White Pelican Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Agreed. Long overdue for him to put on those big boy pants and get his sh!t together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I thought the article was fair. The subtext was Gordon can be a team wrecker if you cater to his whims and wishes. He's not worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, NextYearBill said: ever heard of Lenny Cooke? i doubt it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Cooke There was a Lenny Cooke documentary that got pretty wide distribution on cable/streaming. It shows just how quickly it can all come unraveled for an elite player if his development stalls. LindellWest, majerus mojo and JohnnyJumpUp like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMS81 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 IMO, it speaks volumes that CG quit the team in mid-season. I cannot see how this benefits him career-wise. Has there been another player do this in the past? I agree with other posts - let's recruit athletes with character who are fully committed to the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, slu72 said: Plain and simple if he thought he was bigger than the team, it's a good thing he's moved on to what he thinks will be greener pastures. A coach cannot be expected to have one set of rules for the team and one set for a prima donna. It never works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, SLUMS81 said: IMO, it speaks volumes that CG quit the team in mid-season. I cannot see how this benefits him career-wise. Has there been another player do this in the past? I agree with other posts - let's recruit athletes with character who are fully committed to the program. Rueben Cotto left Majerus' team after one semester. Ford picked up Ty Graves after one semester at Boston College. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I don't see this happening, but this is the first mention of Gordon and a possible landing spot that just wasn't some random guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I’m guessing R & G meant that Ben not a fan of our disgruntled departed not saying he himself isn’t a fan of Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, brianstl said: I don't see this happening, but this is the first mention of Gordon and a possible landing spot that just wasn't come random guy. I just can’t see Gordon going through the grind of practice and school anywhere for a year without playing ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Delete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: I just can’t see Gordon going through the grind of practice and school anywhere for a year without playing ball. not to mention sitting through class... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: I just can’t see Gordon going through the grind of practice and school anywhere for a year without playing ball. Agreed. If motivation, attendance, work ethic, and attitude were issues when he was a top 5 scorer and mostly starter, how can they not be issues sitting around for a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Cusamano mentioned Memphis yesterday as he played AAU for him at a time. I don’t see him lasting wherever he winds up. He’ll be playing in a lower division pro team in Bulgaria in a few years with the way he grinds on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: I just can’t see Gordon going through the grind of practice and school anywhere for a year without playing ball. It would actually be at least a year and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 10 hours ago, moytoy12 said: Respectfully disagree. CG is a high level talent. He was a force on D as freshman and his offensive game had a very high ceiling. From a pure talent standpoint, he is far more talented than Evans. Even if talent was similar - a 6'9 Evans is an NBA player, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Littlebill said: Even if talent was similar - a 6'9 Evans is an NBA player, imo A 6'9 Evans wouldnt have been at SLU but I get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 If you are a program that currently has a scholarship spot open, Gordon is actually a low risk high reward guy to take a chance on right now. Get him on campus for the spring semester and if he doesn't do what he needs to you cut him loose at the end of the semester. He doesn't take a scholarship away from another potential player. If he has his act together, well then you have a hell of a player. TheChosenOne and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, davidnark said: It would actually be at least a year and a half. Yeah, had he left before the end of the fall semester he could start playing after the end of the fall 2019 semester. A year and a half is a long time for an unmotivated student. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 When folks speak of people around him who are they? Frank started show Thursday by saying C.G. hasn’t had family showing at any game kid was in since he’s known him at 12. That is rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, davidnark said: It would actually be at least a year and a half. We don't know right now what SLU will do if a waiver is requested for Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Box and Won said: Yeah, had he left before the end of the fall semester he could start playing after the end of the fall 2019 semester. A year and a half is a long time for an unmotivated student. I think it is actually a year at most. The second semester hasn't started at SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, brianstl said: I think it is actually a year at most. The second semester hasn't started at SLU. Gotcha. I thought that the NCAA considered the players to be in the second semester now (since first semester grades are in the books). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Box and Won said: Yeah, had he left before the end of the fall semester he could start playing after the end of the fall 2019 semester. A year and a half is a long time for an unmotivated student. year and a half is especially long when its all school no play, and carte loves school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, brianstl said: If you are a program that currently has a scholarship spot open, Gordon is actually a low risk high reward guy to take a chance on right now. Get him on campus for the spring semester and if he doesn't do what he needs to you cut him loose at the end of the semester. He doesn't take a scholarship away from another potential player. If he has his act together, well then you have a hell of a player. I agree mostly. The problem is a guy like that can obviously be a huge detriment to the team culture. There is risk taking him on and letting a “redshirt” guy, who isn’t contributing this year, derail the conference season. I just can’t see him going anywhere at this point. If he has to be walked to class at SLU, the thought of him cutting it as a sitout for a year at a place like ND is laughable. His smart bet is to explore what opportunities exist at a pro level. Although from the stories from SLU and high school we’ve heard, he could probably start an international incident if he goes to the wrong country. And as others have said, I don’t imagine it would be easy for any 19 year old, let alone this one, to go overseas and be mature enough to handle business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 G League may be the best landing spot for him. If he's got Willie's attitude towards classwork, why should he return to school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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