BilliKat Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Wow, Kitty are you an insider or a MBM? I believe I was the first to mention Anthony Grant, back on Jan. 4, so of course I would be in favor of it! I would think Donovan would be fine with him leaving for a college HC job. And I think Durrant and Westbrook would be just fine with the loss of an assistant. I guess none of us can deny MBM status... But I'm ok with that... I'm a tricky broad. I know a few people who are close in the program and seem to be dead on usually... This was the first time Billikens talk really fully brought me in to the conversation this season. I hope it's true. The one who said was pretty matter of fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why would Donovan be okay with him leaving before the season ended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Assistants rarely make that kind of money. A friend is the third assistant on an NBA team and isn't anywhere close to that. Grant is probably making close to that amount in OKC. Salaries for NBA assistants have been trending up at a rapid rate for the last few seasons. The reduction in monthly buyout payments from Alabama suggest that he is earning $800,000 in basketball related income. http://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/index.ssf/2015/08/anthony_grant_buyout_alabama_2015.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I think what SLU will have to pay Grant to accept the job will have to be at least $1.2 million and probably north of that. That is because no matter what he does for the next 3 seasons he will make $1 million per from his Alabama buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobile-iken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Grant did very little at Alabama with an incredible athletic budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Grant did very little at Alabama with an incredible athletic budget.He was also playing second fiddle to Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Grant did very little at Alabama with an incredible athletic budget. The SEC is a mediocre P5 basketball league outside of Kentucky - Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Tenn... when is the last time any of those programs had sustained success? A lot of coaches go fail in that league. One of the few guys who was able to build success at one of these football factory schools was Billy D - Grant was an assistant for him for 10 years and Donovan thought enough of him to bring him to the NBA. Adding the NBA (even for just a year) to his resume would be a plus. He was a good player at Dayton, so should have a sense of how to do well at a program like SLU. Also, he won conference titles all three years he was at VCU = "mid major" success. And looking back at his record at Bama, it wasn't that bad. He was over .500 in the SEC, really only one bad year. He made the Big Dance once, and the NIT three times, including the Finals once. Even in his final season, he made the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-West & PO-Z Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Grant did very little at Alabama with an incredible athletic budget. Yeah he would be a decent candidate (way better than Bruce Weber) but I'm not sure I understand all the love he is getting on here. Especially not if you have to break the bank to get him. Whoever it is it needs to be someone with a proven recruiting record and hopefully with strong recruiting ties to the general area, whether a current assistant or a head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobile-iken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Deleted...Sorry for the double post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-West & PO-Z Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 The SEC is a mediocre P5 basketball league outside of Kentucky - Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Tenn... when is the last time any of those programs had sustained success? A lot of coaches go fail in that league. One of the few guys who was able to build success at one of these football factory schools was Billy D - Grant was an assistant for him for 10 years and Donovan thought enough of him to bring him to the NBA. Adding the NBA (even for just a year) to his resume would be a plus. He was a good player at Dayton, so should have a sense of how to do well at a program like SLU. Also, he won conference titles all three years he was at VCU = "mid major" success. And looking back at his record at Bama, it wasn't that bad. He was over .500 in the SEC, really only one bad year. He made the Big Dance once, and the NIT three times, including the Finals once. Even in his final season, he made the NIT. Yeah he was very successful at VCU, but he did have 2 guys on his roster who were 1st round NBA picks. Wonder if he recruited them? Maybe he would do well again at a school with no football where basketball takes precedence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I agree, but check out softball, baseball, gymnastics, men's and women's golf, men's and women's tennis. They do extremely well in almost all sports.Southern Schools do well in all the warm weather sports and as far as gymnastics go well big schools dominate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobile-iken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 He was also playing second fiddle to Football I agree, but check out softball, baseball, gymnastics, men's and women's golf, men's and women's tennis. Alabama does very well in almost all sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I agree, but check out softball, baseball, gymnastics, men's and women's golf, men's and women's tennis. Alabama does very well in almost all sports.I already provided an answer to all of those points. Basketball is a different animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah he would be a decent candidate (way better than