moytoy12 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just curious and I'm sure many on the board know the answer, but when a recruit comes in during the season does he participate in any practice drills? Do they throw him out there with the guys to get a sense of how he stacks up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 hours ago, CBFan said: Does this player meet your criteria? I look to you and Pistol and other recruiting posters for this kind of information I just do not know. I think he reminds me of a skinny Cody Ellis and if he is that good then sign him and immediately get him cleared by the NCAA. Shooting over 60% from the field, over 40% from three and over 85% from the line against international competition is absurd. It's Gibson Jimerson level of absurdity and this guy is 3 inches taller. To me, it's not even a discussion. Could you imagine Yuri playing pitch and catch with these two guys on the floor? Jeezus. cgeldmacher, moytoy12, Slu let the dogs out? and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: Just curious and I'm sure many on the board know the answer, but when a recruit comes in during the season does he participate in any practice drills? Do they throw him out there with the guys to get a sense of how he stacks up? ive heard of like pick up games after practice involving recruits and players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RiseAndGrind said: For some reason I am not excited about this dude. He looks like a goon ( as is alice-the- not hockey.) If he can shoot as his stats would suggest, I want him....... Between he and Jimerson, we have the worst looking and best shooting team in Billiken history....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Littlebill said: I think a healthy Welmer is a contributor on this team easily. man, thats sucks. Just another example of Ford doing more with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RiseAndGrind said: For some reason I am not excited about this dude. what is it that you dont like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Shooting over 60% from the line field, over 40% from three and over 85% from the line against international competition is absurd. It's Gibson Jimerson level of absurdity and this guy is 3 inches taller. To me, it's not even a discussion. Could you imagine Yuri playing pitch and catch with these two guys on the floor? Jeezus. Thank you 3 star, I am glad that he came in for a visit that at least shows some interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I hope this guy signs and he's got a smoking hot sister and she comes to every home game with her smoking hot Swedish girlfriends with smoking hot bods. Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, DoctorB said: I vote YES! to adding another shooter. Body still developing (3-4 inches in past year or 2, maybe still growing??); plus I've heard he's a good citizen and solid student. Get used to the name: Lorentsson from 3! I'm actually surprised that some on here don't seem enthusiastic. He's like a perfect fit for our needs, right away, in my view. For another thing: a (Larry) Bird in the hand is worth not getting anyone who can help next year. Or poor man's Larry = Detlef Schrempf. Maybe Lorentsson can be our poor man's Detlef (a name that will send some of our little brothers scrambling to basketball-reference.com, I'm sure...). He was German, btw; and played a long time in the League; nickname the Grand Teuton. Some of youse guys need to get busy thinking up a good nickname for young Andre! Doc seems to be hinting pretty heavily that the visit is going well. Hopefully he's got inside info and not just speculation. Personally, I'd be thrilled to add Lorentsson. We are going to have multiple schollys to give (you'd be naive not to expect some transfers) and need shooters and bigs. He is both. As to whether Euro players do well in college I'd suggest they are more variable, but not necessarily worse. Some can't hack it and leave quickly while others are really good. They have less similar talent around them to measure against which makes it harder for college coaches to properly evaluate. Even within the same family, you may not know if you are getting a Jon Axel or an Ingvi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, wgstl said: what is it that you dont like? Thor, Welmer, hankton basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RiseAndGrind said: Thor, Welmer, hankton basically You sound like Taj. Gotta get out of the mindset of comparing to previous Billiken disappointments and realize that this kid is a completely different player from a different part of the world and has nothing to do with those other guys. Billiken Rich, ACE, slufanskip and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Kshoe this is totally true. The questions are does Ford want him? and did he get an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 FWIW, SLU has a good amount of success with Int'l bigs. In this century, what, 4-ish of our top 7 bigs are International. Loe, Ellis, Vouyoukas & (to a lesser extent) Ohanon ...compared to 3 good bigs we've had from US (Conklin, French, Reed)...probably missing someone, but you get the point. We've had a lot of good come from F/C who are international recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Thor, Welmer, hankton basically I wouldn't throw Welmer in that group. I would be thrilled to get a player who is like a healthy version of Welmer. You never know about videos, but the kid has a nice stroke and seems like a decent athlete. If he is 6-8 and can do a decent job of defending, while knocking down some 3s that would be awesome. We have Bell and French to provide the muscle, so we don't need him to be a bruiser. Also, how nice would it be to have a player with size, who can make free throws in the final minute of a close game - considering you can't have French in there for those situations. It seems foreign bigs tend to be more perimeter oriented (Loe and Ellis from our past as examples) so it makes sense that we might have to go overseas to get this