Class Record Watch - 2017-2018

[Pistol]

28 games played, and just a few to go (31 scheduled games, 32 minimum with the A10 Tournament).

-Hasahn French is now the all-time leader in blocks for the freshman class, with 53 on the season. He's also now alone in 6th on the all-class season blocks record, and should hit 4th without too much trouble (Vouyoukas is in 4th and 5th, with 57 and 55). He is currently on pace for #7 in freshman rebounding average, at 6.8 per game (he'd be 6th if Goodwin didn't average 7.5 this season). He's already in the top 10 in total rebounds with 184 - he and Goodwin have bumped Winfield and Yarbrough - and should finish 3rd. If his current percentage holds, he'd be 7th in FG percentage with .532, bumping 10th-place Dwayne Evans (.495).

-Jalen Johnson's 3-point percentage has bounced back into the sophomore top 10 (.360 is 10th, he's at .366, which would tie him for 8th). He's close to the total 3-pointers list, with 37 and needing 39. With 15 blocks, he needs three more to tie Evans and Bonner for 10th. His FT percentage is .754, which leave him a little shy of Harry Rogers in 10th (.766).

-Javon Bess' scoring needs to pick up significantly for him to crack the top 10 lists (Bonner is 10th at 15.5 and Bess sits at 13.0 currently, while Kevin Lisch's 453 points are a little out of reach unless he picks it up. He will probably come up short of the steals list, which is a tight bunch - 44 would tie him for 10th, and 49 would put him alone at 5th. He's got 36, so he's got a chance, but needs to get back on his early-season pace to crack it. He also now has a legitimate shot at total rebounds (236 for 10th), currently with 207.

-D.J. Foreman would easily be the all-time leader in FG percentage for juniors, currently at .617 (Tom Frericks is currently tops on the list at .574). This would also be good for 3rd all-time in single-season FG%. It's weird to have the inside track on a #1 spot on one list and have no shot at any other lists, but that's looking like the most likely outcome for him.

-Davell Roby is in the mix for three pointers made, currently at 46; Cobbin is 10th on the senior list, with 52. At .368, he's outside the top 10 for the 3-point percentage list (John Duff is 10th at .401), but he's been streaky and could end up getting there if he gets hot again. He continues to climb the all-time scoring and minutes lists, as well.

-Aaron Hines, Rashed Anthony, and Markos Psimitis are currently not on pace to come within reach of any class records. Anthony has 17 blocks in limited minutes; if he played more, getting to 27 and making the list wouldn't have been much of a challenge for him.

[HoosierBilliken]

On 2/21/2018 at 9:24 AM, Pistol said:

 

-Aaron Hines, Rashed Anthony, and Markos Psimitis are currently not on pace to come within reach of any class records. Anthony has 17 blocks in limited minutes; if he played more, getting to 27 and making the list wouldn't have been much of a challenge for him.

Is there a record for being the most slandered player in Billiken history?  Or is there a stat that measures inconsistency?  Both would apply.

[brianstl]

8 hours ago, HoosierBilliken said:

Is there a record for being the most slandered player in Billiken history?  Or is there a stat that measures inconsistency?  Both would apply.

You must not been around for the Chris Sloan or Kyle Cassitty era.

[Billiken Rich]

On 2/24/2018 at 8:19 AM, brianstl said:

You must not been around for the Chris Sloan or Kyle Cassitty era.

My man Sekue actually takes that honor.  Sure he shot free throws one handed on occasion but as a senior he was serviceable by the extremely  low Billiken big man standards of the time.....

[ACE]

On 2/24/2018 at 8:19 AM, brianstl said:

You must not been around for the Chris Sloan or Kyle Cassitty era.

I agree Cassity was a decent player who caught a lot of crap, but I think a lot of that was in reaction to roy overhyping him (I think something was said about NBA potential). 

[Box and Won]

23 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said:

My man Sekue actually takes that honor.  Sure he shot free throws one handed on occasion but as a senior he was serviceable by the extremely  low Billiken big man standards of the time.....

Sekeue has been heavily slandered here, but almost exclusively by me.

[Billiken Rich]

Just now, Box and Won said:

Sekeue has been heavily slandered here, but almost exclusively by me.

I can't even spell his name right!

[Box and Won]

Just now, Billiken Rich said:

I can't even spell his name right!

Since becoming an adult (in age, at least), I have managed to refrain from calling him "Suck-eue," as I did in my undergrad days.

[hoppybeer]

He could run up and down the court with the best of them, it was just handling a basketball that was a problem.

[HoosierPal]

12 minutes ago, hoppybeer said:

He could run up and down the court with the best of them, it was just handling a basketball that was a problem.

Wasn't Sekeue the Texas JC 400 Meter Hurdle champ or something like that?

[billikenfan05]

2 hours ago, Box and Won said:

Since becoming an adult (in age, at least), I have managed to refrain from calling him "Suck-eue," as I did in my undergrad days.

man could he rock the sleeveless undershirt.

[Billiken Rich]

He came back with his head shaved as a senior.  I think we did a midnight madness or open practice or something and I was wondering who he was.  He wasn't great but he was ok.  I was pleasantly surprised......

[Pistol]

Here's where we stand at the end of the regular season:

-Hasahn French is the all-time leader in blocks for the freshman class, with 57 on the season. He's also now tied in 4th on the all-class season blocks record, and should have it to himself if he can post another before the season ends. He is currently 6th in freshman rebounding average, at 7.1 per game (he'd be 5th if Goodwin didn't average 7.5 this season). He's already 3rd in total rebounds with 214 and has a chance to tie or pass Roland Gray (2nd, 228) if he gets his average in two more games, or has one game like he did the other night. If his current percentage holds, he'd be 7th in FG percentage with .526, bumping 10th-place Dwayne Evans (.495).

-Jalen Johnson's 3-point percentage (.390) is currently 6th all-time for sophomores. He could still move a little in either direction, but he should be safe on the list unless he puts up multiple consecutive goose eggs in the A10 Tournament. He's 7th on the total 3-pointers list, with 46; with a good game or two, he could move up another spot or two. With 19 blocks, he is now tied for 8th with Matt Baniak and Tommie Liddell. His FT percentage is .763, which leaves him just shy of Harry Rogers in 10th (.766).

-Javon Bess is probably going to come up short on the Junior top 10 scoring lists - Bonner is 10th in average at 15.5 and Bess sits at 13.3 currently, while his 411 points are 42 shy of Kevin Lisch's 453, which isn't out of reach if they go on a run and he's hot. He may also come up short of the steals list, which is a tight bunch - 44 would tie him for 10th, and 49 would put him alone at 5th. He's got 39, so he's got a chance if he plays above his average there. However, he's looking solid for total rebounds, needing 236 for 10th and currently at 229. His 36.0 minutes per game will tie him in 3rd on the all-class season record list if it holds. He is also 10th all-time in minutes played in a season, and could be 7th after the next game, probably 3rd if we get two more games.

-D.J. Foreman will be the all-time leader in FG percentage for juniors, currently at .628 (Tom Frericks is currently tops on the list at .574). This will also be good for 3rd all-time in single-season FG%.

-Davell Roby is close to the senior class three pointers made top 10 list, with 50; Cobbin is 10th on the senior list, with 52. He continues to climb the all-time scoring and minutes lists, as well. He's 24th in all-time scoring, and 70 minutes from the top 10 in total minutes, so he has a chance to reach the latter top-10 list if he plays two more games, and would definitely make it if we play three more.

-Aaron Hines, Rashed Anthony, and Markos Psimitis are currently not on pace to come within reach of any class records. Anthony has 20 blocks in limited minutes; if he played more, getting to 27 and making the senior top-10 blocks list would have been easily within reach.

When the season is over, I'll do a wrap-up thread with everyone's records, including Goodwin.

[HoosierPal]

As always Pistol, excellent recap.  Here are a few others.

Roby is 24th in Career Scoring, and could jump Ferry for 23rd.  He is also 8th in Career 3's Attempted and 8th in 3's Made.  He is 12th in Games Played, two short of the top 10.  He is 13th in Career Minutes Played. 

Bess and Roby joined a somewhat exclusive club of 1000 minutes played in a season.  Bess is 10th with 1115 and Roby 22nd, with exactly 1000 minutes for the season. Bess would need 4 more games to top Bonner's record of 1246 minutes. 

