philliken Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Sheltiedave said: Learning the proper back arch is quite easy, if you have someone to mimic, learn how to plant your jump foot, pump your arms , and rotate your hips. The hardest thing for non-skilled high jumpers is learning how to clear their drag foot, and he has that problem bad. It took me two weeks in high school to improve from knowing nothing and clearing 5’4”, watching and training with a 7’ high jumper, to consistently hitting 6’1”. TH could easily improve 6 to 8 inches by taking the right angle into the bar, dial in his pivot and launch, and learn to arch and snap. Hopefully, they have a light fiberglass and carbon bar, and not the old triangle aluminum bar that would crosscheck you in the back on bad jumps. Having not watched him jump, I'm speculating. What Sheltie says is correct. The only thing I'd say is 6-8 inches is possibly too high. He's not going to improve his jump height, just better form clearing the bar at a height he is currently jumping. My guess is with ~3 attempts at a height, he's managed to get his form just right to get that high. What did his mom say he cleared in practice? 7'2"? That's while being coached, and unlimited attempts. Although any jumper will tell you, after 20 or so jumps, your legs are about done without some decent rest. So if he stuck with it, I'd say 2-4 inches is likely; that 6-8 possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 hours ago, philliken said: Having not watched him jump, I'm speculating. What Sheltie says is correct. The only thing I'd say is 6-8 inches is possibly too high. He's not going to improve his jump height, just better form clearing the bar at a height he is currently jumping. My guess is with ~3 attempts at a height, he's managed to get his form just right to get that high. What did his mom say he cleared in practice? 7'2"? That's while being coached, and unlimited attempts. Although any jumper will tell you, after 20 or so jumps, your legs are about done without some decent rest. So if he stuck with it, I'd say 2-4 inches is likely; that 6-8 possible. I think you are both correct. I base my comment on the on picture which give the impression of no back arching at all, and a body posture similar to sitting in a chair. I realize the moments before and may have been different, I have not seen a video. I agree that 6-8 more inches is possible and makes me weep for that kind of ability. But getting the last three to four inches will be the hardest. It requires an awareness of your body in space, and a synchronizations of movements to at the right time and speed to clear the height. You are right your legs tire out especially on hot and humid days. That is why time (to learn) and experience is the issue, confidence about consistently making a height lets you pass to a height you want to start at, depending on the competition you might be able to minimize the number of jump attempts to save the legs for the higher heights. Does he do any other events like long jump or triple jump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Old guy said: Hate to tell you but most injuries in bed do not happen when you are asleep. I didn't suggest otherwise. I just said it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 small clip from Gibsons coach " Former MVA athlete of the week Gibson Jimerson committed to St. Louis University. Jimerson led the CBD post-graduate team not only in points made but also in field goal percentage. In the summer of 2018, Jimerson was named one of the best shooters in the Nike Elite Youth Basketball League (EYBL) shooting 44.7 percent from behind the arc. Jimerson's game expands beyond the basketball court as he maintained a cumulative GPA of 4.32 earning Summa Laude and is in the top percentile of the postgraduate class. "He is a super efficient player, he is a player you don't want to take out of the game even if he needs a break, he's that good," said Kevin Boyle Jr. "From a classroom standpoint, he is the most consistent player who is always eligible to play because he's even better in his academics. Not everyone has a chance to play in the NBA or overseas, but if I had to pick someone to have a successful pro career, it would be him."" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 That sounds like a pretty good testimonial of Jimerson's abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Hargrove went for 6-8 again in sectionals. The second-place finisher jumped 6-5. East St. Louis got the overall win with 141 points; second place was Mascoutah with 79. The state finals are May 23-25 at Eastern Illinois University. Hargrove also graduated this week. Big week for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Indeed. Let’s get 7’ @ State! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HoosierPal Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, wgstl said: One has to assume there is no news from the NCAA on Lewis' request for immediate eligibility. And in class already.....hmm, chance of graduating after summer session and being an eligible GT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: One has to assume there is no news from the NCAA on Lewis' request for immediate eligibility. And in class already.....hmm, chance of graduating after summer session and being an eligible GT? Isn't this only the end of his third year of year of college? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 53 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: One has to assume there is no news from the NCAA on Lewis' request for immediate eligibility. And in class already.....hmm, chance of graduating after summer session and being an eligible GT? Summer classes have already begun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ford said center Madani Diarra is a legit 6-11 and was around 247 pounds on his visit. Jimmy Bell Jr. is 6-10 and about 280. The 13th scholarship will only be filled if SLU finds a "difference maker," Ford said.</p>— stu durando (@studurando) <a href="https://twitter.com/studurando/status/1130551485891268615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Isn't this only the end of his third year of year of college? He could have brought college credit in to his first school and then carried more than 12 hours a semester. It is possible that he could have enough to graduate at the end of the summer. I could see how this could work as a GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, cheeseman said: He could have brought college credit in to his first school and then carried more than 12 hours a semester. It is possible that he could have enough to graduate at the end of the summer. I could see how this could work as a GT. Plus it is possible he brought some credits in from Chaminade. Crawford and Welmer got their bachelors diploma after three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 If he was going to graduate over the summer they wouldn't be trying to get him a waiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, willie said: Summer classes have already begun? Yes, as of today. There are a number of overlapping summer sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: I agree with Coach 314. Jimmy Bell works his way into the lineup...then between him, French and Hargrove, Grant Golden faces a Billiken BEATDOWN! Spoon-Balls likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 16 hours ago, brianstl said: If he was going to graduate over the summer they wouldn't be trying to get him a waiver. Well, maybe they aren't anymore. Or maybe they are. Or maybe it has been rejected. Or maybe they said okay after the first semester. Maybe it is something that Lewis wants to do anyway. Or maybe they don't want to wait for the NCAA to procrastinate away the summer. Or maybe he needs credits to transfer with 3 full years of credits. Just looking at possibilities. Off season workouts don't start until sometime in early to mid June. So he being in class already is a positive sign, (of something). Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Yuri and Hargrove have great chemistry. Love, Fletcher, Philip Russell, Jordan Nesbitt in the video as well. (2020 class) Spoon-Balls, Quality Is Job 1 and Pistol like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Coach314 said: Yuri and Hargrove have great chemistry. Love, Fletcher, Philip Russell, Jordan Nesbitt in the video as well. (2020 class) Who is in the electric blue shorts scoring at will the second half of the video? Quality Is Job 1 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Plus it is possible he brought some credits in from Chaminade. Crawford and Welmer got their bachelors diploma after three years. Yes that was what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said: Who is in the electric blue shorts scoring at will the second half of the video? I think that is a dude from Columbia who played at a small college and is a pro at this point, Jordan Stevens. I need someone to verify that for me though. Regardless, that guy was killing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TheChosenOne said: I think that is a dude from Columbia who played at a small college and is a pro at this point, Jordan Stevens. I need someone to verify that for me though. Regardless, that guy was killing it. He looked like a member of the Harlem Globetrotters toying with the Washington Generals! What I liked about the video is that, besides the pro players, Yuri Collins stood out the most, and he also showed a credible perimeter shot. (Granted, the video was edited and we don't see how many shots he may have missed.) Did anyone else notice how little Jeremiah Tilmon stood out, despite playing against players mostly still in high school? He's got to add a lot to his game (mostly between the ears?) to become an NBA prospect (for anything besides being so tall). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Coach314 said: Yuri and Hargrove have great chemistry. Love, Fletcher, Philip Russell, Jordan Nesbitt in the video as well. (2020 class) That's an interesting assemblage of basketball players! What, is that footage of a practice for a pro-am league team? If so, then that team could be tough to handle. (If I were a betting man, though, I'd still put my money on a team with Jordan Goodwin on it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 9 hours ago, TheChosenOne said: I think that is a dude from Columbia who played at a small college and is a pro at this point, Jordan Stevens. I need someone to verify that for me though. Regardless, that guy was killing it. You're correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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