MusicCityBilliken Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Okay, we are in the 'dog days'. Noticed the last action on this board was hours ago. Attached is a list of the top 50 coaches and it goes back to the turn of the previous century. Some I don't agree with. One Saint Louis coach was mentioned. Before looking at the list, anyone care to guess? Hints: not someone who stood out. Also, you will have to be a big time Saint Louis basketball historian to know this. https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/greatest-college-basketball-coaches-ab3764285711414e?utm_campaign=basketballcoaches-da555be5c09f45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 That list is based on winning percentage only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, tarheelbilliken said: Okay, we are in the 'dog days'. Noticed the last action on this board was hours ago. Attached is a list of the top 50 coaches and it goes back to the turn of the previous century. Some I don't agree with. One Saint Louis coach was mentioned. Before looking at the list, anyone care to guess? Hints: not someone who stood out. Also, you will have to be a big time Saint Louis basketball historian to know this. https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/greatest-college-basketball-coaches-ab3764285711414e?utm_campaign=basketballcoaches-da555be5c09f45 Winning percentage only elevates Mark Few, and devalues Tom Izzo. But interesting list thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Good read. Lots of memorable coaches. Not sure what Rick's winning % was, but thought he'd make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted July 27, 2019 Author Share Posted July 27, 2019 Yea, they list Dana Kirk. I thought his indiscretions would have disqualified him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 They also listed Rick Pitino’s NCAA Champioships as 2, but then comment that he forfeited one. I wonder how that effects his winning percentage. Suspect it does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Wooden was the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Coach Pete! brianstl and JMM28 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Take the 12-19 season out and Majerus makes this list. Chalk another one up to the Situation. A couple other coaches with Billiken connections. Everyone knows we we were in talks with Pitino at a couple different times to take over the HC position. He turned us down. Joe B Hall as well was very closet o being the Billikens coach. If we had made that hire our history would be much different. MusicCityBilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, thetorch said: Take the 12-19 season out and Majerus makes this list. Chalk another one up to the Situation. A couple other coaches with Billiken connections. Everyone knows we we were in talks with Pitino at a couple different times to take over the HC position. He turned us down. Joe B Hall as well was very closet o being the Billikens coach. If we had made that hire our history would be much different. I think Joe B actually accepted. Then Rupp promised him the UK job when he retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I never heard about Pitino. Was talking to friend of mine from N. England, big Celtics fan, and he said the luster is starting to tarnish on Stevens. Next season could be do or done for him. Can you imagine the college offers that would pour in for his services? I could even see Duke gently nudge Coach K into retirement for Stevens taking over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Pitino was contacted in the 80s and while he was with the Celtics after Spoon left as part of that coaching search. Biondi pulled out all the stops on that one, called in every favor and tried to make a big hire but came away with Romar. Stevens will be fine. Ainge I believe is more on the hot seat. His long term plan never came to fruition of acquiring picks and assets to get a superstar. Kyrie was a disaster and some of his other moves, Hayward injuries, Brown and Tatum not progressing enough have hurt his reputation. I think the Celtics will be fine this year and contend for the East with over 50 wins. Kyrie was a cancer, Hayward is back to 100%, Kemba Walker is a top 20 player in the league and Tatum & Brown should blossom without Kyrie there. Celtics get 50 wins and Stevens is a genius again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, thetorch said: Pitino was contacted in the 80s and while he was with the Celtics after Spoon left as part of that coaching search. Biondi pulled out all the stops on that one, called in every favor and tried to make a big hire but came away with Romar. Stevens will be fine. Ainge I believe is more on the hot seat. His long term plan never came to fruition of acquiring picks and assets to get a superstar. Kyrie was a disaster and some of his other moves, Hayward injuries, Brown and Tatum not progressing enough have hurt his reputation. I think the Celtics will be fine this year and contend for the East with over 50 wins. Kyrie was a cancer, Hayward is back to 100%, Kemba Walker is a top 20 player in the league and Tatum & Brown should blossom without Kyrie there. Celtics get 50 wins and Stevens is a genius