cheeseman Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, BIG BILL FAN said: Your post makes no sense, but whatever. How could anyone argue that winning doesn’t help your recruiting! All I did was point out what Weber experienced. Sorry if you have trouble following the line of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, cheeseman said: All I did was point out what Weber experienced. Sorry if you have trouble following the line of thought. N=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 An uptick in recruiting may be wishful thinking or a reality we won't know for awhile.. but is not an unreasonable opinion . I don't think so anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Not to rain on this "big uptick in recruiting high" I remember when Weber was at IL and he went to the Final 4 everyone said that this was going to make his recruiting of the top players so much easier. Weber later said that kids have already made their minds up by the time they are juniors and that unless you are on their list to start with it would not help much. He said he expected a 2 year lag before the recruiting really benefited from their run. He apparently was right because he was let go 3 years ( I think) later. I agree this run doesn't hurt us but the best we can hope for realistically is it moves the needle for those who we are already in the hunt. It's the guys that are really close that need a shove that drop into our laps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, cheeseman said: All I did was point out what Weber experienced. Sorry if you have trouble following the line of thought. My take is y u b doing that? no one @ a parade is seeking rainers and I think that goes for here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechee89 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We outscored our opponents in the second half, 144-91. Holding them to just under 23 per game. Terrific defense. Amazing coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Not to rain on this "big uptick in recruiting high" I remember when Weber was at IL and he went to the Final 4 everyone said that this was going to make his recruiting of the top players so much easier. Weber later said that kids have already made their minds up by the time they are juniors and that unless you are on their list to start with it would not help much. He said he expected a 2 year lag before the recruiting really benefited from their run. He apparently was right because he was let go 3 years ( I think) later. I agree this run doesn't hurt us but the best we can hope for realistically is it moves the needle for those who we are already in the hunt. I agree that big uptick is overstating the impact. Where I think it can help is getting out-of state guys we're already recruiting to take us more seriously. It's hard to pull even a 3 star guard from the East Coast without a national profile. Keep making tournaments and that will change. This is a huge step, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Would someone please go to the main Oklahoma State board and start a new thread on how “You guys were right, that Coach Ford can only recruit, he can’t coach.” Then screen shot the responses and post them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 In the last 50 years (aka since the rise to preeminence of the NCAA Tournament), how many SLU coaches have led THEIR OWN team to the NCAA tournament? Two until today - Spoonhour and Majerus. Mad love to Coach Ford for joining an elite group and putting our dancing shoes back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, mechee89 said: We outscored our opponents in the second half, 144-91. Holding them to just under 23 per game. Terrific defense. Amazing coaching. 15 and 19 in the 2nd half the last 2 games. The Bonnies 19 points in the final 23:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, cheeseman said: Not to rain on this "big uptick in recruiting high" I remember when Weber was at IL and he went to the Final 4 everyone said that this was going to make his recruiting of the top players so much easier. Weber later said that kids have already made their minds up by the time they are juniors and that unless you are on their list to start with it would not help much. He said he expected a 2 year lag before the recruiting really benefited from their run. He apparently was right because he was let go 3 years ( I think) later. I agree this run doesn't hurt us but the best we can hope for realistically is it moves the needle for those who we are already in the hunt. I get your point and I think recruits that have been recently offered for 2019 are the ones that might take notice. Carpenter is one recruit that comes to mind that I hope if he is considering us would like what he saw, if watching, on National TV. The hometown 2020 recruits will get to see a lot of Billiken coverage on TV and this is something Weber could not benefit from, the metro area produces many good players. Wow, what a great day today and most of the fans believe anything good can happen now and that is a great thing enjoy the big dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Pulling that win out of the fire in front of a national audience was beautiful. Then having the Billiken logo popping up over and over again for everyone in the country to see, especially recruits is exposure you cant afford to buy. Somebody in the A10 deserves credit for staging the final there. Ford deserves credit for beatung the odds and getting the win. He has assembeled Team Blue and they are tough. Today the basketball world met the Billiken Bruisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, Compton said: In the last 50 years (aka since the rise to preeminence of the NCAA Tournament), how many SLU coaches have led THEIR OWN team to the NCAA tournament? Two until today - Spoonhour and Majerus. Mad love to Coach Ford for joining an elite group and putting our dancing shoes back on. Your discounting the Welmer minute? LindellWest and Compton like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This...is Steven Koren Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I took an 8 year break from Billikens.com, but I’m back baby! I think @joe_davola viewed my profile every day over the last 8 years while I was away. What a psycho. Anyway, the Bills are dancin! Great effort today. joe_davola and Littlebill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Compton said: In the last 50 years (aka since the rise to preeminence of the NCAA Tournament), how many SLU coaches have led THEIR OWN team to the NCAA tournament? Two until today - Spoonhour and Majerus. Mad love to Coach Ford for joining an elite group and putting our dancing shoes back on. Spoon had grawer recruits iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 ">Looking to the future, this is such a perfect year for SLU to get to the NCAA Tournament. There’s a lot of really good 2020 recruits in the St Louis area who are gonna see their hometown team in the Tournament. That’s huge</p>— Jack Godar (@JackGodar HenryB and dennis_w like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 That was an absolutely brilliant coaching performance by Coach Travis Ford, throughout the A10 Tournament, from lowly Richmond and the travesty of the officiating in that first game, to rival Dayton, to a brilliant game plan against Davidson, to today's glorious A10 Championship Victory over the dreaded Bonnies. Needing to get as much in game rest in the players as possible for these Magnificent 7 (in the Davidson game 6) to play and win 4 games in 4 days, today against the Bonnies Ford came out in the zone in the first half. But in that second half the Billikens returned to vintage St. Louis U man to man defense and rattled the Bonnies big time. Ford's bench coaching in this series was at Maestro Majerus level. Bravo Travis, and hearty Congratulations on a job well done. The Billikens fought their hearts out in Brooklyn and greatly deserve to be 2019 A10 Champions. Bravo Billikens. We have 2 proud SLU alumni about to board our flight at JFK homeward bound to SFO. The Billikens are dancing in our backyard in San Jose. Bring on the Hokies, as the Billikens begin the march to the Sweet 16. dennis_w, Adman and slubilliken09 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 hours ago, dennis_w said: An uptick in recruiting may be wishful thinking or a reality we won't know for awhile.. but is not an unreasonable opinion . I don't think so anyway Could help seal the deal with some SLU is already recruiting ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, dennis_w said: Spoon had grawer recruits iirc Certainly not in '97-98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Compton said: Certainly not in '97-98. U r right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachSBU Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 'Just wanted to come to your message board and say congrats on your victory over my alma mater today and your invitation to the Big Dance!! You guys overcame a lot of adversity this year and a lot of bad luck against us in the past to exert the best defense of the day against us and earn your victory!! Coach Ford did a great job of keeping your players' heads in the game and the players were masterful at executing the second half plan. They didn't allow themselves to get rattled and knew just what to do on offense taking it inside to take advantage of our big man in foul trouble and our lack of depth there. Your team's defense on the other side was so stifling I was afraid we might not even hit double digit scoring as a TEAM in the 2nd half at times!!! Good luck in the tourney and hopefully we BOTH continue to get better as the future goes on!!! Go Atlantic 10!!! slufanskip, Billnation08, NH and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Thank you CoachSBU, appreciate your thoughts and congratulations. All the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, dennis_w said: Spoon had grawer recruits iirc not on the Hughes team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 hours ago, CoachSBU said: 'Just wanted to come to your message board and say congrats on your victory over my alma mater today and your invitation to the Big Dance!! You guys overcame a lot of adversity this year and a lot of bad luck against us in the past to exert the best defense of the day against us and earn your victory!! Coach Ford did a great job of keeping your players' heads in the game and the players were masterful at executing the second half plan. They didn't allow themselves to get rattled and knew just what to do on offense taking it inside to take advantage of our big man in foul trouble and our lack of depth there. Your team's defense on the other side was so stifling I was afraid we might not even hit double digit scoring as a TEAM in the 2nd half at times!!! Good luck in the tourney and hopefully we BOTH continue to get better as the future goes on!!! Go Atlantic 10!!! Thank you for your classy post. It was great meeting all the Bonnie fans in Brooklyn. Good luck to the Bonnies. You are our brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstCallIveEverSeen Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Man I sure miss Spoon, and Rammer with his H-bomb calls (and he certainly took HIS guys there)...that being said, Travis has been masterful over the past few games, and this win has to help in recruiting despite what some people believe. It may be next year, it could be a transfer, it could be a 15 year old we don't know about yet, but the exposure and success of a program is nothing but a win. I doubt there is a Paul O'Liney sitting at home on the couch and saw this game and makes a decision to come to SLU, but you never know what the benefits of this win and trip to the dance will do for the program. Martin is a decent coach at Mizzou, and hopefully Brad Underwood can turn things around for Illinois, but with both Illinois and Missouri both fighting for many of the same kids that SLU is, this can't hurt! I mean wouldn't you want a coach who is animated on the sidelines and decides to take a leap into a pile of humanity in celebration of the biggest win in years?? Think how loud home games could be next season! I remember the days when we were 7th in the nation in attendance under Spoon! Zink and BIG BILL FAN like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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