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1 hour ago, slu72 said:

While getting rebounds is always an important factor in winning, against Butler we sure as hell better defend the perimeter and stop the dribble drive penetration. Not sure their PG is much of a dribble drive guy. But against Pitt and C.Ark their PG's had their way with us on dashes to the hoops. We didn't seem to have an answer for them.

Thompson, Butler's PG, is not a major threat to penetrate.  But Baldwin is.  You can call him PG or SG, it doesn't matter.  To me, the defense on Baldwin will go a long way in dictating the outcome of the game.  And remember, one of our bigs likely will be out of the lane guarding McDermott.  We also have to stay true on defense for Jorgensen, a second 44% three point shooter.   This boils down to some interesting defense.

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1 hour ago, HoosierPal said:

Thompson, Butler's PG, is not a major threat to penetrate.  But Baldwin is.  You can call him PG or SG, it doesn't matter.  To me, the defense on Baldwin will go a long way in dictating the outcome of the game.  And remember, one of our bigs likely will be out of the lane guarding McDermott.  We also have to stay true on defense for Jorgensen, a second 44% three point shooter.   This boils down to some interesting defense.

I'd hate to see this game become us trying to match them if they've got a hot hand from 3 territory. We have to count on our D and rebounding to win this game, which is not an unusual situation for us.

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1 hour ago, slu72 said:

I'd hate to see this game become us trying to match them if they've got a hot hand from 3 territory. We have to count on our D and rebounding to win this game, which is not an unusual situation for us.

I agree with you on making them matching up with us, but as you pointed out,

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against Pitt and C.Ark their PG's had their way with us on dashes to the hoops. We didn't seem to have an answer for them

Baldwin is a much more adept ball handler and shooter than either of those two.  Even though he is not listed as a PG, he will have the ball in his hands more than Thompson.

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38 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said:

Nate Silver wrote a nice article ripping apart the “horrible” NET rankings 

He lost my ears a couple years back.

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We're 48th in the NET rankings today. For comparison, Butler is 49, SIUC is 105, and Oregon State is 77.

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I figured that loss would keep us from getting votes. Silly though. We'd be in top 25 if we had won. We will be back next week if we win next 2.

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Interesting week.  Things to note:
Florida St is now top-10.  Would love them to be there or higher when we play them.
Houston moved into the rankings at #24.  Another chance to knock off a ranked opponent.
Butler receiving 2 votes.
Davidson receving 1.
Seton Hall also gets 1.
 
AP Top 25
 
RK
TEAM
REC
PTS
TREND
 
 
1
KansasKansas(57)
8-0
1583
1
 
 
2
DukeDuke(4)
9-1
1454
1
 
 
3
7-1
1421
4
 
 
4
GonzagaGonzaga(1)
9-1
1412
3
 
 
5
10-0
1398
-
 
 
6
9-0
1384
2
 
 
7
10-0
1283
1
 
 
8
8-1
1151
-
 
 
9
8-2
1066
1
 
 
10
8-1
991
1
 
 
11
8-0
914
2
 
 
12
7-2
890
2
 
 
13
8-1
833
2
 
 
14
9-0
664
3
 
 
15
8-1
621
4
 
 
16
8-2
599
4
 
 
17
8-2
532
4
 
 
18
8-1
441
4
 
 
19
7-2
385
10
 
 
20
7-1
351
-
 
 
21
8-2
281
5
 
 
22
7-2
208
4
 
 
23
10-0
189
2
 
 
24
8-0
173
2
 
 
25
8-2
118
1
 
 
 
7-2
118
1
 
 
 
6-2
118
9
 
 
 
 

Others receiving votes: Nebraska 115, Maryland 105, Oklahoma 82, Cincinnati 73, St. John's 57, Purdue 40, NC State 26, Iowa State 19, TCU 13, San Francisco 5, UCLA 3, Minnesota 2, Butler 2, NJIT 1, Seton Hall 1, Davidson 1, Florida 1, Texas 1

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Two chances at knocking off top 25 teams. 1-1 would be a big feather in our cap. 2-0 we're almost a lock if we go 14-4 in the A10. 

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A win at Carbondale would have gotten SLU some votes oh so close beat Houston that has only beaten one good team and were there.

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2 hours ago, philliken said:

 

Florida St is now top-10.  Would love them to be there or higher when we play them.

FSU plays SEMO and North Florida before our matchup with them.  Very unlikely that they lose either of those games and teams typically don't move down in the rankings if they continue winning.  Therefore, it is a good bet that FSU will be #10 or higher when we play them.

Edit: that SEMO game isn't until next Monday (weird schedule I guess because of finals), so Florida State actually will not play any games before the next rankings come out which will be the last set of rankings before we play them.  I think you can pretty much lock them into the #10 spot or higher when we play unless something crazy happens.

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Today's NCAA NET Rankings have Houston at 14 and Florida State at 29.  SLU comes in at 69, VCU at 59 and Dayton at 63.  Davidson is at 80, the only other A10 school under 100.

SIUC is a healthy 62.

Playing LaSalle twice, #339, is not going to help at all.

 

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