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1 hour ago, CBFan said:

Did Lusk move on or get fired or as an assistant coach?

Rumor on the east side is that lusk has discussed the open mckendree job since mckendree ran the legend Harry Statham off earlier this month.

 

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8 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

Rumor on the east side is that lusk has discussed the open mckendree job since mckendree ran the legend Harry Statham off earlier this month.

 

What??? I didn't hear that.  How do you fire the all time winningest coach in basketball history?

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Penny and Brown are going to compete with Duke and Kentucky for recruits. How they play on the floor will be anyone's guess. I kinda like that they're dropping any pretense of running a clean program before the new coaching staff even takes over.

Tubby was having trouble recruiting the level of talent that Memphis fans are used to. He has been making comments that indicate the game has started to pass him by. That said, he put up a better record this season than you'd expect for a guy everyone wanted to fire.

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3 minutes ago, thetorch said:

What??? I didn't hear that.  How do you fire the all time winningest coach in basketball history?

Apparently their AD and president met with him and said it was time to go in another direction.  My brother who played for him in the 80's says Harry was not happy about it and was completely taken by surprise.

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With Marty Simmons fired at Evansville, top name on their list is former Evansville resident, IU icon and [dead] assistant Calbert Cheaney.  They only paid Simmons $250k so there is some concern they can't afford a big name assistant from a P5 school.  They talk Dane Fife but don't think they can swing it.    Some of the faculty at Evansville believe they can't compete on the national level and need to downsize to a lower division.  That will be an interesting side note to follow.

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53 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

With Marty Simmons fired at Evansville, top name on their list is former Evansville resident, IU icon and [dead] assistant Calbert Cheaney.  They only paid Simmons $250k so there is some concern they can't afford a big name assistant from a P5 school.  They talk Dane Fife but don't think they can swing it.    Some of the faculty at Evansville believe they can't compete on the national level and need to downsize to a lower division.  That will be an interesting side note to follow.

I guess the same conversation is going on at LaSalle from what was reported earlier.

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53 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

With Marty Simmons fired at Evansville, top name on their list is former Evansville resident, IU icon and [dead] assistant Calbert Cheaney.  They only paid Simmons $250k so there is some concern they can't afford a big name assistant from a P5 school.  They talk Dane Fife but don't think they can swing it.    Some of the faculty at Evansville believe they can't compete on the national level and need to downsize to a lower division.  That will be an interesting side note to follow.

Evansville has to put more money in the program to compete. Simmons did damn well with the budget of a Chicago st. In the valley.

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On 3/14/2018 at 8:59 PM, billiken_roy said:

Apparently their AD and president met with him and said it was time to go in another direction.  My brother who played for him in the 80's says Harry was not happy about it and was completely taken by surprise.

Mck alum here - His win totals for last six seasons (since we moved to D2): 7, 9, 11, 13, 9, 12.

Not good enough. Players were never good enough and he was never good enough in-game to compete in GLVC in this decade. I know the townies and metro east bball crowd loved him, but he was at the end of his (well-earned, albeit at a lower level) leash. No one was going to games, and putting a sh!tty product out there doesn't help things.

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23 minutes ago, majerus mojo said:

Eight Pittsburgh men’s basketball players will receive their release to transfer elsewhere today, sources told ESPN. Story coming.

 

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Having zero knowledge about that roster, is there anyone that we could be remotely interested in?

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6 hours ago, Littlebill said:

Mck alum here - His win totals for last six seasons (since we moved to D2): 7, 9, 11, 13, 9, 12.

Not good enough. Players were never good enough and he was never good enough in-game to compete in GLVC in this decade. I know the townies and metro east bball crowd loved him, but he was at the end of his (well-earned, albeit at a lower level) leash. No one was going to games, and putting a sh!tty product out there doesn't help things.

Statham is old and probably wasn't prepared for the jump to D-2.  NAIA had really plummeted talent wise in the last 15 years.  The switch to NAIA to D-2 is similar to D-2 to D-1, especially when you join a league like the GLVC, akin to the Big 12 or Big 10 in D-2.  Look at all the support Lindenwood throws at their basketball team, they are still struggling at the D-2 level.  Statham's record was not that bad considering.

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6 minutes ago, thetorch said:

Statham is old and probably wasn't prepared for the jump to D-2.  NAIA had really plummeted talent wise in the last 15 years.  The switch to NAIA to D-2 is similar to D-2 to D-1, especially when you join a league like the GLVC, akin to the Big 12 or Big 10 in D-2.  Look at all the support Lindenwood throws at their basketball team, they are still struggling at the D-2 level.  Statham's record was not that bad considering.

And that's the point I'm trying to make. The AD wasn't wrong to get rid of Statham, and gave him a really long leash to get something started at D2. Not good enough at this level

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On ‎3‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 8:46 PM, thetorch said:

Brown was always known as a player's coach.  He was very young when he took his first HC job and delegated fine tuning to assts.  His MO is to take veteran teams, rearrange depth charts, get the players happy and get more wins.  He's really poor at developing young talent and when left to his own devices his coaching style is pretty antiquated (ask the 04 dream team, what coach messes up a dream team?).  He's always gotten results but in college he played dirty and his NBA coaching record is sporadic, he does have the Pistons title, but again he is good at pointing a veteran squad in the direction, not really teaching and making teams better.  

What about the complete turn around he orchestrated at SMU?

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51 minutes ago, David King said:

What about the complete turn around he orchestrated at SMU?

Nothing to do with coaching really.  Those teams were poorly coached actually.  Got a couple big transfers, none of his top ranked recruits really panned out but they were good to great for the downgraded league they were in.  His initial push wasn't sustainable and he got out.  Look at SMU now.  Ford did basically the same thing here, except at SMU there is no Sit 2.  This team as constructed would have been as good as SMU's team a couple years ago.  I think Ford's good but a big initial turnaround by a known coach is not much of an outlier these days.  Doing ti for 4-6 years is.

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3 hours ago, thetorch said:

Nothing to do with coaching really.  Those teams were poorly coached actually.  Got a couple big transfers, none of his top ranked recruits really panned out but they were good to great for the downgraded league they were in.  His initial push wasn't sustainable and he got out.  Look at SMU now.  Ford did basically the same thing here, except at SMU there is no Sit 2.  This team as constructed would have been as good as SMU's team a couple years ago.  I think Ford's good but a big initial turnaround by a known coach is not much of an outlier these days.  Doing ti for 4-6 years is.

Guaranteed playing time is a heck of a recruiting tool.

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2 hours ago, johnbj14 said:

 

 

May the coach poaching begin from the bigger programs that unfairly get picked for the NCAA tournament and keep out the little guy whose coach will be poached by them when they have success and the players cannot transfer without penalty when a coach is poached.  The NCAA thinks this is fair only because of the NCAA bottom line is money.

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