Littlebill Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I'm somewhat surprised at the lack of respect for Mr. Johnson. Coach Ford stated on a radio interview that he was surprised and disappointed that Johnson was leaving. You brought Wiley into the conversation. First, BILLIKEN NATION truly hopes that his current injury is short term, and that he is fully available for 38 to 40 games this season. (Yes that puts us into a deep NCAA run.) However, I don't know why you are comparing Wiley to Johnson. Yes they both are snipers. That is what Wiley was brought in to do, and he certainly needs to continue or improve his outside shooting to be as valuable as Johnson from deep. Johnson had range from maybe 30 feet. Coach Ford compared Wiley's range to Johnson's on an interview. Let's call this a push on the two players. But, Wiley only shot 9 FT last season. NINE. That's an average game for Bess. I have no idea why he doesn't get to the line. He made only 59 trips in 3 years at Maryland. They do foul in the Big Ten. This is really a mystery, but free throws are opportunities missed. I don't need to reiterate what Johnson did at the line. Wiley had only 51 rebounds last season. Johnson was at 127. So Wiley doesn't appear to crash the boards. Perhaps he was told not to. I don't know. And Wiley only had 4 blocks last season, compared to 21 for Johnson. So he isn't a rim protector either. So I'm not seeing what you are seeing. It needs to be seen how good a defender he is in Ford's system. Yes, I'm glad Dion Wiley is a Billiken. But Jalen Johnson would have been a welcome asset for this season's team. Are you related to Jalen? "Yes I am glad that player left" - No coach ever. HP is mad that a three point shooter doesn't take FTs. Welp. Frankly, I am unsure if you watched any games last year. If so, do you watch when the other team has the ball? Did you watch Jalen look like a turnstile last year trying to guard guards? Why do you use total numbers instead of per game or per 40mins? So wild. "21 blocks" lol What role do you think Johnson would have on this team? Would he have been a welcome asset taking a schollie for two more years as the 10th man while we could add someone like Hargrove, Collins, or a GT? I certainly don't always agree with GloryRavs and perhaps he's being a bit blunt on this issue (I didn't read you two's argument but I'm sure he's being unreasonable), but surely you don't think Johnson would have been a rotation guy on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -the board specializes in these and certain posters seem to be involved in most of them Do Ravs and Gloydays ever argue with each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Glorydays2013 said: Theres some guys who shoot 95% FT and 50% 3pointers at the rec. You should probably go recruit them because based on your logic that is what makes a player good. wow we probably should recruit those guys. personally i dont believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, billikenfan05 said: Having worked in sports and sponsorship sales, it's possible that Learfield was able to sell sponsorships for this event separately. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: wow we probably should recruit those guys. personally i dont believe it. The point is there are so many elements to the game. And yes there are very amateur players with very high ft percentage. Doesn’t mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: Theres some guys who shoot 95% FT and 50% 3pointers at the rec. You should probably go recruit them because based on your logic that is what makes a player good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Littlebill said: Are you related to Jalen? "Yes I am glad that player left" - No coach ever. HP is mad that a three point shooter doesn't take FTs. Welp. Frankly, I am unsure if you watched any games last year. If so, do you watch when the other team has the ball? Did you watch Jalen look like a turnstile last year trying to guard guards? Why do you use total numbers instead of per game or per 40mins? So wild. "21 blocks" lol What role do you think Johnson would have on this team? Would he have been a welcome asset taking a schollie for two more years as the 10th man while we could add someone like Hargrove, Collins, or a GT? I certainly don't always agree with GloryRavs and perhaps he's being a bit blunt on this issue (I didn't read you two's argument but I'm sure he's being unreasonable), but surely you don't think Johnson would have been a rotation guy on this team. Well you said exactly what I said so I’m probably not being unreasonable to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/24/dr-tom-podiatrist-who-made-a-record-2750-consecutive-free-throws-dies-at-94/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e1b1d9866491 Hoosier Pal will get this guy back from the grave because he shoots better FT than anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Glorydays2013 said: The point is there are so many elements to the game. And yes there are very amateur players with very high ft percentage. Doesn’t mean anything so now it is just high percentage not the astronomical rick barry like numbers you made up earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I'm too lazy to go back and quote the post this is referring to but high school recruiting rankings don't really have relevance to a grad transfer. DW may have been a top 50 recruit, but that isn't what Travis was evaluating him, and his fit on this roster, off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 JMM28, NextYearBill and Ironbills like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 The season can't get here quick enough. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: Theres some guys who shoot 95% FT and 50% 3pointers at the rec. You should probably go recruit them because based on your logic that is what makes a player good. Travis Ford had a career 3FG% of 42.2 and a career FT% of 88.5. WE HAVE REC PLAYERS THAT SHOOT BETTER THAN FORD!! Why hasn't Ford offered them? You are funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Travis Ford had a career 3FG% of 42.2 and a career FT% of 88.5. WE HAVE REC PLAYERS THAT SHOOT BETTER THAN FORD!! Why hasn't Ford offered them? You are funny. You should look up because the point is flying way over your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: You should look up because the point is flying way over your head obviously you outkicked your coverage on all of us. HoosierPal and Littlebill like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, ACE said: Do Ravs and Gloydays ever argue with each other? Perhaps some of you haven't noticed that it's only Glorydays now. The second account hasn't been used in a couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 JFC, we aren’t talking about Steph Curry. It is Jalen Johnson. The program will somehow manage to survive. slufan13 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, brianstl said: JFC, we aren’t talking about Steph Curry. It is Jalen Johnson. The program will somehow manage to survive. It isn’t even Steph Bartley. Box and Won likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Travis Ford had a career 3FG% of 42.2 and a career FT% of 88.5. WE HAVE REC PLAYERS THAT SHOOT BETTER THAN FORD!! Why hasn't Ford offered them? You are funny. Simon Rec hasn’t seen shooting like that since the last time I was a basketball camper. dlarry and HoosierPal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, brianstl said: It isn’t even Steph Bartley. No, but I'd say pretty close to Marcus Bartley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Last time I checked Jalen Johnson is playing for La Tech. Why are we discussing a Rajun Cajun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, slu72 said: Last time I checked Jalen Johnson is playing for La Tech. Why are we discussing a Rajun Cajun? Hoosier Pal thinks we wont be able to score next year without him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: Hoosier Pal thinks we wont be able to score next year without him You’re both being fuoking idiots. I would know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I once hit 3 3s in a row in the Greek League Playoffs. Payton Jacks switched off to guard me the next possession. I knew at that moment, I had officially made it in life. NextYearBill, SLU_Nick, slubillikens43 and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 this is a pretty bare bones write-up, but hey, we're pictured! (and yes, goodwin should be labeled as "step 1") https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/what-college-basketball-programs-are-going-to-make-the-jump-to-relevancycontender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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