cgeldmacher Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, willie said: The only possible reason I can see to bank a scholarship is to have one open for a mid year transfer. What about if Ford has three really talented players he feels good about signing next year, but only two spots open to sign them. Banking a scholarship is better than locking up a stiff in the Spring. Best scenario is GT that goes away after one year. My point is bank a scholarship rather than sign a guy you don't feel confident in and might waste a scholarship for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, willie said: The only possible reason I can see to bank a scholarship is to have one open for a mid year transfer. Or all the decent grad transfers opt to go elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, cgeldmacher said: What about if Ford has three really talented players he feels good about signing next year, but only two spots open to sign them. Banking a scholarship is better than locking up a stiff in the Spring. Best scenario is GT that goes away after one year. My point is bank a scholarship rather than sign a guy you don't feel confident in and might waste a scholarship for a few years. You don't bank the scholarship, you bring in a Grad Transfer even if he is just there as a practice body. ACE likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 someone will leave. Someone always leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: You don't bank the scholarship, you bring in a Grad Transfer even if he is just there as a practice body. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Agree. We've already got a walk-on who is good enough to be a scholarship practice body: http://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2017-18/div1/players/joshuahightower0ajp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: You don't bank the scholarship, you bring in a Grad Transfer even if he is just there as a practice body. I can see banking one if you think the semester break transfer market will offer you something better than what you can currently sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I am just wondering since I have no idea what the answer to this question may be. Why do players leave a program after 1 semester? I assume mostly because of personality clashes or issues with fitting in a team. Is this correct? Anyone knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, Old guy said: I am just wondering since I have no idea what the answer to this question may be. Why do players leave a program after 1 semester? I assume mostly because of personality clashes or issues with fitting in a team. Is this correct? Anyone knows? home sick, family problems, players thinking they were more ready for the next level than they were. players who like to jump schools and aau teams every year or so. Theres a few reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 If you don't have happiness and/or contentment within yourself wherever you are now, you won't likely have it if you go someplace else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: If you don't have happiness and/or contentment within yourself wherever you are now, you won't likely have it if you go someplace else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, wgstl said: home sick, family problems, players thinking they were more ready for the next level than they were. players who like to jump schools and aau teams every year or so. Theres a few reasons. Thank you wgstl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, juniorbill76 said: Confucius said "Very difficult to do, easier to move elsewhere." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Hargrove finished 2nd in Illinois Mr. Basketball voting behind the obvious winner in Liddell. Saying Hargrove isn’t a top 3 recruit in Illinois (as many sites have him way lower) is just disrespectful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, MattyMo213 said: Hargrove finished 2nd in Illinois Mr. Basketball voting behind the obvious winner in Liddell. Saying Hargrove isn’t a top 3 recruit in Illinois (as many sites have him way lower) is just disrespectful Downstate players get no respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Depends on how you look at it. I believe that this is the third player of the year award in a row in Illinois given to a Metro East player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, thetorch said: Downstate players get no respect. right which im sure is a direct result of most of the voters from being in Chicago. Sounds like its slowly changing tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, MattyMo213 said: Hargrove finished 2nd in Illinois Mr. Basketball voting behind the obvious winner in Liddell. Saying Hargrove isn’t a top 3 recruit in Illinois (as many sites have him way lower) is just disrespectful chicago. it is the story/frustration of anyone on just about anything south of highway 80. they want us to shut up and accept everything yet we have to pay their way with our taxes. i'd have no problem splitting the state and making a north and south illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Depends on how you look at it. I believe that this is the third player of the year award in a row in Illinois given to a Metro East player. correct, and in the last 3 years, two of the final 3 in the running were from the metro I believe. 2019: EJ and terrence 2018: EJ and terrence(I think) 2017 Mark smith and Goodwin who most likely would have won if it wasnt for the surgery edit: never mind Hargrove wasn't a finalist in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, wgstl said: correct, and in the last 3 years, two of the final 3 in the running were from the metro I believe. 2019: EJ and terrence 2018: EJ and terrence(I think) 2017 Mark smith and Goodwin who most likely would have won if it wasnt for the surgery Goodwin got robbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, MattyMo213 said: Goodwin got robbed yes and no. He was welllllll on his way to win the award rather easily it sounds like, but didnt he only play half the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 So, no bias in giving out awards, just in national recruiting rankings. If this is the case, that's probably something that we should not be complaining about. If guys from the Metro East are flying under the radar nationally, and Ford is good at getting them, all the better for our program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: So, no bias in giving out awards, just in national recruiting rankings. If this is the case, that's probably something that we should not be complaining about. If guys from the Metro East are flying under the radar nationally, and Ford is good at getting them, all the better for our program. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, wgstl said: yes and no. He was welllllll on his way to win the award rather easily it sounds like, but didnt he only play half the year? Yeah, my recollection is that he had a shoulder that would dislocate easily, and he stopped playing during his senior year once he broke the school scoring record to have surgery to fix the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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