bauman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 What I love about the current 5 man recruiting class is the balance, by position, that TF and the AC's have been able to accomplish. We have a clear #1---YC; a #2/#3 outstanding shooter---GJ; a #3, possible #4 with a few more lbs---TH; a #3/#4 who should be able to step in and serve as an immediate quasi-Bess replacement--- J. Perkins ; and a true #5---J. Bell. Even with no more additions-or losses-here's how we line up next year: #1 JGood, Yuri, D. Jacobs #2 Fred T, D. Jacobs, Jimerson, JG #3 Perkins, Hargrove, Hankton, Jimerson, JG #4 Perkins, Hargrove, French #5 French, Bell. That 10 man group looks really good and can only get better with any additions. Young? Yes but very talented. Our biggest problem in the A-10 next year is the fact that so much talent returns. The league should be very strong next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Tennessee just got a 5* big man so Jibbitoh could be looking at us again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Interesting Robert carpenter retweeted Littlebill and Pistol like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Interesting Robert carpenter retweeted Could the 6’6 SF be the next recruit Ford signs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, bauman said: What I love about the current 5 man recruiting class is the balance, by position, that TF and the AC's have been able to accomplish. We have a clear #1---YC; a #2/#3 outstanding shooter---GJ; a #3, possible #4 with a few more lbs---TH; a #3/#4 who should be able to step in and serve as an immediate quasi-Bess replacement--- J. Perkins ; and a true #5---J. Bell. Even with no more additions-or losses-here's how we line up next year: #1 JGood, Yuri, D. Jacobs #2 Fred T, D. Jacobs, Jimerson, JG #3 Perkins, Hargrove, Hankton, Jimerson, JG #4 Perkins, Hargrove, French #5 French, Bell. That 10 man group looks really good and can only get better with any additions. Young? Yes but very talented. Our biggest problem in the A-10 next year is the fact that so much talent returns. The league should be very strong next year. Lot of options. Does sound like Jimmy is a bit of a project. A spot player, maybe? My ideal pickup now would be a combo PF /3, say like Cody or a Wellmer. Still think we need another guy that could come in and stretch the D. That would seem to be Jimerson's teammate. Although, he needs some bulking up. As someone said above A10's not gonna be a walk in the park. Just for grins; I predict at media day we'll be picked to finish no higher than 5th. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Could the 6’6 SF be the next recruit Ford signs? Who would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I guess that would be Rob Carpenter. Missed that in your post. Mea Culpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, slu72 said: Who would that be? Robert Carpenter is on our verbal commits as a 2019 recruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Robert Carpenter is on our verbal commits as a 2019 recruit Hope so, he was offered a couple weeks ago & he got game....2018 summer AAU highlights, including D at the end: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, bauman said: What I love about the current 5 man recruiting class is the balance, by position, that TF and the AC's have been able to accomplish. We have a clear #1---YC; a #2/#3 outstanding shooter---GJ; a #3, possible #4 with a few more lbs---TH; a #3/#4 who should be able to step in and serve as an immediate quasi-Bess replacement--- J. Perkins ; and a true #5---J. Bell. Even with no more additions-or losses-here's how we line up next year: #1 JGood, Yuri, D. Jacobs #2 Fred T, D. Jacobs, Jimerson, JG #3 Perkins, Hargrove, Hankton, Jimerson, JG #4 Perkins, Hargrove, French #5 French, Bell. That 10 man group looks really good and can only get better with any additions. Young? Yes but very talented. Our biggest problem in the A-10 next year is the fact that so much talent returns. The league should be very strong next year. Good summary. Other than Jimmerson, who else can shoot from outside? Perkins? Or is Perkins a scorer - slasher and shooter. Seems like we need more shooters. And 72, I know what you mean but we dont need another injury prone guy - Welmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Clock_Tower said: Good summary. Other than Jimmerson, who else can shoot from outside? Perkins? Or is Perkins a scorer - slasher and shooter. Seems like we need more shooters. And 72, I know what you mean but we dont need another injury prone guy - Welmer Considering Perkins is shooting 42% from 3 and 81% from the line, plus will be the top all-time scorer for SWIC, I’d call him a shooter. cgeldmacher likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: Hope so, he was offered a couple weeks ago & he got game....2018 summer AAU highlights, including D at the end: Let’s see...Matt Carpenter plays for the Cardinals and Jesus was a Carpenter. With all that in common I don’t know how Robert Carpenter can say no to the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: Considering Perkins is shooting 42% from 3 and 81% from the line, plus will be the top all-time scorer for SWIC, I’d call him a shooter. Sounds like a sniper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Jimmy wore #44 in his twitter picture. Was Husak the last #44? Who else wore 44 in Billiken history? Dobbs did right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said: Considering Perkins is shooting 42% from 3 and 81% from the line, plus will be the top all-time scorer for SWIC, I’d call him a shooter. SWIC site says 36.7% from 3 and 79.1% from the line. Still good