bauman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: CAG didnt come to SLU to ride pine. Starts from day one I agree with you about CAG starting, but can you think about any previous Billiken team on which 4th and 5th year players like Santos and Foreman would not be starting? Gordon and French will be as good, and probably better, than any other A-10 teams' starting 4 and 5 spot players, but no one in this conference, or maybe any other conference, will have the depth we have sitting on the bench ready to sub in at the 2 big spots. No one! Edited July 17, 2018 by bauman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: CAG didnt come to SLU to ride pine. Starts from day one you're probably right, but not starting doesn't mean he'll ride the pine and this is more of a testament to the quality of the other two bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, SShoe said: you're probably right, but not starting doesn't mean he'll ride the pine and this is more of a testament to the quality of the other two bigs. I think CAG compliments French more than any of the other bigs. CAG frees him up more than foreman and especially santos can. My favorite part is french can spend a ton of energy, and replace him with another bully while he takes a breather. Last year french couldnt do what he wanted all the time because we had to make sure he didnt get tired nor any fouls. You gotta feel bad for other teams centers. Zink likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Pistol said: I think this is probably right: So that puts our "next 5" at: Wiley Jacobs Thatch Foreman Santos With clean up minutes from: Thor KC Welmer *TOWEL* Slu let the dogs out?, Zink and HenryB like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: So that puts our "next 5" at: Wiley Jacobs Thatch Foreman Santos With clean up minutes from: Thor KC Welmer *TOWEL* Wow, I’ve never seen the “next five”. That is ridiculous. Minus the 3 recent tournament teams, that lineup would probably beat any starting lineup this program has had the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Jacobs Thatch Willey Foreman Santos Thor KC Welmer That could still win some games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think some might be getting a tad overzealous on this team. cgeldmacher likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JMM28 said: I think some might be getting a tad overzealous on this team. nope. Billiken Rich and LindellWest like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, JMM28 said: I think some might be getting a tad overzealous on this team. Probably so. The talent is there. The size and toughness are there. We just have to hope they come together and play well as a unit. We should keep in mind that only four of these guys (Goodwin, French, Foreman, Bess) have played in actual games together, and that they were all new a season ago. There are going to be a couple bumps in the early going. If they're clicking by mid-season, though, look out. HoosierPal likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, JMM28 said: I think some might be getting a tad overzealous on this team. I think you need to get on our level. NextYearBill likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, RiseAndGrind said: I think you need to get on our level. I'm sure by mid January I will be playing soggy cracker with the rest of you RiseAndGrind likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 A reminder about the newcomers. https://www.a10talk.com/saint-louis-basketball-newcomer-primer/ There are 8 and that is a lot, so chemistry, roles, etc. will be a challenge. Also, even with the late additions, I'm still concerned about the shooting. But our depth, athleticism, rebounding, toughness should be tough to handle. Not sure I've ever been more excited about the start of a season. bauman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I'll be interested to see what lineups work best together. I actually think a guy like Wiley may fit in better with Goodwin and Bess even though Isabel is the superior player. Ford will have some very interesting lineups to play with early in the season brianstl and RUBillsFan like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, NextYearBill said: CAG didnt come to SLU to ride pine. Starts from day one I bet he comes off the bench the first few games. I think he bulls his way into the starting lineup by game 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I love how last year everyone fought me when I said JG would start and everyone went after me saying "starting is for HS, hes only a freshmen" etc and now on a stacked roster, everyone is saying Gordon is a for sure starter. He most likely is but our 6th and 7th men who I think will rotate starting is absolutely DW and Santos. 