HoosierPal Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, wgstl said: Wileys numbers are a little odd. Appears hes actually a pretty efficient scorer, who just doesn't shoot enough. One of the strangest stats I have ever seen comes with our new Graduate Transfer, 9 free throw attempts in 608 minutes, over 28 games. That is 1 FTA every 3 games, or 1 FTA in every 68 minutes of action. This suggests that he is a pure pull up jump shooter and doesn't go into traffic to attack the rim. I'm not going to do the research, but I wonder if Pistol can come up with someone who played regular minutes with fewer FTA per game last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJHawk Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If another spot opens, I'm hoping for a full court press on Lagerld Vick. He recently pulled out of the draft without a landing spot at KU. He would dominate in the A10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: One of the strangest stats I have ever seen comes with our new Graduate Transfer, 9 free throw attempts in 608 minutes, over 28 games. That is 1 FTA every 3 games, or 1 FTA in every 68 minutes of action. This suggests that he is a pure pull up jump shooter and doesn't go into traffic to attack the rim. I'm not going to do the research, but I wonder if Pistol can come up with someone who played regular minutes with fewer FTA per game last year. This is using a database (Real GM) that excludes limited time players so should work for the question (all the players with low FTA totals per minute are guards): The lowest FT per Minute out of the 2000+ players is Dillon Avare (Eastern Kentucky) 2-2FTs in 560 mins. Tum Tum Nairn of Michigan St. is 3rd with 5 FTs in 586 minutes but is included as I wanted to write Tum Tum. Wiley is 19th but the order seems to be FTA per game (I cannot directly rank the FT per minute) HoosierPal likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, TJHawk said: If another spot opens, I'm hoping for a full court press on Lagerld Vick. He recently pulled out of the draft without a landing spot at KU. He would dominate in the A10. i always enjoy your patronizing suggestions that let us know that even the kansas walkons would be billiken stars. this guy is obviously more than a walkon, but still if he was all that good, why wouldnt self get him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, TJHawk said: If another spot opens, I'm hoping for a full court press on Lagerld Vick. He recently pulled out of the draft without a landing spot at KU. He would dominate in the A10. Wow, I didn't realize that was the case. So Kansas wouldn't take him back? Vick can play, he will likely have a lot of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 just read through all that.... g'head and towel me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJHawk Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Roy when I said that I was correct. It was one of the low points in SLU basketball. Rick Majerus obviously changed that. I saw Kwamain Mitchell his freshman year and realized Majerus was recruiting different level players. Jordair is one of my favorite players to watch ever. Travis Ford is recruiting at a higher level as well. KU wanted Gordon and Ford got him. Vick got caught in a numbers crunch. KU has K.J. Lawson, Quentin Grimes, Charlie Moore, Devon Dotson, Marcus Garrett at the guard position. Vick wouldn't get a lot of playing time and would look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: just read through all that.... g'head and towel me joe_davola and NextYearBill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: One of the strangest stats I have ever seen comes with our new Graduate Transfer, 9 free throw attempts in 608 minutes, over 28 games. That is 1 FTA every 3 games, or 1 FTA in every 68 minutes of action. This suggests that he is a pure pull up jump shooter and doesn't go into traffic to attack the rim. I'm not going to do the research, but I wonder if Pistol can come up with someone who played regular minutes with fewer FTA per game last year. 1 hour ago, kwyjibo said: This is using a database (Real GM) that excludes limited time players so should work for the question (all the players with low FTA totals per minute are guards): The lowest FT per Minute out of the 2000+ players is Dillon Avare (Eastern Kentucky) 2-2FTs in 560 mins. Tum Tum Nairn of Michigan St. is 3rd with 5 FTs in 586 minutes but is included as I wanted to write Tum Tum. Wiley is 19th but the order seems to be FTA per game (I cannot directly rank the FT per minute) Thanks for doing the research, kwyjibo. I didn't feel like doing the homework assignment HoosierPal gave me. He took 5.3 shots per game at Maryland, 3.5 (66%) of which were from the perimeter. He's just not going to draw many fouls if that's where his shots are coming from. However, part of the impetus for his transfer was that he wanted to get more involved offensively, to prove himself as a ball handler and playmaker and show a more complete all-around game. Hopefully that's exactly what he is able to do here, and he feels like he's able to show his potential. HoosierPal likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Unless SLU makes a run at the tournament, having