SShoe Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Duff Man said: Is Welmer seriously only going to be a Jr next season? Is that actually confirmed or is that one of those "he's going to apply for an exemption and we'll see what happens later" deals...and that's assuming his body holds up. This is a guy who committed in Dec of 2013 when he was a senior in HS and he's seriously going to be playing as college "senior" in 2021? That just doesn't seem possible. They announced him as a sophomore on Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RUBillsFan said: I wonder if Santos departure allows for us to potentially add a mid-year transfer or is his scholarship already used for the entire academic year? If we can add a mid-year transfer, that could be a nice option. There aren't usually a ton of them & odds of having the right fit with one are slim. However, there are also not as many teams to compete with since not all teams have a spot open. We could maybe add a So. big man with that spot that would then slot in with the French/Goodwin class and have 1/2 of his junior year and senior year with us. Good thought. There's some risk with that, but if the right guy is available, I think this would be better than a 2-year transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, Duff Man said: Is Welmer seriously only going to be a Jr next season? Is that actually confirmed or is that one of those "he's going to apply for an exemption and we'll see what happens later" deals...and that's assuming his body holds up. This is a guy who committed in Dec of 2013 when he was a senior in HS and he's seriously going to be playing as college "senior" in 2021? That just doesn't seem possible. Just imagine the feel good stories on CBS about him when we go on that final four run in 2021. GBL_Bills likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, SShoe said: They announced him as a sophomore on Friday night. He was one of the few Crews recruits who (when healthy) looked like he could be part of an NCAA tournament rotation. I hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Duff Man said: Is Welmer seriously only going to be a Jr next season? Is that actually confirmed or is that one of those "he's going to apply for an exemption and we'll see what happens later" deals...and that's assuming his body holds up. This is a guy who committed in Dec of 2013 when he was a senior in HS and he's seriously going to be playing as college "senior" in 2021? That just doesn't seem possible. Does Social Security negatively impact eligibility? Box and Won likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, brianstl said: Does Social Security negatively impact eligibility? No, but his new AARP membership has a positive impact on movie ticket prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: I wonder if Santos departure allows for us to potentially add a mid-year transfer or is his scholarship already used for the entire academic year? If we can add a mid-year transfer, that could be a nice option. There aren't usually a ton of them & odds of having the right fit with one are slim. However, there are also not as many teams to compete with since not all teams have a spot open. We could maybe add a So. big man with that spot that would then slot in with the French/Goodwin class and have 1/2 of his junior year and senior year with us. I would think that he was enrolled for this semester so this semester is lost but his schollie technically would be available for second semester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, brianstl said: Does Social Security negatively impact eligibility? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, brianstl said: Does Social Security negatively impact eligibility? -nicely played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Believe me Welmer is far away from Social Security, however I am sure he might want to get all or most of a LLD, MD, or PhD under scholarship. As long as he can play and plays well, who cares what degree he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, HoosierPal said: So is Gibson's 86% FT / 45% 3FG close enough to our new standard of 90/50? I've been watching for someone to post Gibson's FT%/FG5/3-PT FG% numbers but haven't seen them. Wasn't the Rick M. rule of thumb that a combo of those %s equaling 180 translated into an outstanding shooter that you would want on your team? If Gibson's FT and 3-PT Fg %s are 86 and 45, totaling 131, I assume his overall FG % would be at least 49% getting his "shooting % total" to 180(+). I don't recall any discussion of a new standard of 90/50 (FT and 3-PT %s). That totals 140, meaning that even an overall shooting % just equaling a players' 3-Pt % (50) would give you a total of 190! I don't know if there are any of those out there. I think the 180 combination translates into an outstanding shooter. That brings me back to my original point-does anyone have recent shooting percents for GJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, bauman said: I've been watching for someone to post Gibson's FT%/FG5/3-PT FG% numbers but haven't seen them. Wasn't the Rick M. rule of thumb that a combo of those %s equaling 180 translated into an outstanding shooter that you would want on your team? If Gibson's FT and 3-PT Fg %s are 86 and 45, totaling 131, I assume his overall FG % would be at least 49% getting his "shooting % total" to 180(+). I don't recall any discussion of a new standard of 90/50 (FT and 3-PT %s). That totals 140, meaning that even an overall shooting % just equaling a players' 3-Pt % (50) would give you a total of 190! I don't know if there are any of those out there. I think the 180 combination translates into an outstanding shooter. That brings me back to my original point-does anyone have recent shooting percents for GJ? Sorry, having trouble pasting the quote from @The Wiz here, but this is what he said in the Recruiting thread: I usually don't check anything till a player commits but because he is visiting and has a high probability of signing....I ran some numbers.. 48**/ 45 /86*...