8 and 9 Foreman and Thatch. http://www.barttorvik.com/ T-Rank has us at 52 in the nation and first in the A-10. The team Jon compared us to, Nevada is ranked 7th in the nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Pistol said: Probably so. The talent is there. The size and toughness are there. We just have to hope they come together and play well as a unit. We should keep in mind that only four of these guys (Goodwin, French, Foreman, Bess) have played in actual games together, and that they were all new a season ago. There are going to be a couple bumps in the early going. If they're clicking by mid-season, though, look out. Even with early season bumps, I am confident in Travis' ability to smooth them out by conference play, based on what he's done the last couple years, with what he was dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, JMM28 said: I'm sure by mid January I will be playing soggy cracker with the rest of you majerus mojo and JMM28 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Thatch highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 35 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: I love how last year everyone fought me when I said JG would start and everyone went after me saying "starting is for HS, hes only a freshmen" etc and now on a stacked roster, everyone is saying Gordon is a for sure starter. He most likely is but our 6th and 7th men who I think will rotate starting is absolutely DW and Santos. 8 and 9 Foreman and Thatch. http://www.barttorvik.com/ T-Rank has us at 52 in the nation and first in the A-10. The team Jon compared us to, Nevada is ranked 7th in the nation you might want to go back and reread the board. my memory says most of us were saying goodwin would not only start, he'd be a star. there were only a few crewsplatt holdovers that didnt want goodwin in the starting lineup. question....when will you merge your names together and only post as one person? no one else is allowed to have multiple monikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Indeed most of us assumed JG started and played great. We were right then and most are saying same thing about Gordon this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: I'll be interested to see what lineups work best together. I actually think a guy like Wiley may fit in better with Goodwin and Bess even though Isabel is the superior player. Ford will have some very interesting lineups to play with early in the season I was thinking the same about Wiley and Goodwin. Tramaine is a really high usage rate player. Jordan was a reasonably high usage rate player last season and I would expect that to go up this season. They both will probably start, it will be interesting as you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, billiken_roy said: doesnt appear mike is excelling in writing and english classes at duquesne. I think it may be unfair to say that, Roy. There are many highly literate, college-educated Black Americans who code-switch to African American English Vernacular when communicating among other Black Americans. AAEV is a valid dialect with rules, syntax, grammar, and vocabulary, and Mike Lewis's tweet adhered to them. But when he goes for a job interview or speaks to the media, or whatever, he'll code switch to wider English. Frankly, it's little different from your decision to refrain from using capital letters unless you're writing something important. I be one a those bros who be knowin' how to code switch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: I think it may be unfair to say that, Roy. There are many highly literate, college-educated Black Americans who code-switch to African American English Vernacular when communicating among other Black Americans. AAEV is a valid dialect with rules, syntax, grammar, and vocabulary, and Mike Lewis's tweet adhered to them. But when he goes for a job interview or speaks to the media, or whatever, he'll code switch to wider English. Frankly, it's little different from your decision to refrain from using capital letters unless you're writing something important. I be one a those bros who be knowin' how to code switch! first time anyone has ever given me that defense. nice touch throwing my no caps at me. i like it. rgbilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Glorydays2013 said: I love how last year everyone fought me when I said JG would start and everyone went after me saying "starting is for HS, hes only a freshmen" etc and now on a stacked roster, everyone is saying Gordon is a for sure starter. He most likely is but our 6th and 7th men who I think will rotate starting is absolutely DW and Santos. 8 and 9 Foreman and Thatch. http://www.barttorvik.com/ T-Rank has us at 52 in the nation and first in the A-10. The team Jon compared us to, Nevada is ranked 7th in the nation You are moving the goal posts, TGloryTDays, The issue was not whether Goodwin would start, it was whether or not Ford PROMISED, GUARANTEED, he would start at POINT GUARD by simply showing up. No one questioned his ability. The issue was what Ford did or did not promise. You, nor any other poster, ever provided anything that said Ford guaranteed a starting Point Guard job to Goodwin or to anyone else. Goodwin earned his role last season through hard work at practice and during the games. Quality Is Job 1 and HenryB like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUAILMAN Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, bauman said: The true test of "new" interest will be once season tickets are opened up to new subscribers. New subscribers started getting emailed to come in and pick out seats no later than July 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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