type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, kshoe said: You sound like Taj. Gotta get out of the mindset of comparing to previous Billiken disappointments and realize that this kid is a completely different player from a different part of the world and has nothing to do with those other guys. Oh for sure. I’m just a MBM. my only actual legitimate statement is i hope he is a legit 6’8. Kind of maxed out on the 6’5 tweeners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, kshoe said: Doc seems to be hinting pretty heavily that the visit is going well. Hopefully he's got inside info and not just speculation. Personally, I'd be thrilled to add Lorentsson. We are going to have multiple schollys to give (you'd be naive not to expect some transfers) and need shooters and bigs. He is both. As to whether Euro players do well in college I'd suggest they are more variable, but not necessarily worse. Some can't hack it and leave quickly while others are really good. They have less similar talent around them to measure against which makes it harder for college coaches to properly evaluate. Even within the same family, you may not know if you are getting a Jon Axel or an Ingvi. And shooting is a skill that plays if you have a good quick release and form. He'll have to be able to defend but I'll err on the side of a shooter all day dennis_w likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Is this kid a product of Ford Stuen's recruiting trip to Europe a couple months ago? I thought he was in Spain mostly but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, kshoe said: Is this kid a product of Ford Stuen's recruiting trip to Europe a couple months ago? I thought he was in Spain mostly but who knows. as my wife always says, "well since we're already over here", maybe he took a quick trip up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 -I still can't see who else is on this kid, Pistol or others do you have anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, kshoe said: Doc seems to be hinting pretty heavily that the visit is going well. Hopefully he's got inside info and not just speculation. Personally, I'd be thrilled to add Lorentsson. We are going to have multiple schollys to give (you'd be naive not to expect some transfers) and need shooters and bigs. He is both. As to whether Euro players do well in college I'd suggest they are more variable, but not necessarily worse. Some can't hack it and leave quickly while others are really good. They have less similar talent around them to measure against which makes it harder for college coaches to properly evaluate. Even within the same family, you may not know if you are getting a Jon Axel or an Ingvi. I agree that we will have more than just one schollie to give. Not wanting to predict anything but common sense says it will happen. We did well with Loe and Ellis so why not him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -I still can't see who else is on this kid, Pistol or others do you have anything? You probably won't find out until after he signs. That's usually how it goes for international prospects who don't attend American prep schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, ACE said: I wouldn't throw Welmer in that group. I would be thrilled to get a player who is like a healthy version of Welmer. You never know about videos, but the kid has a nice stroke and seems like a decent athlete. If he is 6-8 and can do a decent job of defending, while knocking down some 3s that would be awesome. We have Bell and French to provide the muscle, so we don't need him to be a bruiser. Also, how nice would it be to have a player with size, who can make free throws in the final minute of a close game - considering you can't have French in there for those situations. It seems foreign bigs tend to be more perimeter oriented (Loe and Ellis from our past as examples) so it makes sense that we might have to go overseas to get this type of player. Look we don't know what Welmer would have actually done since he was always hurt so why people are so certain that he would have been that good - he was 2 years or more older than his peers which probably means he had hit his ceiling. Thor had his unique issues with coming in late, the surgery, and who knows what else. Hankton has been hurt as much as Welmer so hard to say what he can or can not be. This kid can certainly shoot as evidenced by his stats. Like someone else said we need shooters and you can not build a program on grad transfers.. MusicCityBilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Look we don't know what Welmer would have actually done since he was always hurt so why people are so certain that he would have been that good - he was 2 years or more older than his peers which probably means he had hit his ceiling. Thor had his unique issues with coming in late, the surgery, and who knows what else. Hankton has been hurt as much as Welmer so hard to say what he can or can not be. This kid can certainly shoot as evidenced by his stats. Like someone else said we need shooters and you can not build a program on grad transfers.. We have one full season of data on a healthy Welmer, which we don't have on Thor or Hankton, so the comparison doesn't make sense. Also, unless this kid from Sweden has injury problems I'm not aware of, I don't understand the comparison. Welmer played in 33 games, averaged nearly 8 ppg, 5 rpg and shot 33 of 89 from 3-point for 37%. We'd be thrilled with something resembling that from a stretch big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 3 coaches went to Rhode Island and saw him play on Sunday and he is on campus by Tuesday. I’ll leave it at that. Bizziken, Pistol, MusicCityBilliken and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: 3 coaches went to Rhode Island and saw him play on Sunday and he is on campus by Tuesday. I’ll leave it at that. FromDaInsideOfChaifetz???? It will be awkward if he commits soon and we don't have an open spot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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