Pistol Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Joe Girard to Syracuse. Tyson Etienne to Wichita State. Michael Christmas to James Madison. All had SLU offers but we weren't finalists for any. 2019 names are dropping quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Tyrell Jones to Auburn. I think he had like 40 offers and we were relatively anonymous in a crowded pool and clearly not among his leaders. Malik Hall cut Texas and Oklahoma and is down to Purdue, Michigan State, and Oregon. He's had a very predictable, smooth recruitment. Oregon and Purdue have seemed like his leaders from very early on. Michigan State was clearly a big deal to him when they offered. I could see him going to any of the three from here, with almost equal odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Other 2019 tidbits: Terrence Shannon, Jr. had scheduled his announcement for 11/1, but is now saying that he will announce at a later time. I can't get a read on why. He's taken all 5 official visits. Maybe he's just gun shy after the initial DePaul commitment and decommitment. Lester Quinones has not taken any official visits and said he would commit and sign in the spring. My take here is that he knows how good he is and is waiting for the bluebloods to catch up, and if an elite program has a spot in the spring, he will have proven himself worthy by then (he already has, in my opinion; he's awesome). Chris Ledlum took his third official visit (after Harvard and Yale) to Georgetown. No word yet on who's getting the last two. I thought Notre Dame might get one but they have reportedly parted ways. Things are quiet with the other known 2019 names at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Pistol said: Other 2019 tidbits: Terrence Shannon, Jr. had scheduled his announcement for 11/1, but is now saying that he will announce at a later time. I can't get a read on why. He's taken all 5 official visits. Maybe he's just gun shy after the initial DePaul commitment and decommitment. Lester Quinones has not taken any official visits and said he would commit and sign in the spring. My take here is that he knows how good he is and is waiting for the bluebloods to catch up, and if an elite program has a spot in the spring, he will have proven himself worthy by then (he already has, in my opinion; he's awesome). Chris Ledlum took his third official visit (after Harvard and Yale) to Georgetown. No word yet on who's getting the last two. I thought Notre Dame might get one but they have reportedly parted ways. Things are quiet with the other known 2019 names at this point. I assume we still have one schollie left for this period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, cheeseman said: I assume we still have one schollie left for this period? With Santos' departure, we actually have 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Not SLU but Tray Jackson, who was committed to Minnesota, decommitted and then committed to Mizzou. Martin strikes again continuing to go after a kid that commits. Mr. Ethics continues his streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Absolute slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 The Poach Coach strikes again! JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Bills_06 said: Not SLU but Tray Jackson, who was committed to Minnesota, decommitted and then committed to Mizzou. Martin strikes again continuing to go after a kid that commits. Mr. Ethics continues his streak. This one looks especially bad. Jackson decommitted from Minnesota and committed to Mizzou a couple hours later. There wasn’t even the usual dog & pony show of the kid “looking” at other schools for a period of time like with Porter, Tilmon or Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamJAMTIME Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Dave Matter seems especially proud of it. From today's Post Dispatch article: "Commitment flips have been Cuonzo Martin’s specialty since he came to Missouri last year. Jackson is the seventh recruit who has picked Mizzou after being committed to play elsewhere since the spring of 2017, following Michael Porter Jr., Jontay Porter and Blake Harris (all pledged to Washington), Jeremiah Tilmon and Javon Pickett (both signed to play at Illinois) and Torrence Watson (Ohio State)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I guess these kids just automatically think about Mizzery when they walk away from their promises. The Porters you can understand, i.e. Hires Dad as AC. The others, however, don't seem that clear cut. Is this apparent meddling on the Poacher's part legal under NCAA rules? Would be nice to see some coaches turn the table on him or report him if it's not kosher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 So has Captain Integrity poached more players than he has signed straight up? Or are the numbers close? Sounds like a bad recruiting strategy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 It's legal. Nothing is forever until they actually enroll. Even LOI's get voided and players 'poached.' That is the state of affairs and you either adapt or die. I never put Gordon into the fold until he enrolled for the summer. Only then do you have them. Look at thay 5-star big man that committed to Western Kentucky last year. He only tried to decommit after enrolling for summer classes and by then it was too late. At that point, a change meant he had to actually transfer and sit out. And I don't recall what happened to him. I think his name was Robinson or something. And, of course, after they enroll, transfers are still a way of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Remember when the rumors were swirling about Gordon last fall, somebody reported (maybe frank) that cuonzo called Ford and told him “that’s not how he operates” and he’d only recruit Gordon if he decommitted from SLU. Stuff like that makes me laugh. Mr. Integrity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, kshoe said: Remember when the rumors were swirling about Gordon last fall, somebody reported (maybe frank) that cuonzo called Ford and told him “that’s not how he operates” and he’d only recruit Gordon if he decommitted from SLU. Stuff like that makes me laugh. Mr. Integrity! Coach Integrity starts recruiting when kids commit. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Taj79 said: It's legal. Nothing is forever until they actually enroll. Even LOI's get voided and players 'poached.' That is the state of affairs and you either adapt or die. I never put Gordon into the fold until he enrolled for the summer. Only then do you have them. Look at thay 5-star big man that committed to Western Kentucky last year. He only tried to decommit after enrolling for summer classes and by then it was too late. At that point, a change meant he had to actually transfer and sit out. And I don't recall what happened to him. I think his name was Robinson or something. And, of course, after they enroll, transfers are still a way of life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Robinson sat on the Knicks bench last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, JettFlight5 said: Coach Integrity starts recruiting when kids commit. It is easier to recruit a kid when most other programs stop. Westy03, Franchise_08 and JettFlight5 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, brianstl said: It is easier to recruit a kid when most other programs stop. And you know the dollar amount you have to beat too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, JMM28 said: And you know the dollar amount you have to beat too. Bingo! Saves you from over bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I find it funny that between Ford & Martin, Ford somehow has the reputation for being the slimey recruiting guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: I find it funny that between Ford & Martin, Ford somehow has the reputation for being the slimey recruiting guy. Not at all. Wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Poach Martin says if you ain’t poaching you ain’t recruiting. Watch out Ohio State remember Watson Liddell will be next. With Poach Martin around none of SLU’s recruits are safe I will feel better when Hargrove signs but even better when he enrolls. I like coach Ford’s approach if they commit move on there are plenty of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 What disturbs me the most is that an "adult" actively encourages a teenager to go against his word and break a promise. And he and his employer are apparently proud of it. That ain't right in my book. billiken_roy and slufanskip like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, WVBilliken said: Not at all. Wrong. Actually you never heard Illini fans talk about him. There were several fan bases around the country that were convinced Ford was dirty when we hired him. They were wrong, but that rep has been out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, CBFan said: Poach Martin says if you ain’t poaching you ain’t recruiting. Watch out Ohio State remember Watson Liddell will be next. With Poach Martin around none of SLU’s recruits are safe I will feel better when Hargrove signs but even better when he enrolls. I like coach Ford’s approach if they commit move on there are plenty of players. Liddell isn’t going to change his mind. That one is over. They already threw everything they could at Liddell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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