Sheltiedave Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 We have Strickland in hand, and the other commit will be targeted to be a direct sub for one of our double double players his freshman year. Preferably, French’s sub. With two schollies available, we have to hit on both. I view Strickland as a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, wgstl said: I get what you're saying. But if we make it back to the tourney, in back to back years with a ton of momentum, I think we can do much better. Frankly, Shaun is better than any local guard we're looking at in the 2021 class except for Jordan Nesbitt. But I think it makes more sense to bring in a freshman to be your 8th man than an upperclassman. The former has a chance to start one day and maintains continuity. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, wgstl said: I get what you're saying. But if we make it back to the tourney, in back to back years with a ton of momentum, I think we can do much better. I'm not sure you get what @Franchise_08 is saying. He's not suggesting that SLU should go after Williams or that SLU can't or won't be able to do better. He's saying that K-State is one of our primary rivals in recruiting local St. Louis talent at the level we are recruiting (not 5 stars). Therefore, if a St. Louis kid goes to K-State and "fails" by transferring / not succeeding, then it is good for us because it might make it more difficult for K-State to recruit St. Louis in the future. Flip side is that a guy like Sneed going to K-State and succeeding isn't good for us. Bringing it forward - K-State beat us out for Kasubke and Bradford. I don't wish ill on any players, but I won't be unhappy if things don't pan out for those guys at K-State. GBL_Bills and BilliesBy40 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wgstl Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: I'm not sure you get what @Franchise_08 is saying. He's not suggesting that SLU should go after Williams or that SLU can't or won't be able to do better. He's saying that K-State is one of our primary rivals in recruiting local St. Louis talent at the level we are recruiting (not 5 stars). Therefore, if a St. Louis kid goes to K-State and "fails" by transferring / not succeeding, then it is good for us because it might make it more difficult for K-State to recruit St. Louis in the future. Flip side is that a guy like Sneed going to K-State and succeeding isn't good for us. Bringing it forward - K-State beat us out for Kasubke and Bradford. I don't wish ill on any players, but I won't be unhappy if things don't pan out for those guys at K-State. Thats how I understood it. Even with that said, consistently winning helps battle kstate better with STL kids than getting kids who want to transfer out. And getting kids who are better players will help keep the winning ways going. Sure getting these kids who leave kstate also looks good, but ultimately if you're not winning, then who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: I'm not sure you get what @Franchise_08 is saying. He's not suggesting that SLU should go after Williams or that SLU can't or won't be able to do better. He's saying that K-State is one of our primary rivals in recruiting local St. Louis talent at the level we are recruiting (not 5 stars). Therefore, if a St. Louis kid goes to K-State and "fails" by transferring / not succeeding, then it is good for us because it might make it more difficult for K-State to recruit St. Louis in the future. Flip side is that a guy like Sneed going to K-State and succeeding isn't good for us. Bringing it forward - K-State beat us out for Kasubke and Bradford. I don't wish ill on any players, but I won't be unhappy if things don't pan out for those guys at K-State. Thank you for elaborating my point. Maybe the grass isn’t greener in the Little Apple. K-State is poaching St Louis and is one of our main competitors for local talent. I honestly do not know anything about Williams, not sure why he wasn’t that highly thought of coming out of high school. Maybe cause we weren’t recruiting him, but I certainly do not condone him being a Priority. We need another big even if Diarra works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Isaac Haney can't dunk. Looks a little slow. Is fire from 3 and has good body control. Likes to clap a lot and head-butted the wall after an and 1. I like him. Certainly at least worth a 13th scholarship. This is based on one 3 minute video I just saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, jimbofive said: Isaac Haney can't dunk. Looks a little slow. Is fire from 3 and has good body control. Likes to clap a lot and head-butted the wall after an and 1. I like him. Certainly at least worth a 13th scholarship. This is based on one 3 minute video I just saw. I can't decide if I want to fistbump this kid or punch him in the jejunum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Haney is 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, jimbofive said: Isaac Haney can't dunk. Looks a little slow. Is fire from 3 and has good body control. Likes to clap a lot and head-butted the wall after an and 1. I like him. Certainly at least worth a 13th scholarship. This is based on one 3 minute video I just saw. At the :22 mark in this video he gives a head fake, then dribbles under the defender, I've never seen that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: At the :22 mark in this video he gives a head fake, then dribbles under the defender, I've never seen that before. I want this kid. I want his dad, Mr. Haney, cheering the team on in the stands. I want Mr. Haney selling genuine items from his truck out in front of Chaifetz every game. JohnnyJumpUp, Billiken