3star_recruit Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 13 hours ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: Obi a soph. Powell can create his own shot while isolated. Obi just dunks open looks/ works in an offense but he's not the same playmaker or as good off the dribble as Powell. Different players different positions but Powell has that Kemba take over switch. Shooting percentage is less cause he's taking more difficult shots. Just my opinion and I dont really think there is a right/wrong answer. I'd agree obi is a better pro prospect. It sounds like your base assumption is that shooting guards are more valuable than power forwards. Which if you're comparing two elite players, I would agree with. But this year, Powell was too up and down to merit the elite label. Toppin was great all year. That gives him the slight edge as the more impactful college player, IMO. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 14 hours ago, NH said: I’m not saying I agree with the original post, but you can’t just say that Toppin is a better shooter because his % is better. That’s an unfair application of the data. If you needed a 3 to win the game, you’d much rather have Powell taking it than Toppin. If i’m down 2 with a chance to win with a 3 i’m taking toppin and pretty much guaranteeing OT as would any good coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 14 hours ago, wgstl said: Farrrrrrrrr less attempts. I can’t compare Yes you can can compare it’s very easy. 39% vs 30%. hahah you just don’t want to compare because it hurts your case for powell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, glazedandconfused said: Yes you can can compare it’s very easy. 39% vs 30%. hahah you just don’t want to compare because it hurts your case for powell That was never my case hahaha*. Hes a pg. too me, a pg is more important. You'll die on a mountain of proving a case that is subjective hahahaha*. You've always been that way on this board. Ive also noted that day in and day out Powell had to go up against much more talent than Obi did due to SOS and pure talent hahaha*. * - sign of a bad argument. Littlebill and RiseOfTheBillikens like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, wgstl said: That was never my case hahaha*. Hes a pg. too me, a pg is more important. You'll die on a mountain of proving a case that is subjective hahahaha*. You've always been that way on this board. Ive also noted that day in and day out Powell had to go up against much more talent than Obi did due to SOS and pure talent hahaha*. * - sign of a bad argument. amazing if true, wonder why in the last 30 years the overall number one draft pick has been a point guard only 5 times? obviously these nba guys dont know what they are doing. willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: amazing if true, wonder why in the last 30 years the overall number one draft pick has been a point guard only 5 times? obviously these nba guys dont know what they are doing. you have a really odd obsession with the NBA when talking about college kids and college careers. it's kinda, weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, wgstl said: you have a really odd obsession with the NBA when talking about college kids and college careers. it's kinda, weird. no weirder than your belief a kyrie irving wannabe is a better go to player than this years best college basketball player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, billiken_roy said: no weirder than your belief a kyrie irving wannabe is a better go to player than this years best college basketball player. Hes a top 5 finalist!!!!!!! This is incredibly ridiculous. You're acting like Im making a case that Sean East is the best player in college. Or for your sake, a lets see, miles bridges or kentavious caldwell pope Littlebill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, wgstl said: Hes a top 5 finalist!!!!!!! This is incredibly ridiculous. You're acting like Im making a case that Sean East is the best player in college. Or for your sake, a lets see, miles bridges or kentavious caldwell pope somebody has to be in the top 5. doesnt mean he is even close to obi in ability and overall greatness. he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSluBills Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, glazedandconfused said: If i’m down 2 with a chance to win with a 3 i’m taking toppin and pretty much guaranteeing OT as would any good coach Even if said person taking the 3 needs to create their own shot? If that's the case I'm taking Powell 100/100 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: somebody has to be in the top 5. doesnt mean he is even close to obi in ability and overall greatness. he's not. i hope he sees this bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Littlebill said: i hope he sees this bro you think powell will get mad that someone says obi is a better player? ha. i think powell will say, "hell yes obi is a better player. he's better than everyone this year." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, wgstl said: That was never my case hahaha*. Hes a pg. too me, a pg is more important. You'll die on a mountain of proving a case that is subjective hahahaha*. You've always been that way on this board. Ive also noted that day in and day out Powell had to go up against much more talent than Obi did due to SOS and pure talent hahaha*. * - sign of a bad argument. Myles powell is a PG? MP is a shooting guard/off ball guard. Quincy Mcknight plays about 31 MPG as their point guard. Powell averages less than 1 assist more per game than Toppin. Obviously Toppin hasn't played as much consistent talent as powell but let's see his #s vs decent Power conference teams: Toppin vs Kansas 6/11 from field for 18 points 9 reb 3 blks vs Va Tech 10/14 from field for 24 pts 8 reb vs Georgia 9/11 from field for 25 pts 4 reb Powell has 1 (!) game all year where he shot better than 50% from the field (St. Johns) and 1 game since November where he was super hot from 3 (Greater than 40%...also the St. Johns game) In reality, Powell just wasn't a very efficient shooter this year. So if by deadly you guys mean has the best chance at killing your hope for a top 2 seed in the NCAA tournament then I agree...Powell is a more deadly player. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: you think powell will get mad that someone says obi is a better player? ha. i think powell will say, "hell yes obi is a better player. he's better than everyone this year." It is a pretty widely used meme at the moment. Millennials, am i right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Well Kansas finished number 1 in AP poll. Will their mythical number 1 finish be vacated in a few years just like if they were to win the real title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 hours ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: I was more impressed w/ Daly than Powell, but.... I was more impressed by JGood than any of them. so ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 So many pages wasted on a pointless Powell vs. Toppin comparison and not one acknowledgement that if college basketball had NBA Jam, they'd be this year's best combo by far. BilliesBy40, RUBillsFan and SLU_Lax like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 BANG He Got It. Thanks to David Pavlakovich for his great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinert310 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: BANG He Got It. Thanks to David Pavlakovich for his great work. Ummmm...HOLY CRAP!!!! If we can get everyone healthy next year, and we’re running French, J-Good, Yuri, Perk, Locomotive, TJ, Jacobs, Gibson, and Thatch, plus Strickland and the Big Swede (and I still think Diarra might end up being a player), how do you guard us next year? Seriously? You can’t just pack it in. But if you try to shadow our snipers, J-Good and Has and Locomotive will eat you alive inside. And we’re such an elite offensive rebounding team, we’re gonna get tons of 2nd chance opportunities. I’m not embarrassed to say that I have a half-chub just picturing it my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 So good seeing Jimmmmmmmerson’s makes again. Next year will be special. I was impressed how many times a 3 was our first made basket of a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 10:38 AM, wgstl said: Pretty cool we got to see 2 of the top 5 players at our place this year I'd love to Ford get a two year deal with Iowa set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 JAM TIME! Great work by David Pavlakovich RiseOfTheBillikens and AGB91 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 I forgot how well Jacobs can get off of the floor. Awesome video! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 JBJ off the ground is a mirror of our saying team plays to the level of our competition. He only goes as high as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Gotta love the werewolf intro... Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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