dennis_w Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Our boys couldn't have played any harder last night... BillIkenFan_Dan, HenryB, MattyMo213 and 5 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Totally agree. I know this season isn't turning out like we hoped, but think about it this way: Would a fan of a team rather have (A) an ultra talented team that is lazy and under-performs their way to a 17-11 record, or (B) an under talented team that busts their butts every game hustling, rebounding and playing intense defense on their way to a 17-11 record. I'd choose "B" every time. I prefer new recruits coming into an environment like the one Ford has created with this team, than the future of a talented team that has a culture of playing soft. juniorbill76 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Totally agree. I know this season isn't turning out like we hoped, but think about it this way: Would a fan of a team rather have (A) an ultra talented team that is lazy and under-performs their way to a 17-11 record, or (B) an under talented team that busts their butts every game hustling, rebounding and playing intense defense on their way to a 17-11 record. I'd choose "B" every time. I prefer new recruits coming into an environment like the one Ford has created with this team, than the future of a talented team that has a culture of playing soft. I don't think it's a matter of being a less talented team. It's more a lack of depth and injuries that has done us in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I think we're one of the more talented teams in the league. Even hobbled, Bess is a top 10 player in the league, Goodwin and French are top 20 players, Isabell is top 30. That's not a lack of talent. We do almost everything well except shoot. It just so happens that's the most important talent. If we could do that, we would average over 70 ppg. TheA_Bomb likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Bess is a top 1 player in the league, fify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I get the whole midwest mentality "lunch pail" "hard hat" and all that but.... We're not a lil engine that could. SLU has the recruits. Can you think of a better PF\C in the last 5 years than HF? Have we had a better all around player than JB in the last 20 years? He's arguably the best. How many JG quality guys have we had? Not many. We also had a top 40 recruit for half the season. We've not seen this level of talent at SLU in many years. We're under achieving. Yeah some are injuries and some are victim of circumstance but overall it's under achieving. Do they play hard? Yes. I like that and appreciate it more than a team that doesn't. Bizziken, brianstl and St. Lunatic like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: I get the whole midwest mentality "lunch pail" "hard hat" and all that but.... We're not a lil engine that could. SLU has the recruits. Can you think of a better PF\C in the last 5 years than HF? Have we had a better all around player than JB in the last 20 years? He's arguably the best. How many JG quality guys have we had? Not many. We also had a top 40 recruit for half the season. We've not seen this level of talent at SLU in many years. We're under achieving. Yeah some are injuries and some are victim of circumstance but overall it's under achieving. Do they play hard? Yes. I like that and appreciate it more than a team that doesn't. Some of your points are good, but others I disagree with. I don't think the team is underachieving. Rather, they lack some important skills needed to make winning more likely. There can be no faulting their effort or heart. None! billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 SLU is soon to have wasted 2 years of French and Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, JMM28 said: SLU is soon to have wasted 2 years of French and Goodwin. wasted or maybe they were saviors. just think where we would have been without them. crewsplatt. David King likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 hours ago, dennis_w said: Our boys couldn't have played any harder last night... I noticed you two guys behind the bench! How did you get those seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dennis_w Posted February 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2019 My son David was raised on Billiken basketball and we had many great moments going to games. He enlisted in the US Navy and with deployments and other factors we have not seen a game together in many years. He is scheduled for another deployment next month and we decided that we must take this opportunity and see a game. David initially contacted Olivia Vetere asked if she could help make this a memorable experience. She was eager to help and put us in contact with Ford Stuen. Prior to the game we were invited the morning shootaround where we welcome by Coach Tate and Coach Ford. They allowed us to get right on the floor and at the end of practiced David got to shoot some threes. I was most pleasantly surprised by the friendliness of the entire staff and the players as they each came and shook our hands. As we were about to leave we were offered a seat upgrade and got to sit behind the bench. I cant thank enough all of the Billiken staff and players for making the day memorable. CBFan, moytoy12, wgstl and 21 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, dennis_w said: My son David was raised on Billiken basketball and we had many great moments going to games. He enlisted in the US Navy and with deployments and other factors we have not seen a game together in many years. He is scheduled for another deployment next month and we decided that we must take this opportunity and see a game. David initially contacted