brianstl Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I feel bad for Welmer, the guy needs to stop playing for his own good. He will probably appreciate being able to put weight on his foot without weight when he is 40. I’m not crushed because I never really expected him to play in the first place. Been down this road twice before with him. cheeseman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, brianstl said: I feel bad for Welmer, the guy needs to stop playing for his own good. He will probably appreciate being able to put weight on his foot without weight pain when he is 40. I’m not crushed because I never really expected him to play in the first place. Been down this road twice before with him. I'm guessing this is what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, kmbilliken said: 3 in one day and the season hasn't started. So we are down to nine scholarship players. We have our rotation. The problem with this is that two injuries during the season and we are at 7 damn players yet again. People shouldn’t be minimizing these losses (yes, I know Jacobs and Hankton aren’t necessarily out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Jacobs was waiting for some class work if I remember correctly and it was completed late this summer. I guess the NCAA is just slow in stamping the paperwork - hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Jacobs was waiting for some class work if I remember correctly and it was completed late this summer. I guess the NCAA is just slow in stamping the paperwork - hopefully. Remember when it took half of a season for the NCAA to decide what to do with a pass/fail class that Cody Ellis took in Australia? That was neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 If Jacobs played for UK or UNC he would have been cleared last June. I agree Santos is the one that hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I’d say Welmer needs to go on the Femi John memorial scholarship, but I think he wouldn’t be eligible for that because he has or is about the graduate. It’s in his best post graduate educational interests to try to continue his career at SLU so he can get many degrees. That’s a tough spot for Ford. Effectively needs to launch the guy if he doesn’t believe he’s ever going to be healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, JMM28 said: I’d say Welmer needs to go on the Femi John memorial scholarship, but I think he wouldn’t be eligible for that because he has or is about the graduate. Welmer graduated with a marketing degree this past May, so he is likely a summer and fall into some sort of graduate program (I would assume MBA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, moytoy12 said: Yep. But it's reasonable to believe the Head Coach when he says a player is 100%. I know it's crazy, but Ford likely had better insight than any of us MBMs. This is just crazy talk moytoy12 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, moytoy12 said: Yep. But it's reasonable to believe the Head Coach when he says a player is 100%. I know it's crazy, but Ford likely had better insight than any of us MBMs. I get all of my reliable info from TGloryTDays 1985. moytoy12 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010andBeyond Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 PSA: Welmer is a Jim Crews recruit. Carry on with your regularly scheduled excitement about the season. majerus mojo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 11 hours ago, JMM28 said: I’d say Welmer needs to go on the Femi John memorial scholarship, but I think he wouldn’t be eligible for that because he has or is about the graduate. It’s in his best post graduate educational interests to try to continue his career at SLU so he can get many degrees. That’s a tough spot for Ford. Effectively needs to launch the guy if he doesn’t believe he’s ever going to be healthy. If schollies are renewed each year then why could you not simply not renew Welmer. He has gotten 2 degrees what more could he expect from the school. Here is a thought keep him around as a graduate asst if he wants to go get another degree. He is starting to sound like someone's brother-in-law that is still living in your basement while he completes that ever elusive 3rd degree. I know he has been hurt but really he needs to just move on with his life - hanging out with 18-19 year old is not a good look at his age. Glorydays2013 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, cheeseman said: If schollies are renewed each year then why could you not simply not renew Welmer. He has gotten 2 degrees what more could he expect from the school. Here is a thought keep him around as a graduate asst if he wants to go get another degree. He is starting to sound like someone's brother-in-law that is still living in your basement while he completes that ever elusive 3rd degree. I know he has been hurt but really he needs to just move on with his life - hanging out with 18-19 year old is not a good look at his age. Probably the same situation as a coach not blocking transfers at times...the PR hit would hurt recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, cheeseman said: If schollies are renewed each year then why could you not simply not renew Welmer. He has gotten 2 degrees what more could he expect from the school. Here is a thought keep him around as a graduate asst if he wants to go get another degree. He is starting to sound like someone's brother-in-law that is still living in your basement while he completes that ever elusive 3rd degree. I know he has been hurt but really he needs to just move on with his life - hanging out with 18-19 year old is not a good look at his age. Isabell is 23. Wiley and Bess are 22. I'm guessing Foreman is 22/23 also. What is the magic age when we kick guys out of the program so that it doesn't look bad? rgbilliken, slufanskip and Littlebill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, cheeseman said: If schollies are renewed each year then why could you not simply not renew Welmer. He has gotten 2 degrees what more could he expect from the school. Here is a thought keep him around as a graduate asst if he wants to go get another degree. He is starting to sound like someone's brother-in-law that is still living in your basement while he completes that ever elusive 3rd degree. I know he has been hurt but really he needs to just move on with his life - hanging out with 18-19 year old is not a good look at his age. Wtf is this post. He's trying to play basketball at the college level cause I'm sure it's been a dream of his since he was a little kid. We should be praising this kid for working so hard to come back and try to contribute after all he has been through. Not diminishing him for hanging out with his younger teammates. This is such a terrible post. philliken, slufanskip, majerus mojo and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Welmer should be a grad assistant at this point. Maybe the kid just liked getting rides around campus in a golf cart. Myself and others will feel like idiots though if Stu overblown this. I doubt Ford wants to keep Welmer another year if he cant play this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheeseman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 8 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Isabell is 23. Wiley and Bess are 22. I'm guessing Foreman is 22/23 also. What is the magic age when we kick guys out of the program so that it doesn't look bad? Those two are grad transfers. Welder has 2 years of eligibility left - at least that is what has been posted here. Those two will be done this year. Welmer has 2 more years after this one. Apples to oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Those two are grad transfers. Welder has 2 years of eligibility left - at least that is what has been posted here. Those two will be done this year. Welmer has 2 more years after this one. Apples to oranges No it's not. You said it was a bad look to have older players hanging with 18-19 year olds. You either say the 23 is okay, or you say Isabell is too old to hang around the young players. Same with Bess at 22 and Foreman. State an age where you want to make the cut. Ridiculous comment on your part. Are you for age discrimination or against it at the college basketball level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, johnbj14 said: Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, johnbj14 said: I read that to suggest that he’s deciding whether to have surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hopefully a few quality bigs hit the transfer market at semester break. We could use one next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old guy Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: I read that to suggest that he’s deciding whether to have surgery. Please remember that there is a limited number of surgical procedures that can be done to fix a recurrent problem. The greater the number of recurrences, the more difficult the surgery, and the more unlikely it becomes to obtain full recovery. Since we do not know, and have never known, the nature of the recurrent injury, that is all that can be said at this time. He has a lot to think about if he is considering a 3rd surgical procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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