BTW, I have given Brian some information on the MPG Season list.  I have Bess 5th right now with 35.97,  between Burden's 36.0 and Liddell's 35.82.  Claggett is (maybe) in there at 3rd with 36.18 mpg for '92-93. 

[Pistol]

34 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

As always Pistol, excellent recap.  Here are a few others.

Roby is 24th in Career Scoring, and could jump Ferry for 23rd.  He is also 8th in Career 3's Attempted and 8th in 3's Made.  He is 12th in Games Played, two short of the top 10.  He is 13th in Career Minutes Played. 

Bess and Roby joined a somewhat exclusive club of 1000 minutes played in a season.  Bess is 10th with 1115 and Roby 22nd, with exactly 1000 minutes for the season. Bess would need 4 more games to top Bonner's record of 1246 minutes. 

BTW, I have given Brian some information on the MPG Season list.  I have Bess 5th right now with 35.97,  between Burden's 36.0 and Liddell's 35.82.  Claggett is (maybe) in there at 3rd with 36.18 mpg for '92-93. 

I hadn't looked at those numbers for Roby, good points. I also didn't have numbers beyond the top 10 in minutes.

I don't think Bess gets 4 more games, but he'll move up that list no matter how many more games we play.

[Pistol]

Final summary of class record lists reached in the 2017-2018 season:

Freshmen

Jordan Goodwin: Tied with Roland Gray for 7th in scoring average, with 11.5 PPG. He bumps Cody Ellis (10.5) from the list, and Kwamain Mitchell now holds the 10th spot. He finished 7th in total rebounds with 195, just 1 behind Willie Becton. Along with French, they bumped Julian Winfield and Milik Yarbrough from the top 10. He finished 3rd in rebound average, with 7.5, between Gray and Becton and along with French bumping Ellis and Darryl Anderson. He's also 3rd in assists, with 103, between Kevin Williams (108) and Mike McCall (93). And he ended up 2nd in steals, with 52 on the season. Larry Hughes holds the top spot with 69, and Jordair Jett is now 3rd with 44. McCall drops off the list.

Goodwin came up just shy of total points, finishing with 300 and needing 321. He also came up shy of the blocks list, needing 20 and finishing with 16. His percentages were never in play, given the ice cold start he had from the field this season.

In summary: Goodwin made 5 freshman top 10 lists despite playing just 26 games. He would have made 6 lists for sure, possibly 7, had he played out the season. He would've been higher up on a few of those that he made, as well. The only other players in SLU history on 5 of these lists are Gray, Anthony Bonner, Scott Highmark, Hughes, Mitchell, and McCall.

Hasahn French: We all know about the blocks number, and he indeed holds the freshman record of 59 blocks in a season, topping Melvin Robinson's previous class record of 51 and bumping Tommie Liddell from the list. He finished tied in 2nd in total rebounds with Roland Gray at 228, with Winfield and Yarbrough dropping from the top 10. He ended up 6th in rebounding average, with 7.1 RPG and Anderson and Ellis falling out of the top 10. He worked his way up to 7th in field goal percentage, with .535, between Matt Baniak (.537) and Gray (.525), and knocking Dwayne Evans (.495) from the list.

His 298 points were 23 points shy of the top 10, he needed 10.5 PPG for scoring average and finished with 9.3, and he needed 31 steals to tie for 10th and finished with 24.

Sophomores

Jalen Johnson: Unsurprisingly, JJ made his mark in the 3-point shooting categories. He made 52 3-pointers on the season, leaving him tied in 5th for total 3-point field goals with Virgil Cobbin and taking Jason Edwin off the top 10 list. His .394 percentage leaves him 5th in 3-point field goal percentage, between Marcus Bartley (.397) and Drew Diener (.393), and bumping Mitchell from the top 10. He also managed to sneak up to 7th in blocked shots with 21, between Chris Braun (22) and Ian Vouyoukas (20) and bumping Evans and Bonner from a 10th-place tie. Lastly, he grabbed 10th in free throw percentage, with .779 on the season and bumping Harry Rogers from last on the list.