Olivia Vetere asked if she could help make this a memorable experience. She was eager to help and put us in contact with Ford Stuen. Prior to the game we were invited the morning shootaround where we welcome by Coach Tate and Coach Ford. They allowed us to get right on the floor and at the end of practiced David got to shoot some threes. I was most pleasantly surprised by the friendliness of the entire staff and the players as they each came and shook our hands. As we were about to leave we were offered a seat upgrade and got to sit behind the bench. I cant thank enough all of the Billiken staff and players for making the day memorable. Great post thanks for sharing tell your son we appreciate his service to our country. This is why I unconditionally love our team blue. dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, dennis_w said: My son David was raised on Billiken basketball and we had many great moments going to games. He enlisted in the US Navy and with deployments and other factors we have not seen a game together in many years. He is scheduled for another deployment next month and we decided that we must take this opportunity and see a game. David initially contacted Olivia Vetere asked if she could help make this a memorable experience. She was eager to help and put us in contact with Ford Stuen. Prior to the game we were invited the morning shootaround where we welcome by Coach Tate and Coach Ford. They allowed us to get right on the floor and at the end of practiced David got to shoot some threes. I was most pleasantly surprised by the friendliness of the entire staff and the players as they each came and shook our hands. As we were about to leave we were offered a seat upgrade and got to sit behind the bench. I cant thank enough all of the Billiken staff and players for making the day memorable. Wonderful Dennis! Best to you and David! dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Something i forgot to mention was that david's first basketball camp coach was corey tate. Got a smile from him when i told him that david was seven at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, dennis_w said: Something i forgot to mention was that david's first basketball camp coach was corey tate. Got a smile from him when i told him that david was seven at the time thanks for sharing, great story..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 hours ago, dennis_w said: My son David was raised on Billiken basketball and we had many great moments going to games. He enlisted in the US Navy and with deployments and other factors we have not seen a game together in many years. He is scheduled for another deployment next month and we decided that we must take this opportunity and see a game. David initially contacted Olivia Vetere asked if she could help make this a memorable experience. She was eager to help and put us in contact with Ford Stuen. Prior to the game we were invited the morning shootaround where we welcome by Coach Tate and Coach Ford. They allowed us to get right on the floor and at the end of practiced David got to shoot some threes. I was most pleasantly surprised by the friendliness of the entire staff and the players as they each came and shook our hands. As we were about to leave we were offered a seat upgrade and got to sit behind the bench. I cant thank enough all of the Billiken staff and players for making the day memorable. -how great for the two of you, I'm glad to hear that you were treated this way, wish you could have seen a win, that's great, thank you for sharing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_w Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 we saw a good hard fought game, though a win would have been sweet, the team did us proud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenHudDude Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Please thank your son for his service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, dennis_w said: Something i forgot to mention was that david's first basketball camp coach was corey tate. Got a smile from him when i told him that david was seven at the time Dennis. As other have said, appreciate your story and photos. As we all know, it really is hard to be a Billiken fan - and we need all we can get!! As to basketball camps, I recall my first SLU Basketball camp as well -- Grawer was in his early years and used his DeSmet/Mizzou contacts to bring in both Stiponovich and Sundvold -- watching Jon shoot FT's, in person, was amazing. Jon got on a roll and hit at least 8 or 9 in a row, then made his next one but the ball first hit rim, then rolled in, and Grawer pointed out that to Jon - that was considered a miss. And BTW, thank you and all the best to your son for his military service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/27/2019 at 2:10 PM, Quality Is Job 1 said: Some of your points are good, but others I disagree with. I don't think the team is underachieving. Rather, they lack some important skills needed to make winning more likely. There can be no faulting their effort or heart. None! Amen. We have a few super talented players - and glad we have them - but to act like our 7 guys who are still standing (and both Bess and Foreman are not 100%) are underachieving is nonsense. If we can get healthy, have Hankton and Jacobs contribute, then might be able to make a run -- but this year's talent is just not NCAA Tournament quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 This has been the only thing related to Billikens basketball that has brought me any sort of happiness in the last few weeks, so thank you, Dennis. dennis_w, HenryB, SLU_Lax and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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