=179 overall...Graded slash....A- **/ A+ / A+*....A+ overall... almost at the Majerus magic number of 180....but with a couple of caveats * = Small sample size....not meaningful but at least an indication ** =Not large enough sample size....bigger than small sample size but still not enough to reach a definite conclusion...trending in this direction Bottom line....The 179 overall is a bit shaky due to lack of numbers....but the kid can shoot 3s...something we need and you never can have enough of....Evaluation...Promising Note....the difference between my 45 and the 44 in the above article is that I rounded up...his actual 3P% is 44.7%....not a big deal but since it is his best stat and a significant one I thought I would clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, bauman said: I've been watching for someone to post Gibson's FT%/FG5/3-PT FG% numbers but haven't seen them. Wasn't the Rick M. rule of thumb that a combo of those %s equaling 180 translated into an outstanding shooter that you would want on your team? If Gibson's FT and 3-PT Fg %s are 86 and 45, totaling 131, I assume his overall FG % would be at least 49% getting his "shooting % total" to 180(+). I don't recall any discussion of a new standard of 90/50 (FT and 3-PT %s). That totals 140, meaning that even an overall shooting % just equaling a players' 3-Pt % (50) would give you a total of 190! I don't know if there are any of those out there. I think the 180 combination translates into an outstanding shooter. That brings me back to my original point-does anyone have recent shooting percents for GJ? From the 2019 Thread On 9/28/2018 at 8:26 AM, The Wiz said: I usually don't check anything till a player commits but because he is visiting and has a high probability of signing....I ran some numbers.. 48**/ 45 /86*...=179 overall...Graded slash....A- **/ A+ / A+*....A+ overall... almost at the Majerus magic number of 180....but with a couple of caveats * = Small sample size....not meaningful but at least an indication ** =Not large enough sample size....bigger than small sample size but still not enough to reach a definite conclusion...trending in this direction Bottom line....The 179 overall is a bit shaky due to lack of numbers....but the kid can shoot 3s...something we need and you never can have enough of....Evaluation...Promising Note....the difference between my 45 and the 44 in the above article is that I rounded up...his actual 3P% is 44.7%....not a big deal but since it is his best stat and a significant one I thought I would clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 06, thanks for showing me where those number came from. I would offer the thought that we have never signed a recruit that had a better combo number (179) than GJ. If we have, there would be very few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppybeer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I think the 90/50 numbers were a dig at glory ravs who was talking about stats for Simon Rec superstars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Pistol said: 48**/ 45 /86*...=179 overall...Graded slash....A- **/ A+ / A+*....A+ overall... almost at the Majerus magic number of 180....but with a couple of caveats The career NBA average of the greatest shooter to ever live is 48/44/90. I am not equating Gibson to Steph Curry--there is obviously an absurdly incomparable level of competition--but it does suggest a truly elite level of shooting ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Pistol said: Farrington is headed to Arkansas State, Morsell to Virginia, Davidson to Middle Tennessee, Maxey to Kentucky, Gillam to Cincinnati, Windham to Georgia State, Akingbola to Auburn, I don't think Smith is committed, and Beauchamp is a junior. There are some big-time names on the right, too, along with some recruits from a tier or two down. So the short answer is: not necessarily, but it's a nice list to be on. I know the Wiz said the sample size isn’t large enough to have a definitive evaluation, but if you look at the list of EYBL players on that tweet, he is pretty much in the middle of the pack with minutes played. Also, I think there was a previous tweet showing his total 3 pt attempts and I believe there were only about 4 or 5 players in that group who has more attempts than him. Pretty amazing that he seemed to go under the radar as a dead eye shooter with numbers like this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Duff Man said: Is Welmer seriously only going to be a Jr next season? Is that actually confirmed or is that one of those "he's going to apply for an exemption and we'll see what happens later" deals...and that's assuming his body holds up. This is a guy who committed in Dec of 2013 when he was a senior in HS and he's seriously going to be playing as college "senior" in 2021? That just doesn't seem possible. Heck, he might be Dr. Welmer when he finishes up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Duff Man said: He was one of the few Crews recruits who (when healthy) looked like he could be part of an NCAA tournament rotation. I hope it works out. There’s a reason he’s called Elliott “The Over” Welmer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Jimerson just looks like one of those guys who has a career night and drops about thirty on us when we play Westphalia A&T. It's about damned time we had a guy like this...….. brianstl and Spoon-Balls like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Cowboy said: -nicely played And don't forget Medicare. SLU will only have to cover 20% of his medical costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Slu72, you forgot the blue ink. There is no way that we will keep this kid under scholarship until he reaches age 65 and qualifies for Medicare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Old guy said: Slu72, you forgot the blue ink. There is no way that we will keep this kid under scholarship until he reaches age 65 and qualifies for Medicare. Every now and then it doesn't take any special notation for most astute readers to recognize when the writer is utilizing sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Every now and then it doesn't take any special notation for most astute readers to recognize when the writer is utilizing sarcasm. And that's why I don't believe old guy is on the up and up...... billikenfan05 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Spoon-Balls said: I know the Wiz said the sample size isn’t large enough to have a definitive evaluation, but if you look at the list of EYBL players on that tweet, he is pretty much in the middle of the pack with minutes played. Also, I think there was a previous tweet showing his total 3 pt attempts and I believe there were only about 4 or 5 players in that group who has more attempts than him. Pretty amazing that he seemed to go under the radar as a dead eye shooter with numbers like this... You will note ...I put asterisks on FG% and FT%...none on 3 pt shooting....He is a legit 3 pt shooter.....the rest looks "promising." Spoon-Balls, rgbilliken and drkelsey55 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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