multiple top level talent at Slu competing against each other for playing time will be a tough get for Ford. I think we are at our peak talent right now. I only say that if players are asking out due to the incoming grad transfers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Why should an incoming recruit opt out because of a grad-transfer recruit who's going to be there only his freshman year? Whatever school you go to, there are going to be players ahead of you in class. If not, and they're all freshmen like yourself, your team is likely to be rather awful. Having a senior at your position is better than having a sophomore in front of you at your position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Is it possible they want one of the incoming freshman to redshirt and that freshman doesn't like the idea? I know it has been said on here that redshirts are useless for the players but don't they still happen? Just throwing ideas out there. NextYearBill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Pistol said: Yeah, I'm operating under the assumption he gets a second medical redshirt. He has applied for one, and I don't see why he wouldn't get it. We never got an announcement about Jermaine Bishop, either. I figure I just have to go with the best information I have, and make the most reasonable assumptions. Of course I'll update as soon as there's any news. you da man keep up good work you do for us here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Can bob tell us when will we know the roster? Will it be when summer school starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Can bob tell us when will we know the roster? Will it be when summer school starts? No, he can’t. Quit asking. ChangeOfPace, Box and Won and billikenfan05 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Wonder when we find out who won't be on the Bills roster next year? slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Schasz said: Wonder when we find out who won't be on the Bills roster next year? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, Schasz said: Wonder when we find out who won't be on the Bills roster next year? Well, maybe someone who is on campus can tell us which of the frosh are on campus. Understand CG is present. Have not heard if MP, FT, IG, DJ, or KH have arrived. And no announcement on KH signing a Letter of Intent. That is a bit strange. Would have expected it to be in by now. Surprised if CG is the only one moved in, since the first session summer classes started 5-21-18. Next session starts 6-18-18 so assuming those frosh who will be on the team will be on campus by then. But that is 2 weeks, long time to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schasz Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Until someone in the know says that Welmer is 100% healthy you'd wonder why he could be counted on the Bills 2018-19 roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Well, maybe someone who is on campus can tell us which of the frosh are on campus. Understand CG is present. Have not heard if MP, FT, IG, DJ, or KH have arrived. And no announcement on KH signing a Letter of Intent. That is a bit strange. Would have expected it to be in by now. Surprised if CG is the only one moved in, since the first session summer classes started 5-21-18. Next session starts 6-18-18 so assuming those frosh who will be on the team will be on campus by then. But that is 2 weeks, long time to wait. Final date for signing an LOI was May 16th it looks like so I believe Hankton will just sign a financial aid agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Pearson deleted his SLU pinned tweet and other SLU info from his profile majerus mojo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Pearson deleted his SLU pinned tweet and other SLU info from his profile I had a feeling when Bob said “recruit the area” and slu signed KC that it might be Mickey. Think he could be really good. Wonder what happened, if speculation is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Pearson deleted his SLU pinned tweet and other SLU info from his profile That makes sense. Unless Thor had a change of heart about coming over to play college, somebody who signed in the early period made the most sense and Bob said it wasn't Gordon and I would've been surprised if it was Thatch. Disappointing, was looking forward to seeing him but as others have said, there isn't a recruit signed that doesn't have the chance to be a solid contributor. Will help balance out the class some though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Pearson deleted his SLU pinned tweet and other SLU info from his profile This speculation is accurate. Regardless, I’m a big believer in this roster. I think this is the highest level of talent I’ve seen in Billiken Blue in 35+ years. BillikenBoy10 and brianstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010andBeyond Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Strange, was looking forward to seeing what he could do. However, I think there is a good chance Gordon was and is the only freshman that will see significant minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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