-maintenance, high-production. He reclassified from the 2022 to the 2023 class and transferred from John Bowne HS in Queens to Putnam in CT after his sophomore year.

[gobillsgo]

15 minutes ago, Pistol said:

Here's the latest offer (I think - trying to keep up):

Mouhamed Dioubate - F, 6-7, 215 - Queens, NY (Putnam Science Academy, CT) - AAU: PSA Cardinals (Nike EYBL) - Twitter: @MoDioubate
Offers: Saint Louis, VCU, Rhode Island, Duquesne, George Washington, La Salle, St. John's, Saint Peter's, Siena, Bryant.

Interest: St. Bonaventure, Connecticut, Providence, Xavier, Seton Hall, DePaul, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, Ohio State, Maryland, Northwestern, Texas A&M, Vanderbilt, Houston, Boise State, South Florida, Saint Mary's, Yale, Columbia, Brown, Northern Illinois, IUPUI, UNC-Wilmington, Louisiana, Holy Cross, Northeastern, Towson, Iona, Quinnipiac, Albany, UMBC, Florida Gulf Coast, Seattle, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Loyola-Maryland, Howard, South Carolina State.

Latest News: Dioubate received an offer from SLU. (4/13/22)

Scouting Report: Dioubate is a well rounded combo forward who rebounds everything at both ends. He's a double-double machine. He has good handles, vision, and playmaking ability. He's a lefty but finishes strong with both hands. He has a solid mid-range jumper that he's working to extend. He's a hard worker that his HS coach described as low-maintenance, high-production. He reclassified from the 2022 to the 2023 class and transferred from John Bowne HS in Queens to Putnam in CT after his sophomore year.

So he profiles like French basically?  Same AAU team even.  For those who would say French didn’t have an outside shot, I’d tell you to go back and watch his HS highlights. He shot jumpers, handled the ball, etc. 

[Pistol]

3 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:

So he profiles like French basically?  Same AAU team even.  For those who would say French didn’t have an outside shot, I’d tell you to go back and watch his HS highlights. He shot jumpers, handled the ball, etc. 

I wouldn't say that. French was a true at-the-basket big man, could play the 4 or 5 but probably a little short at either position. Dioubate has developed more as a SF/PF hybrid and guards the 3 a lot. He's more of a slasher in terms of his offense. Good mid-range jumper and he's trying to develop as a perimeter shooter, too. But he led the EYBL in rebounding this weekend, which I think caught some people off guard.

He doesn't have a ton of offers and he got offers from all the A10 schools that had coaching changes, so I think the timing here is key. No matter what happens to his stock this summer, it's going to feel like SLU was on him early.

[billiken_roy]

how much did french weigh as a freshman?   i dont know but he seems like he was always built like an nfl tight end and at 6'6" i doubt he weighed under 225.

[Pistol]

7 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

how much did french weigh as a freshman?   i dont know but he seems like he was always built like an nfl tight end and at 6'6" i doubt he weighed under 225.

He was already listed at 225 back in 2016. Has never really needed to add or subtract much weight.

[Aquinas]

I thought there was a European big who was expected to sign in early April?

[kmbilliken]

8 hours ago, gobillsgo said:

So he profiles like French basically?  Same AAU team even.  For those who would say French didn’t have an outside shot, I’d tell you to go back and watch his HS highlights. He shot jumpers, handled the ball, etc. 

What happened to his outside shot? He didn’t have one here.

[cheeseman]

3 hours ago, Aquinas said:

I thought there was a European big who was expected to sign in early April?

Ask Frank C about that I think he was the one who broke that news.  

[gobillsgo]

14 hours ago, kmbilliken said:

What happened to his outside shot? He didn’t have one here.

That’s what I’m saying. His HS highlights looked like a totally different player. He probably had a green light to do whatever he wanted there, which obviously wasn’t gonna fly here. 

[wgstl]

34 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:

That’s what I’m saying. His HS highlights looked like a totally different player. He probably had a green light to do whatever he wanted there, which obviously wasn’t gonna fly here. 

we're talking about the same guy who apparently shoots 80% from FT's outside of games.  

[gobillsgo]

1 hour ago, wgstl said:

we're talking about the same guy who apparently shoots 80% from FT's outside of games.  

Yeah I’m not sure even the most gullible fan ever believed that one 

[SLURadioBoy]

 

[dlarry]

We should change the title of this thread. It should be called “free agency 2023.” 

Offers and commitments don’t matter anymore it’s all about the cash. 
why would any of these kids commit to a school unless they are getting paid? 
 

 

[HoosierPal]

5 minutes ago, dlarry said:

We should change the title of this thread. It should be called “free agency 2023.” 

Offers and commitments don’t matter anymore it’s all about the cash. 
why would any of these kids commit to a school unless they are getting paid? 
 

 

Should SLU Basketball Incorporate or operate as an LLC? 

Saint Louis Billiken Basketball, Inc.   or

Saint Louis Billiken Basketball, LLC

Which has the better tax implications for it's "employees"?  Can the 'employees' unionize easier one way or the other?

Best be ahead of the curve.  It's all heading this way.

[AnkielBreakers]

28 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

Should SLU Basketball Incorporate or operate as an LLC? 

Saint Louis Billiken Basketball, Inc.   or

Saint Louis Billiken Basketball, LLC

Which has the better tax implications for it's "employees"?  Can the 'employees' unionize easier one way or the other?

Best be ahead of the curve.  It's all heading this way.

The best approach, for tax implications, is that we establish it as a separate church, and the players become masters of ceremony.

[almaman]

25 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said:

The best approach, for tax implications, is that we establish it as a separate church, and the players become masters of ceremony.

be careful with the cool-aid

[GOSLU68]

On 4/13/2022 at 6:05 PM, kmbilliken said:

What happened to his outside shot? He didn’t have one here.

 

14 minutes ago, almaman said:

be careful with the cool-aid

 

On 4/13/2022 at 6:05 PM, kmbilliken said:

What happened to his outside shot? He didn’t have one here.

Hasahn French’s most important asset was how fast he could jump for a rebound and if missed shot jump again quicker th anyone else on court. I hope we never have free throw shooter like him again; Goodwin finally, got a little better on free throws his final year

[Pistol]

On 9/20/2019 at 9:22 AM, Pistol said:

 

I believe this was SLU's first offer in the 2023 class, although I'm not sure how much we've been involved with him since the initial offer. Trevor Smith just committed to Richmond.