enough to be the best on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, VeniceMenace said: Hope so, he was offered a couple weeks ago & he got game....2018 summer AAU highlights, including D at the end: This gym is to lighting what the Palumbo Center is to ductwork. moytoy12 and billikenbill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, kmbilliken said: SWIC site says 36.7% from 3 and 79.1% from the line. Still good enough to be the best on our team. The other numbers are from Perkins' freshman year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechee89 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Box and Won said: This gym is to lighting what the Palumbo Center is to ductwork. Lite-Brite was the first thing that came to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 This guy is the player we have needed for YEARS. A true 5 with a ton of size and strength. Just keep him in the weight room and in shape and next year we can run a real lineup out there with French at the 4 and Bell Jr. at the 5. Next year starting 5 should be. 1 Yuri 2 JGood 3 Thatch/Jimmerson 4. French 5. Bell That is a lineup to go to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, mrjoelabs said: This guy is the player we have needed for YEARS. A true 5 with a ton of size and strength. Just keep him in the weight room and in shape and next year we can run a real lineup out there with French at the 4 and Bell Jr. at the 5. Next year starting 5 should be. 1 Yuri 2 JGood 3 Thatch/Jimmerson 4. French 5. Bell That is a lineup to go to work with. Uh no Why would we play 2 5s? Perkins is starting. Not sure yet how much PT Yuri gets. Goodwin Thatch Jimmer Perkins French Zink, Clocktoweraccords2004, Slu let the dogs out? and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, thetorch said: Uh no 12 minutes ago, mrjoelabs said: This guy is the player we have needed for YEARS. A true 5 with a ton of size and strength. Just keep him in the weight room and in shape and next year we can run a real lineup out there with French at the 4 and Bell Jr. at the 5. Next year starting 5 should be. 1 Yuri 2 JGood 3 Thatch/Jimmerson 4. French 5. Bell That is a lineup to go to work Way too early. But Perkins will start. Right now I would go Goodwin, French, Perkins, Thatch, Hargrove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, WVBilliken said: Way too early. But Perkins will start. Right now I would go Goodwin, French, Perkins, Thatch, Hargrove. Keep hearing Jimerson is one of the top 5 shooters in the nation for his class...if that’s the case, he’s starting either st the 2 or 3. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, VeniceMenace said: Keep hearing Jimerson is one of the top 5 shooters in the nation for his class...if that’s the case, he’s starting either st the 2 or 3. Defense? I'll take Thatch at 2 for the defense, rebounding and improved year 2 offense. But plenty of minutes for Jimerson off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 We should hope for a big summer for Jacobs. We could really use another ball handler. Box and Won likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, VeniceMenace said: Considering Perkins is shooting 42% from 3 and 81% from the line, plus will be the top all-time scorer for SWIC, I’d call him a shooter. Venice. A very good scorer is not the same thing as a very good shooter. In fact, I would suggest that the best scorers are not the best shooters. When the best scorer is also the best shooter, then you have something special. Specifically, I am pleased with Perkins becoming a Billiken. And at the end of the day, scoring may be more important than shooting - except that b/c of the existing personnel on our team, we need shooters to stretch the defense or at least to keep them honest. I am not real familiar with Perkins but assume that he gets his points (which admittedly are a lot) from all parts of the floor. Jett was a great Billiken and great scorer but most of his points came from slashing to the basket, and when fouled, from the FT line. Pleased to see that Perkins shoots 81% from the FT line - but again, scoring and FT's does not mean he is shooter. Now, you give a 42% FT percentage -- which admittedly is a very good percentage. With that said, if a guy has a poor 3 point shooting percentage, then we would agree that he is probably not a good shooter. But if he shoots 42%, then I ask -- well based on how many shots? So I looked this up. http://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2017-18/div1/players/javonteperkins5pra Assume this is where you found the 42%. If so, it says he attempted 61 shots over 28 games so that is only 2 such shots per game. And while 26 is a good figure -- that's less than one (1) made 3 pointer per game. And with averages, for every game he shoots 4 from the 3 point line, there is a game where he shoots none. Not saying he cannot shoot a 3 pointer or that he is bad when he does, but is her really a shooter? Will Perkins really stretch a better D` defense or keep A10 defenses honest? Not sure. I ask who is a shooter b/c Yuri appears to be a solid PG but not necessarily a shooter. Goodwin is a scorer but not a shooter. Hargrove appears to be a scorer but not a shooter. Jacobs might be a shooter but he has played so little. Thatch and Hankton are good players -- but so far they are not shooters. French is not a shooter. And yes, we are counting on JImmerson but he is only 1 guy. Perimeter shooting is a big problem this year -- and we will be losing Bess, Wiley and Isabell. If we are looking for more help, how about a shooter? VeniceMenace likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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