Juniors

Javon Bess: Even though Bess probably deserves the team MVP award this season, he unfortunately won't have a big impact on the junior class records. With 244 rebounds, he managed to snag 10th place in total rebounds from Jeff Harris (236). But otherwise the story is how he just barely missed most lists: He had 440 points and needed 453, he averaged 7.4 RPG and needed 8.2, he finished with 41 steals and needed 44, and his 13.3 points per game were never really a threat to Bonner's 15.5 PPG in 10th. Like Ford said, he does a lot of things for the team that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheet.

D.J. Foreman: Foreman cruised to 1st in field goal percentage with .626 on the season, easily passing Tom Frericks' previous record of .574 and bumping Redditt Hudson (.537) from 10th. But that will be D.J.'s lone contribution to the junior record lists.

Seniors

Davell Roby: Roby managed to crack one top-10 list his senior season, finishing tied in 9th in total 3-point field goals with Roland Gray, with 56 made. For his contributions to the records, you need to look at the all-time lists, and that's where I defer to @HoosierPal:

Mr. Roby has permanently etched his name in the Billiken Record Book.  He sits in 23rd in Career Points Scored, between two other Billiken greats, Conklin and Ferry.  He is 7th in both Career 3's Attempted and 3's Made.  Interestingly he is one ahead of McCall in both categories, and also edged McCall in 3% at 36.5% (17th place) to 35.9% (18th place).  That's good company. 

Roby ties Douglass and Heinrich for 10th place in Games Play with 128.  He is 11th in Minutes Played in a Career, one minute behind Billiken Great Claggett.

He also tied Kevin Lisch for minutes played in one season, both with 1068 for 17th on the all time list.

All Classes

D.J. Foreman's .626 field goal percentage is good for 3rd all-time across all classes, between Melvin Robinson in 1989-90 (.632) and Carlos Skinner in 1990-91 (.616). Frericks and Donnie Dobbs, tied in 10th at .574, drop from the all-class top 10 list.

Hasahn French's 59 blocks put him 4th in total blocks in a season, between Melvin Robinson in 1990-91 (66) and Ian Vouyoukas in 2006-07 (57) and bumping Rob Loe's 2013-14 mark of 41 from 10th.

Jordan Goodwin's 52 steals tie him in 9th for steals in a season with David Burns (1980-81) and Quitman Dillard (1990-91).

Javon Bess' 1,195 minutes were the 3rd most minutes played in a season, behind Roland Gray (1,199) in 1988-89 and Tommie Liddell (1,182) in 2006-07. Bess is also now 2nd in minutes per game for a season, with 36.2. He's behind Anthony' Bonner's record of 38.1 MPG in 1989-90.*

Aaron Hines, Rashed Anthony, and Markos Psimitis did not end up on any records lists this season. Anthony, however, could have reached the 27 blocks necessary to make the senior top 10 had he played more; he had 20 in very limited minutes.

*Minutes records are currently being checked for accuracy and these numbers are subject to change.

[HoosierPal]

I didn't see the need to 'quote' your entire summary, but as usual, great recap Pistol.  I keep longer lists of records, just because..... 

A couple of interesting situations:  French ends up tied with Tommy Liddell for 12th on the Freshman Scoring List.  (Good company.)

Goodwin finished 16th in Freshman FT%, between Hughes and Conklin.  (Hope for the future?)  French finished in FT%, ...well let's not go there.

Bess finished 12th in Junior Steals sandwiched between Evans and Jett.

Johnson sits in 13th for Career 3FG%, between McBroom and Highmark.  Johnson's % is of course fluid.

Foreman is 38 FG Made short of qualifying, but if he keeps his .626 pace, he would take top ranking in FG% over Big Chill's .623.  We will see what happens next season.

Overall the home average attendance of 6,235 was the second worse in the ten years at Chaifetz but a substantial increase from last season's 5,593.

 

[dennis_w]

thanks to pistol for taking the time to this, i enjoyed the reads all season

[Old guy]

Thank you for the updating of the records Pistol. We really had a pretty good team this year.

[HoosierPal]

Two additional team issues for those interested.  Since the 1990-91 season, this team set the record for Foul Shots Attempted and surprise, for Total Blocks.  The previous high for FTA had been the 2012-13 NCAA Team, and the high in blocks had been the 2013-2014 NCAA Team.

[Pistol]

I would expect the 2018-2019 team to build on this year's block record (146).