Bruce Weber) but I'm not sure I understand all the love he is getting on here. Especially not if you have to break the bank to get him. Whoever it is it needs to be someone with a proven recruiting record and hopefully with strong recruiting ties to the general area, whether a current assistant or a head coach. Maynor was recruited by Capel. Grant recruited Larry Sanders and Bradford Burgress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I already provided an answer to all of those points. Basketball is a different animal The coach before Grant at Alabama took them to the Elite 8 and to five straight NCAA tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 The coach before Grant at Alabama took them to the Elite 8 and to five straight NCAA tournaments.Gottfried. Let's get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobile-iken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Gottfried. Let's get him. Gilbert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Why would Donovan be okay with him leaving before the season ended? Donovan probably knows what Grant would like to do with his career. If Grant wants to return to college coaching, that might be what has to happen. Never having been a coach in either situation, I can't say for sure, but I would think that prepping for the CFB playoff would be more conducive to assembling a staff and recruiting than an NBA schedule would be. Also, the coach of the Thunder's D-League team could slide in to Grant's spot once the D-League season ends. I don't follow the NBA enough to know how often NBA assistants leave for college jobs, and the timeline for when they start on the new job. Also, here's an interesting little fact that probably means nothing, but I'll bring it up anyway. Anthony Grant played at Dayton from 1983-1987. SLU President Fred Pestello started at Dayton as a sociology professor in 1984. Just makes me wonder if there were any interactions between the two, or if Pestello remembers Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Donovan probably knows what Grant would like to do with his career. If Grant wants to return to college coaching, that might be what has to happen. Never having been a coach in either situation, I can't say for sure, but I would think that prepping for the CFB playoff would be more conducive to assembling a staff and recruiting than an NBA schedule would be. Also, the coach of the Thunder's D-League team could slide in to Grant's spot once the D-League season ends. I don't follow the NBA enough to know how often NBA assistants leave for college jobs, and the timeline for when they start on the new job. Also, here's an interesting little fact that probably means nothing, but I'll bring it up anyway. Anthony Grant played at Dayton from 1983-1987. SLU President Fred Pestello started at Dayton as a sociology professor in 1984. Just makes me wonder if there were any interactions between the two, or if Pestello remembers Grant. That might be the root of the rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 -I'll preface with this is serious as I talked to a fellow SLU fan and had to ask if they were serious as they were advocating for Justin Tatum as head coach, their take was good x and o, should know everyone in the area to recruit and a former Billiken, I could see as an assistant, but head coach might go too far and would be a year late to land at least one kid, his own -any one have thoughts on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 -I'll preface with this is serious as I talked to a fellow SLU fan and had to ask if they were serious as they were advocating for Justin Tatum as head coach, their take was good x and o, should know everyone in the area to recruit and a former Billiken, I could see as an assistant, but head coach might go too far and would be a year late to land at least one kid, his own -any one have thoughts on this one? I don't think it would happen. But what an emotional roller coaster that could provide if then younger decided to not go to Duke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hiring a coach of a high school program is rare. That coach would have to have some reason why we would hire him rather than someone with college coaching experience. Let me think. Is there anything he could bring to the table that would convince us to overlook his lack of experience? No . . . I'm rather sure that there is nothing that he could presently provide as an ace in the hole to convince us to bring him on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I would be in favor of Justin as an assistant. We need to do something to help rebuild the relationship with the Eagles. Justin would help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 -I'll preface with this is serious as I talked to a fellow SLU fan and had to ask if they were serious as they were advocating for Justin Tatum as head coach, their take was good x and o, should know everyone in the area to recruit and a former Billiken, I could see as an assistant, but head coach might go too far and would be a year late to land at least one kid, his own -any one have thoughts on this one? I'd be happy with JT as a assistant, but as the head coach? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I don't think it would happen. But what an emotional roller coaster that could provide if then younger decided to not go to Duke... He's going to Duke, i suspect because the SLU program is a disaster and disgrace currently. Bringing Justin Tatum in after his son has committed to Duke would be the dumbest idea since hiring Crews. Let's not even discuss that path. SLU is at minimum a top 100 program. We are not a Valley school, we should not be playing second fiddle half baked garbage. Grant is the kind of guy we need to be going after. Lavin. Drew. Real names. Stay focused on guys who can get us to the Dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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