slufan13 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 The last exam of the fall semester ends at 3:50 today. Grades are final Thursday at 5:00 pm. When are we allowed to get an answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, slufan13 said: The last exam of the fall semester ends at 3:50 today. Grades are final Thursday at 5:00 pm. When are we allowed to get an answer? I have until Thursday to finish grading? Fudge this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: I have until Thursday to finish grading? this. hey how come he gets to say F--k ? That's not fckng fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, slufan13 said: The last exam of the fall semester ends at 3:50 today. Grades are final Thursday at 5:00 pm. When are we allowed to get an answer? No no no. SLU is handling this really well. LindellWest likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, LindellWest said: hey how come he gets to say ? That's not fair Happy? 2 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: I have until Thursday to finish grading? Fudge this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, SluSignGuy said: Happy? not really, kinda liked it. If there was ever a thread that needed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Wendelprof, If you think Anna Kratky and her crew care one whit about how the boys resume their lives after this decision, you haven't been paying attention. teamarete likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, slufan13 said: The last exam of the fall semester ends at 3:50 today. Grades are final Thursday at 5:00 pm. When are we allowed to get an answer? When does the semester officially "end"? Whenever that is, my guess is that if there's no resolution then, nothing happens until the start of the next semester, unless the players decide to leave school and make this a moot issue. I've brought this up before. The fact that 2 of the players are traveling to road games is a significant issue to me. If the players are cleared, the traveling suggests that the writing was on the wall as to the facts of this, and this should've been resolved a while ago. If they're found guilty of misconduct, why were they traveling in the first place? You can put this on the outside investigators for the delay if you want, but I think slu bungled something on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, LindellWest said: not really, kinda liked it. If there was ever a thread that needed it Well fuck...there is no pleasing you is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, SluSignGuy said: Well ...there is no pleasing you is there now this deserves a "good post" reaction!!! billslasttermdropout likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendelprof Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: When does the semester officially "end"? Whenever that is, my guess is that if there's no resolution then, nothing happens until the start of the next semester, unless the players decide to leave school and make this a moot issue. I've brought this up before. The fact that the 3 players are traveling to road games is a significant issue to me. If the players are cleared, the traveling suggests that the writing was on the wall as to the facts of this, and this should've been resolved a while ago. If they're found guilty of misconduct, why were they traveling in the first place? You can put this on the outside investigators for the delay if you want, but I think slu bungled something on this issue. Just because classes end that is not the end of the semester administratively. The university administrative offices typically close down for the week between Christmas and New Year's Day but otherwise the university is open for business as usual administratively. I assume at this point the issue of how the situation should be handled is an administrative issue. I would assume and expect the process to continue over the semester break. And I agree with Cowboy's clarification of my comments. The university really should do everything possible to decide this matter in time for the players to transfer if that is what they decide to do after the matter is concluded. Once the investigation was completed, whatever the length and complexity of the matter, I would sure hope everything possible is being done to decide the matter in a timely manner so the players can move on/transfer if that is what they decide to do. There was the comment period following the filing of the investigator's report, and no doubt there will be an appeal period following the hearing officer's decision, but I would hope that all of that could be completed in a timely manner to permit the students to then make their own decision about what they want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I'm convinced the school wants the players to transfer so that they don't have to make a decision. billiken_roy likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I'm convinced the school wants the players to transfer so that they don't have to make a decision. I wouldn't put it past SLU to do this, but this would be the most spineless move SLU could make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: I wouldn't put it past SLU to do this, but this would be the most spineless move SLU could make. Which makes it seem all the more likely to me. DeSmetBilliken and billikenfan05 like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If no decision by the start of conference Rosenblum needs to act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Billboy1 said: If no decision by the start of conference Rosenblum needs to act. If there is no decision by the start of conference, the kids would be better off just transferring so they can get on with their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, SluSignGuy said: I have until Thursday to finish grading? Fudge this. Give them all an A. We know the study of politics can’ t be a science. SluSignGuy likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: If there is no decision by the start of conference, the kids would be better off just transferring so they can get on with their lives. would not be mad at them at all. this has been the most god damn ridiculous BS I've ever had the displeasure to concern myself with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: If there is no decision by the start of conference, the kids would be better off just transferring so they can get on with their lives. You have a point, but I'd really hate for this to be how this ends. SLU should not be rewarded for inaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Agree kids need to be able to move on but SLU administration needs to be taught an expensive lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendelprof Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, slufan13 said: I'm convinced the school wants the players to transfer so that they don't have to make a decision. I believe the university has to make a decision whether the students stay or transfer, but if the students transfer there will be less awareness of any decision. So your point is still valid. But the decision to hire arguably the best investigator out there makes me think the university assumed it would have to make a decision and defend it (or at least give the appearance of defending it since they technically can't comment on it). They've invested quite a bit of money in the investigation process. If their hope from the beginning was that the players would transfer I doubt they would have spent that much money on the investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Wendelprof said: I believe the university has to make a decision whether the students stay or transfer, but if the students transfer there will be less awareness of any decision. So your point is still valid. But the decision to hire arguably the best investigator out there makes me think the university assumed it would have to make a decision and defend it (or at least give the appearance of defending it since they technically can't comment on it). They've invested quite a bit of money in the investigation process. If their hope from the beginning was that the players would transfer I doubt they would have spent that much money on the investigation. If the players transfer, the only thing that will matter from the investigation will be if there were any institutional issues that SLU must address. If the players leave, they’re no longer students and the university can’t do anything to them. What are you gonna do? Tell a former student that they can’t come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, DeSmetBilliken said: If the players transfer, the only thing that will matter from the investigation will be if there were any institutional issues that SLU must address. If the players leave, they’re no longer students and the university can’t do anything to them. What are you gonna do? Tell a former student that they can’t come back? Willie Reed knows about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendelprof Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: If the players transfer, the only thing that will matter from the investigation will be if there were any institutional issues that SLU must address. If the players leave, they’re no longer students and the university can’t do anything to them. What are you gonna do? Tell a former student that they can’t come back? I don't know if it is a matter of federal law or state law, but some universities take the position that if the Title IX complaint results in a finding of misconduct and punishment, a note that the student was disciplined for violating the student handbook is put on the student's transcript. You are correct, as a practical matter the university can't do anything to the student, but they can do something - and may be legally required to do something - to the student's SLU transcript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappy96 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Saw this earlier. Not the news I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts