AnkielBreakers Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, ARon said: Winter Break gives everyone an excuse for being unavailable to the media once the final word is out. Winter Break also helps avoid protests by women’s groups on campus, and could diffuse backlash from the student body. It can cut both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The discretionary interim suspensions have cost SLU 2 victories to date, Detroit Mercy (which played SLU without its Head Coach) without any reasonable doubt, and Western Michigan, more than likely (by SLU's Title IX preponderance of the evidence, 50.1%, more likely than not standard). Future non-conference winnable games at risk, if the suspensions stay in place, are Murray State tonight, at Oregon State (in Portland) on Dec. 16, Campbell on Dec. 19, and SEMO on Dec. 22. The bottom line is every game SLU plays, absent its full roster, is at risk. SLU's average game attendance for the 6 home games played is 5,835. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaLBErt Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You guys think AD will play tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, TaLBErt said: You guys think AD will play tonight? Um, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaLBErt Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Um, no. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: Exactly, if the attorneys are this bad with basic grammar, I can only imagine what nightmares may come. That wasn’t the exact quote. Roy left out the word “story”. Should read, “how NOT credible the accusers story is AT ALL.” even so, still poor grammar and it’s missing an apostrophe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: Winter Break also helps avoid protests by women’s groups on campus, and could diffuse backlash from the student body. It can cut both ways. At this point, I doubt all the players come back. If they do, it is the best recruiting job Ford has done yet (in getting them all to stay). Dragging this out until Winter break significantly increases the risk that the players leave the school while filing a large lawsuit. So much for justice....(and to be clear the kids should be severely punished if they committed sexual assault and delaying that punishment is unjust as well). I guess the school can explain how they could not control any of this and they turned it over to outside lawyers who they could not be held to any expectations about timeliness or anything else. I am less optimistic that plan would work. billiken_roy likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, SLU_Lax said: At this point, I doubt all the players come back. If they do, it is the best recruiting job Ford has done yet (in getting them all to stay). -great point, I totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusam Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 If they leave are they going to be immediately eligible where they transfer? I doubt it and two of them have already used their redshirt year. If they are cleared I think they will stay. I wonder if Graves will be suspended for future games since he wasn't eligible to play this semester? If he is he might be better off waiting to play until next year and have 3 full years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappy96 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 This thread like Billfan7 likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, slusam said: If they leave are they going to be immediately eligible where they transfer? I doubt it and two of them have already used their redshirt year. If they are cleared I think they will stay. I wonder if Graves will be suspended for future games since he wasn't eligible to play this semester? If he is he might be better off waiting to play until next year and have 3 full years left. Assuming academics ok any level but D1 immediately eligible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, billiken_roy said: Assuming academics ok any level but D1 immediately eligible Just to note that Dez Wells was expelled from Xavier as a result for violating their Student Conduct rules. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2014/04/24/dez-wells-xavier-settle-lawsuit/8111709/ He appealed later to the NCAA and was made immediately eligible to play at Maryland without sitting out a year. Dez later reached an out-of-court settlement of his lawsuit against Xavier. So there is some precedent for players not being forced to sit out an additional year although in this case Dez did not choose to leave, but was forced to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I don’t think ad will transfer, will probably leave for g league or overseas. Bishop might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If the players are cleared to play soon, is there any upside to letting Graves just sit the rest of the year and then be a sophomore with 3 full years in the same class as Goodwin, and French? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, STL Hoops Insider said: If the players are cleared to play soon, is there any upside to letting Graves just sit the rest of the year and then be a sophomore with 3 full years in the same class as Goodwin, and French? In my opinion, with the S2 three + Welmer, you like your chances in conference play + conference tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 NH likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: agreed.... the rest of the A10 should have a funeral for the old French too... The beast is forever awoken now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 In other news, as of today at 5:00 pm, the investigation is completely in SLU's hands. They can make a ruling at any time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Also credit to @billikenfan05 for making #FreeThe3 a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Also credit to @billikenfan05 for making #FreeThe3 a thing Fluent in Jeterese. Re2pect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, slufan13 said: In other news, as of today at 5:00 pm, the investigation is completely in SLU's hands. They can make a ruling at any time now. I'm sure they will handle this with the speed of a herd of turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, slufan13 said: Too bad he was talking about the Alabama special election. rgbilliken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 hours ago, SLU_Lax said: Just to note that Dez Wells was expelled from Xavier as a result for violating their Student Conduct rules. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2014/04/24/dez-wells-xavier-settle-lawsuit/8111709/ He appealed later to the NCAA and was made immediately eligible to play at Maryland without sitting out a year. Dez later reached an out-of-court settlement of his lawsuit against Xavier. So there is some precedent for players not being forced to sit out an additional year although in this case Dez did not choose to leave, but was forced to leave. Dez Wells was treated far worse then these players have been, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, slufan13 said: Also credit to @billikenfan05 for making #FreeThe3 a thing Excuse me if I sound like old guy, but I really like #FreeThe3 because it works on two levels. There are 3 players who are being forced to sit and also these players happen to be some of our best 3 point shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, moytoy12 said: Too bad he was talking about the Alabama special election. Can we please stay away from politics please edit this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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