wgstl Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 i don’t, but why wouldn’t it be? It’s probably not a big deal, I’m just trying to be old school about it as if they should be pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 3star_recruit said: I wasn't expecting anything in this game so I'm not disappointed. You're going to need a healthier team than we have to win in Olean or the conference tournament. The Illinois and Missouri high school playoffs are the best basketball you will see from a local team this month. I am diasappointed, not a happy alumnus (x2), especially after SLU led by 8 at halftime. SLU, as an institution, with its $1.23B endowment and 12,649 enrollment, should not lose to St. Bonaventure with its $60M endowment and enrollment of 2,100. Yet, SLU has now lost 9 straight to St. Bona, which is flat out unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, wgstl said: Kinda weird to me the team was all so happy and relaxed in the locker room after the game End of a long frustrating season in sight. Or hey 3 Ws or 4 not a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bonner89 said: Yet another year when Ford doesn't play his best players in a big game. Give me a great COACH over a recruiter any time. Wha?! That was an idiotic statement. Do us a favor and put a sledgehammer through your monitor and keyboard. Then put them back together and do it again. TheA_Bomb likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Wha?! That was an idiotic statement. Do us a favor and put a sledgehammer through your monitor and keyboard. Then put them back together and do it again. No, he’s right. No reason to not start and play Courtney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: I am diasappointed, not a happy alumnus (x2), especially after SLU led by 8 at halftime. SLU, as an institution, with its $1.23B endowment and 12,649 enrollment, should not lose to St. Bonaventure with its $60M endowment and enrollment of 2,100. Yet, SLU has now lost 9 straight to St. Bona, which is flat out unacceptable. Endowments have nothing to do with what happens in athletics contests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: I am diasappointed, not a happy alumnus (x2), especially after SLU led by 8 at halftime. SLU, as an institution, with its $1.23B endowment and 12,649 enrollment, should not lose to St. Bonaventure with its $60M endowment and enrollment of 2,100. Yet, SLU has now lost 9 straight to St. Bona, which is flat out unacceptable. Then Harvard should be the best basketball team in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, wgstl said: No, he’s right. No reason to not start and play Courtney Oooo kill em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Then Harvard should be the best basketball team in the country. Apples and oranges; In a word, No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Endowments have nothing to do with what happens in athletics contests. Oh yes endowments do. They show the power and money behind a university. The University must show the full commitment to having a winning program. St. Bona beating St. Louis U NINE (9) STRAIGHT TIMES, is akin to an ant beating an elephant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Bay Area Billiken said: Oh yes endowments do. They show the power and money behind a university. The University must show the full commitment to having a winning program. Nah. Athletics funding and a school's endowment are entirely separate. I doubt there's any strong correlation. You'd be better off examining the athletics department budget than the school's endowment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Nah. Athletics funding and a school's endowment are entirely separate. I doubt there's any strong correlation. You'd be better off examining the athletics department budget than the school's endowment. They are not separate issues. SLU has 20.5 times more money in its coffers than does St. Bona. When will the ignoring of the big elephant in the middle of the room end? It's well past time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: They are not separate issues. SLU has 20.5 times more money in its coffers than does St. Bona. When will the ignoring of the big elephant in the middle of the room end? It's well past time. What schools do you see that dip into their endowment to improve their athletics programs from year to year? That's not what the endowment is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: What schools do you see that dip into their endowment to improve their athletics programs from year to year? That's not what the endowment is for. Where did you read me saying anything about dipping into endowment? You didn't read me saying that because I didn't say it. But the endowment shows the money and power behind the school. If St. Louis U wants to have a High Major, Non-Football, Division 1 Men's Basketball program, then it needs to give the full commitment to having one. While SLU has made a commitment, it invariably shoots itself in the foot. See Craig Upchurch fiasco, Situation 1, Situation 2. The ultimate reason the current SLU team has no depth and struggles against zone defenses is still due to the fallout from Situation 2. Situation 1 caused SLU a likely NCAA bid in '11 and may have indirectly led to the Big East picking Creighton over SLU. Situation 2 likely cost SLU an NCAA bid last season, and is about to cause another lost NCAA bid this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: Where did you read me saying anything about dipping into endowment? You didn't read me saying that because I didn't say it. But the endowment shows the money and power behind the school. If St. Louis U wants to have a High Major, Non-Football, Division 1 Men's Basketball program, then it needs to give the full commitment to having one. While SLU has made a commitment, it invariably shoots itself in the foot. See Craig Upchurch fiasco, Situation 1, Situation 2. The ultimate reason the current SLU team has no depth and struggles against zone defenses is still due to the fallout from Situation 2. I'm not arguing that SLU doesn't need to make a financial commitment to being big time in athletics. I'm arguing that comparing schools' endowments is irrelevant. You discussed some obstacles: what does the depth of the school's endowment have to do with any of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Oh brother the game day loss hostility is back in full force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Well that was a bummer. Bess and Goodwin are both having a hard time putting the ball in the hole recently. I wonder if Goodwin is gimpy too? No Field goals from the bench. You can’t win like that. French needs to get more shots. 7-10 from the field. He should have had at least another 5 field goal attempts. Nice game by Isabell. 21/12/6, 5 turnovers but I think he is seeing the struggles and trying to do to much. I’ll take that line every night. Over all not unexpected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, MattyMo213 said: Oh brother the game day loss hostility is back in full force Hostility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: I'm not arguing that SLU doesn't need to make a financial commitment to being big time in athletics. I'm arguing that comparing schools' endowments is irrelevant. You discussed some obstacles: what does the depth of the school's endowment have to do with any of that? The depth of a school's endowment shows both what should be happening and the potential of a school. We can argue until the cows come home and beyond, but St. Louis U should not be losing 9 straight games to St. Bonaventure, period. That point is indisputable. SLU's financial commitment to the Men's Basketball Program is not the issue, and has not been the issue for some time. SLU has made a financial commitment. The issue that has derailed last season and this season is Situation 2 and the response thereto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Coach314 said: Excels in the open court. JGood is better on the wing on the break. Run. Run. Run next year Hope so. Thought we would see more of that this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 55 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: The depth of a school's endowment shows both what should be happening and the potential of a school. We can argue to the cows come home and beyond, but St. Louis U should not be losing 9 straight games to St. Bonaventure, period. That point is indisputable. SLU's financial commitment to the Men's Basketball Program is not the issue, and has not been the issue for some time. SLU has made a financial commitment. The issue that has derailed last season and this season is Situation 2 and the response thereto. I usually appreciate your posts and point of view but I'm not feeling you on this one..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: I usually appreciate your posts and point of view but I'm not feeling you on this one..... Let me put this another way: St. Louis U is a much bigger and more influential university than St. Bonaventure and should not be losing to St. Bona 9 straight times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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davidnark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 26% from 3; 59% from the line. Basketball is more and more a game of outside shooting, and it is our weakest attribute. The problem and solution are apparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, davidnark said: 26% from 3; 59% from the line. Basketball is more and more a game of outside shooting, and it is our weakest attribute. The problem and solution are apparent. ... as is the proximate cause thereof ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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