again. I never knew they were after Pitino back when they hired Romer. The interviews I knew of back then was Dave Bliss (at the time New Mexico), Kevin Stallings (at the time Ill State) and Mark Gottfried (this might have been a courtesy interview-he just started at Alabama). Wasn't Valvano, when he was still at Iona, considered at one time back in the 70s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 If Ford were to leave, we could get Pitino in a NY minute. Hell, he'd coach Savannah St to get back into coaching D1 hoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Valvano was considered, but he was viewed as too much a salesman. He did have that brash east coast personality that some flyover folks don’t understand, and he talked a mile a minute. he had success at Iona with Ruland, and he wanted to bump up into a higher profile. Outside of Larry Albus and Cheryl Levick, SLU has never had a barn burner of an AD who was basketball centric, had the full support of the administration, and had a budget that drove achievement. We had such a stellar run with Randy Albrecht, Ron Coleman, and Ron Ekker, we would have been better off with an appliance salesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, slu72 said: I think Joe B actually accepted. Then Rupp promised him the UK job when he retired. This is correct. Hall was coach for a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sheltiedave said: Valvano was considered, but he was viewed as too much a salesman. He did have that brash east coast personality that some flyover folks don’t understand, and he talked a mile a minute. he had success at Iona with Ruland, and he wanted to bump up into a higher profile. Outside of Larry Albus and Cheryl Levick, SLU has never had a barn burner of an AD who was basketball centric, had the full support of the administration, and had a budget that drove achievement. We had such a stellar run with Randy Albrecht, Ron Coleman, and Ron Ekker, we would have been better off with an appliance salesman. Wasn't Coleman a salesman for IBM before taking the HC job? I seem to recall reading that when he was hired. I was living in Ohio at the time and think I read it in the Alumni magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sheltiedave said: Valvano was considered, but he was viewed as too much a salesman. He did have that brash east coast personality that some flyover folks don’t understand, and he talked a mile a minute. he had success at Iona with Ruland, and he wanted to bump up into a higher profile. Outside of Larry Albus and Cheryl Levick, SLU has never had a barn burner of an AD who was basketball centric, had the full support of the administration, and had a budget that drove achievement. We had such a stellar run with Randy Albrecht, Ron Coleman, and Ron Ekker, we would have been better off with an appliance salesman. If we hire local appliance guy will we be able to play on Sundays? White Pelican and dlarry like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Sheltiedave said: Valvano was considered, but he was viewed as too much a salesman. He did have that brash east coast personality that some flyover folks don’t understand, and he talked a mile a minute. he had success at Iona with Ruland, and he wanted to bump up into a higher profile. Outside of Larry Albus and Cheryl Levick, SLU has never had a barn burner of an AD who was basketball centric, had the full support of the administration, and had a budget that drove achievement. We had such a stellar run with Randy Albrecht, Ron Coleman, and Ron Ekker, we would have been better off with an appliance salesman. Debbie Yow brought us out of the dark ages. SLU_Lax likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, willie said: Debbie Yow brought us out of the dark ages. the way yow treated grawer was deplorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Yes, sorry I couldn’t remember Yow. Was it Yow or Biondi that screwed Grawer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Sheltiedave said: Yes, sorry I couldn’t remember Yow. Was it Yow or Biondi that screwed Grawer? Biondi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Probably both. Doubt yow lost any sleep over the biondi "suggestion". While i recognize yow definitelty was in charge of a time the program started moving forward. She also headed up a season tix seating realignment that displeased a few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Probably both. Doubt yow lost any sleep over the biondi "suggestion". While i recognize yow definitelty was in charge of a time the program started moving forward. She also headed up a season tix seating realignment that displeased a few people. i remember getting shafted on the season ticket deal, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: Probably both. Doubt yow lost any sleep over the biondi "suggestion". While i recognize yow definitelty was in charge of a time the program started moving forward. She also headed up a season tix seating realignment that displeased a few people. I’m just barely too young to remember since I went to games with my parents tickets. What was the deal/details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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