Rich and wgstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, brianstl said: I want this kid. I want his dad, Mr. Haney, cheering the team on in the stands. I want Mr. Haney selling genuine items from his truck out in front of Chaifetz every game. So do I. You can never have enough heady, coach on the floor, student of the game, gym rat types on your team. JohnnyJumpUp and Spoon-Balls like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: At the :22 mark in this video he gives a head fake, then dribbles under the defender, I've never seen that before. Looks like a scrappy gym rat, coach-on-the-floor type player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 He would be the most hated player in the A10 on day one. Make an offer Travis. Spoon-Balls and JohnnyJumpUp like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Kobe Clark, Vashon, first two games of City of Palms Classic Holiday Tourney in Fort Myers FL: 18 points 14 rebounds 4 assists in 51-47 loss to Scotlandville Magnet, Baton Rouge. (Reece Beekman Virginia commit 10/5) 15 points 13 rebounds 3 assists in 63-60 win over Briarcrest, TN (defending Tennessee state champs, Kennedy Chandler 28, Marcellus Brigham South Carolina commit 14.) They play Philadelphia Roman Catholic Saturday in consolation semifinals. Some big names and teams in this event, and a who’s who of college coaches. Many, many top 25 national teams in the event. wgstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, courtside said: Kobe Clark, Vashon, first two games of City of Palms Classic Holiday Tourney in Fort Myers FL: 18 points 14 rebounds 4 assists in 51-47 loss to Scotlandville Magnet, Baton Rouge. (Reece Beekman Virginia commit 10/5) 15 points 13 rebounds 3 assists in 63-60 win over Briarcrest, TN (defending Tennessee state champs, Kennedy Chandler 28, Marcellus Brigham South Carolina commit 14.) They play Philadelphia Roman Catholic Saturday in consolation semifinals. Some big names and teams in this event, and a who’s who of college coaches. Many, many top 25 national teams in the event. He's going to have a great year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Clark looked really good in the ramey league this fall. I would not be averse to him getting a Billikens offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I've been wondering in a few different conversations in the past few months whether Clark would break out in a big way this year. It's certainly looking like that might be the case. We offered him the same time as Fletcher a couple years ago. Fletcher obviously blew up and Clark went under the radar. With more opportunity at Vashon this year, he's going to get some more offers. My question is how he slots into our roster. With Strickland already signed, plus Jimerson, Jacobs, Perkins, and Thatch on the roster, I just don't see the wing as a position of need for our last spot. I guess a lot can happen between now and the spring signing period, though, and we all know transfers happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 12:14 PM, JohnnyJumpUp said: At the :22 mark in this video he gives a head fake, then dribbles under the defender, I've never seen that before. Pretty sure Bow Wow did it in Like Mike. JohnnyJumpUp likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 49 minutes ago, Pistol said: I've been wondering in a few different conversations in the past few months whether Clark would break out in a big way this year. It's certainly looking like that might be the case. We offered him the same time as Fletcher a couple years ago. Fletcher obviously blew up and Clark went under the radar. With more opportunity at Vashon this year, he's going to get some more offers. My question is how he slots into our roster. With Strickland already signed, plus Jimerson, Jacobs, Perkins, and Thatch on the roster, I just don't see the wing as a position of need for our last spot. I guess a lot can happen between now and the spring signing period, though, and we all know transfers happen. Yeah. I agree. When Strickland signed I figured they weren't interested anymore in Kobe. Right before Strickland signed Ford brought the whole coaching staff down to Vashon. Seeing as Nick has been seen at a few games they were probably there for him. Bills_06 and Pistol like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 7:51 PM, courtside said: Kobe Clark, Vashon, first two games of City of Palms Classic Holiday Tourney in Fort Myers FL: 18 points 14 rebounds 4 assists in 51-47 loss to Scotlandville Magnet, Baton Rouge. (Reece Beekman Virginia commit 10/5) 15 points 13 rebounds 3 assists in 63-60 win over Briarcrest, TN (defending Tennessee state champs, Kennedy Chandler 28, Marcellus Brigham South Carolina commit 14.) They play Philadelphia Roman Catholic Saturday in consolation semifinals. Some big names and teams in this event, and a who’s who of college coaches. Many, many top 25 national teams in the event. Consolation semifinals: Vashon 54 Philadelphia Roman Catholic 46. Clark 11 and 7, Kern 14 and 6, Fletcher 16 and 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dlarry Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 12:14 PM, JohnnyJumpUp said: At the :22 mark in this video he gives a head fake, then dribbles under the defender, I've never seen that before. 100% guarantee this kid plays “slap the floor defense.” He just screams hated white kid from Duke. Sign him up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The KSTATE situation needs to end. Kids from Mehlville and Chaminade should not be passing on us to go to the little apple and play for a middling big 12 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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