Pistol Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Jimmy Bell's mom is a national treasure. SLUMedBilliken15, Zink, Spoon-Balls and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Welcome to the Bills Jimmy Bell, looking forward to seeing you play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 -I hope history doesn't repeat, and this has recently been discussed on the Board in some thread, but it might be wise to remember the first year play of our jucos when having expectations for Perkins, who I hope is a star from day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Perkins is a much better scorer than Kevin Footes, who was a fairly great scorer as a junior juco transfer under Grawer’s intense micromanagement. He chafed Grawer something fierce, and spent far too much time on the bench due to his perceived indolence at defense. Footes was Bonner’s final year and Skinner’s freshman year. He hit 14 pts a game both years, averaged 4.3 rpg, and 2.7/4.3 apg his Jr/sr years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Three 2 year JUCO's who hit the floor running and significantly contributed their first year include Burns, Dillard, Dobbs, and Love. We really haven't had that many JUCO's to draw much of a trendline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Pistol said: Jimmy Bell's mom is a national treasure. Good quote and the video of Jimmy from his Michigan days really shows how much weight he has lost! It's incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Great quote from Momma Bell. She gets what the value of a scholarship means to her son and her family. Love that she mentioned a "four year scholarship" which in my mind translates into "he better get his degree out of all that free college" and that she expects him to be here for four years. Looking forward to seeing Momma Bell behind the bench for all four years of those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Great quote from Momma Bell. She gets what the value of a scholarship means to her son and her family. Love that she mentioned a "four year scholarship" which in my mind translates into "he better get his degree out of all that free college" and that she expects him to be here for four years. Looking forward to seeing Momma Bell behind the bench for all four years of those years. I'd go further, Momma Bell should be given, at least occasionally, free tickets for local games to make sure she can attend to a number of the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Old guy said: I'd go further, Momma Bell should be given, at least occasionally, free tickets for local games to make sure she can attend to a number of the games. Players are allotted like 4 tickets to every game(home and away). Most of the time players won't use them and will put other players guests on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Corey Tate was on with Frank C this AM. He couldn't talk about Lewis as he hasn't signed. Talked very positive about Collins. Commented on his instincts that can't be taught. Called Goodwin their Power Point Guard and Collins the Natural Point Guard. Collins just makes everyone better. Hargrove: "out of all the kids, he will has the chance to be the best pro". He doesn't 'have a position' but will grow into one. Perkins: at 6'7" he can play multiple positions, he can play PG. Coach likes players who can play multiple positions. He can score, shoot the ball and rebound. Van Macon started the recruiting of Isabell, but Tate brought him in. Coach never gave up on Isabell, he was always positive with him. Frank asked about transfers, JUCO or HS recruits for the two open schollies. Tate: " There is no formula for recruiting. We know what we need. However they come doesn't matter." Corey said it was kind of rough when he left Mizzou. Tate said that he is pretty sure if SLU has a commit, Martin wouldn't go after him, and vice versa. No regrets on bringing in Gordon. "We are still here for him." Discussion on starting lineup next season: Frank has Thatch and Goodwin in. Tate wouldn't bite, didn't want to guarantee anything" but said core of the team starts with Thatch, Goodwin and French". What can you do French FT? "Just practice. Most of the issue is from the shoulders up. His mechanics are good." A little trash talk between Frank and Corey on Pattonville v DeSmet. Tate said that Coach Spoonhour and Coach Stewart were in his living room at the same time recruiting him. Spoon had the appointment, and Stewart came anyway. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thepressbox/2019/04/18/segment-4--corey-tate-41819 SShoe, SLURadioBoy, TheDude and 6 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Hargrove: "out of all the kids, he will has the chance to be the best pro". He doesn't 'have a position' but will grow into one. Perkins: at 6'7" he can play multiple positions, he can play PG. Coach likes players who can play multiple positions. He can score, shoot the ball and rebound. This surprises me a little. Given everything Ive heard about Perkins along with his size, the sounds like a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, wgstl said: This surprises me a little. Given everything Ive heard about Perkins along with his size, the sounds like a pro. Perkins is the more experienced, better scoring, more complete player right now. Hargrove is the one with the higher ceiling, though. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Corey Tate was on with Frank C this AM. He couldn't talk about Lewis as he hasn't signed. Tate said that Coach Spoonhour and Coach Stewart were in his living room at the same time recruiting him. Spoon had the appointment, and Stewart came anyway. He didn't indicate when Lewis would sign, did he? I know he can't mention him by name, but I don't see why he couldn't say "We have a player who should be signing this weekend" or whatever. Stewart was such a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, wgstl said: This surprises me a little. Given everything Ive heard about Perkins along with his size, the sounds like a pro. You can be a do everything wing in the A10 without being a pro. Pretty much every team in the top 25 has someone like Perkins. It's pretty rare in the A10, though. That's why I love the fit. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Corey Tate was on with Frank C this AM. He couldn't talk about Lewis as he hasn't signed. Talked very positive about Collins. Commented on his instincts that can't be taught. Called Goodwin their Power Point Guard and Collins the Natural Point Guard. Collins just makes everyone better. Hargrove: "out of all the kids, he will has the chance to be the best pro". He doesn't 'have a position' but will grow into one. Perkins: at 6'7" he can play multiple positions, he can play PG. Coach likes players who can play multiple positions. He can score, shoot the ball and rebound. Van Macon started the recruiting of Isabell, but Tate brought him in. Coach never gave up on Isabell, he was always positive with him. Frank asked about transfers, JUCO or HS recruits for the two open schollies. Tate: " There is no formula for recruiting. We know what we need. However they come doesn't matter." Corey said it was kind of rough when he left Mizzou. Tate said that he is pretty sure if SLU has a commit, Martin wouldn't go after him, and vice versa. No regrets on bringing in Gordon. "We are still here for him." Discussion on starting lineup next season: Frank has Thatch and Goodwin in. Tate wouldn't bite, didn't want to guarantee anything" but said core of the team starts with Thatch, Goodwin and French. What can you do French FT? "Just practice. Most of the issue is from the shoulders up. His mechanics are good." A little trash talk between Frank and Corey on Pattonville v DeSmet. Tate said that Coach Spoonhour and Coach Stewart were in his living room at the same time recruiting him. Spoon had the appointment, and Stewart came anyway. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thepressbox/2019/04/18/segment-4--corey-tate-41819 good stuff! thanks for posting. no matter how much of a home frank is, he is a great communicator for all things billiken. we dont give him enough credit. VeniceMenace, Adman and BIG BILL FAN like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pistol said: Perkins is the more experienced, better scoring, more complete player right now. Hargrove is the one with the higher ceiling, though. Agreed. I dont know, just something about a athletic 6'7 shooter that seems to always gets NBA exc happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Corey Tate was on with Frank C this AM. He couldn't talk about Lewis as he hasn't signed. Talked very positive about Collins. Commented on his instincts that can't be taught. Called Goodwin their Power Point Guard and Collins the Natural Point Guard. Collins just makes everyone better. Hargrove: "out of all the kids, he will has the chance to be the best pro". He doesn't 'have a position' but will grow into one. Perkins: at 6'7" he can play multiple positions, he can play PG. Coach likes players who can play multiple positions. He can score, shoot the ball and rebound. Van Macon started the recruiting of Isabell, but Tate brought him in. Coach never gave up on Isabell, he was always positive with him. Frank asked about transfers, JUCO or HS recruits for the two open schollies. Tate: " There is no formula for recruiting. We know what we need. However they come doesn't matter." Corey said it was kind of rough when he left Mizzou. Tate said that he is pretty sure if SLU has a commit, Martin wouldn't go after him, and vice versa. No regrets on bringing in Gordon. "We are still here for him." Discussion on starting lineup next season: Frank has Thatch and Goodwin in. Tate wouldn't bite, didn't want to guarantee anything" but said core of the team starts with Thatch, Goodwin and French. What can you do French FT? "Just practice. Most of the issue is from the shoulders up. His mechanics are good." A little trash talk between Frank and Corey on Pattonville v DeSmet. Tate said that Coach Spoonhour and Coach Stewart were in his living room at the same time recruiting him. Spoon had the appointment, and Stewart came anyway. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thepressbox/2019/04/18/segment-4--corey-tate-41819 I don't believe for a second that Cuonzo would back off of SLU commits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I don't believe for a second that Cuonzo would back off of SLU commits. I do. If he creates that kind of bs Ford can just call him out publicly and have SLU play Missouri and without their stars they once had, they will be humiliated. I do believe he might not tell his helpers to lay off directly though and let them do it if he isn’t involved. My point is, it wouldn’t serve any of them any good to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 slu coaches will not look good calling out poacher martin or his staff. if the recruit wants to tell the world, that's fine, but slu has to stay out of that. Zink, RiseOfTheBillikens and SLU_Lax like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Pistol said: He didn't indicate when Lewis would sign, did he? I know he can't mention him by name, but I don't see why he couldn't say "We have a player who should be signing this weekend" or whatever. No. Lewis was the first item Frank brought up, and then Frank said something like, "Are you allowed to talk about him? We don't want to get you in trouble." Tate took the 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Pistol said: Perkins is the more experienced, better scoring, more complete player right now. Hargrove is the one with the higher ceiling, though. They are both pretty similar size wise, maybe an inch and 5 pounds difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Does Grandy have a connection with Jimmy Bell? He posted SLU’s article about signing him. I didn’t think Grandy was still connected with the SLU program so my assumption he might know Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Does Grandy have a connection with Jimmy Bell? He posted SLU’s article about signing him. I didn’t think Grandy was still connected with the SLU program so my assumption he might know Jimmy Grandy Glaze got his degree from Saint Louis U., so it stands to reason that he would have some interest in the school and program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Grandy was at Grand Canyon - was it two seasons ago? would Bell have been in Scottsdale at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 3:33 PM, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: I do. If he creates that kind of bs Ford can just call him out publicly and have SLU play Missouri and without their stars they once had, they will be humiliated. I do believe he might not tell his helpers to lay off directly though and let them do it if he isn’t involved. My point is, it wouldn’t serve any of them any good to do that Ford can't just have SLU play Mizzou. You get that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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