slu72 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 No, but AY and MY, maybe even JM, should be getting 30 mpg. The A10's on to AM, ie don't give him any open looks from the perimeter. So he's going to be very limited in conf play. See the end of last season. Still, he could be effective off the bench for instant offense. I'd turn the PG keys over to MB and MR. Hell, we're not going anywhere this year, let's find out what these kids can do. DR, for defense and experience, should get 20 mpg. AG about the same. Unless the light goes on for RA and TL, they should be purely insurance players, ie injury. MC as well should get a good 20-25 a game, lei's find out what he's got and see if he develops. An 8-9 man rotation would be MY, AY, JM, MB, MR, MC, AM, DR, AG. Yeah, it's a short lineup, but what the hey it ain't like we're a rebounding machine when we put in the bigs. One thing for sure we can't have a lineup of one starter and 4 others in there and compete. Hasn't worked against any team this year except the real weaklings, which we barely snuck by anyways, and it killed us today for those 5 minutes in the second half. We're rebuilding and the only two players who've shown they're effective at this level so far are AY and MY. Find the next best 7 and spread the rest of the minutes around among them. If that pisses off the 3 that are not playing so much that they want out... good riddance. It will give us the opportunity to hopefully snag a couple of JUCO's that can compete at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 It's too bad that one of our best games resulted in a 13 point loss And was the result of playing our starters 25, 29, 30, 30, and 35 minutes. So playing 12 guys early in the season was the result of having a bunch of average players and not a sign of our depth. At least we found out fairly early on that Milik is a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And was the result of playing our starters 25, 29, 30, 30, and 35 minutes. So playing 12 guys early in the season was the result of having a bunch of average players and not a sign of our depth. At least we found out fairly early on that Milik is a player. DR is a player, too, defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hurley actually asked the ref for a flagrant on the pep band down the stretch, according to Strauss. What a little #####https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeStrauss/status/551492787506409472 As A_Bomb posted, I think someone was joking. Whether it was Hurley and Strauss heard, or if Strauss was joking, I think it was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Strauss was joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yarbrough can play. Roby can defend. Yacoubou is up and down. McBroom is a useful player but not a floor leader/point guard. Crawford is a role player capable of scoring but not much else. Manning can defend the post a bit. Don't really know what to say about anyone else. I still look forward to every single game, but damn this season is hard to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yarbrough can play. Roby can defend. Yacoubou is up and down. McBroom is a useful player but not a floor leader/point guard. Crawford is a role player capable of scoring but not much else. Manning can defend the post a bit. Don't really know what to say about anyone else. I still look forward to every single game, but damn this season is hard to watch. I'm in about the same place. I haven't seen enough live games to make a guess about break-outs vs. busts, but boy ... I wish more of our guys instilled more confidence in what they are going to do on the floor when they get in there. Still, Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 As A_Bomb posted, I think someone was joking. Whether it was Hurley and Strauss heard, or if Strauss was joking, I think it was a joke.Oh well, Hurley is still a ******.I agree with MB that our biggest problem is BIGS. Manning is OK defensively, but really doesn't provide much else. Gillman is still too young and thin to truly be effective down low. I don't know what to say about Jolly. Our problem is bigs because the whole offensive flow relies on them getting the ball down low and doing something with it, as well as setting up effective screens. That's why Majerus stressed the importance of them so much. Hoping Gillman adds more weight and can be a similar player to Loe, and also hope Neufeld provides some size and skill in the low post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I don't know what to say about Jolly. Try to convince him he's Swedish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booyaa87 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I still don't accept that not putting any rebounders at the line for our shooters is good strategy. Especially when we aren't a good free throw shooting team. You don't need four guys back to stop the fast break. Two guys will do. If we had 80 percent shooters ok. But we only have one of those and he isn't at the line very often. We gave up at least two rebounds today doing that. In a close game it will cosy you. +1000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I still don't accept that not putting any rebounders at the line for our shooters is good strategy. Especially when we aren't a good free throw shooting team. You don't need four guys back to stop the fast break. Two guys will do. If we had 80 percent shooters ok. But we only have one of those and he isn't at the line very often. We gave up at least two rebounds today doing that. In a close game it will cosy you. One thing that I noticed today is that Ash often lined up for rebounds, but no other player did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 One major rotation problem is who do you bring in when Yarborough needs a break. Obviously no one on this roster can replace both his offense and his rebounding. Agbeko can replace the rebounding if he can be reigned in and told not to put the ball on the floor for his patented traveling calls from the head of the key. Just crash the boards, shoot put backs and defend. If that's not possible we're stuck with going undersized with Roby. Can he defend and rebound well enough to fill in for 10 minutes a game at the 4? Only other options are a reluctant Lancona or twin towers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Pretty bad when staff didn't catch the technical not being counted as a personal and team foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenboy Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 We did better on the board on this game but certainly a concerted team effort to rbd would serve us well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Pretty bad when staff didn't catch the technical not being counted as a personal and team foul. -I guess by 'staff' you include what seems to be our disorder at the scorer's table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 -I guess by 'staff' you include what seems to be our disorder at the scorer's table Further acceptance of the Gus standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Further acceptance of the Gus standard. -just to be clear, I was including the comic of correction and all else in an official capacity at the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Somebody on the coaching staff should be on top of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 -just to be clear, I was including the comic of correction and all else in an official capacity at the tableYes, that was what I figured you meant. I'm just saying that the athletic department's inexplicable tolerance of a PA announcer who can't even pronounce our players' names correctly is symptomatic of its tolerance of a home-court scorer's table that makes errors that hurt the home team (not to mention is somehow incapable of operating the clock correctly and/or ensuring that the scoreboard actually lists the players who are in the game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes, that was what I figured you meant. I'm just saying that the athletic department's inexplicable tolerance of a PA announcer who can't even pronounce our players' names correctly is symptomatic of its tolerance of a home-court scorer's table that makes errors that hurt the home team (not to mention is somehow incapable of operating the clock correctly and/or ensuring that the scoreboard actually lists the players who are in the game). -it can't be that it is not seen as a problem, can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes, that was what I figured you meant. I'm just saying that the athletic department's inexplicable tolerance of a PA announcer who can't even pronounce our players' names correctly is symptomatic of its tolerance of a home-court scorer's table that makes errors that hurt the home team (not to mention is somehow incapable of operating the clock correctly and/or ensuring that the scoreboard actually lists the players who are in the game). Is it that hard to figure out who is in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Somebody needs to keep a running total of "MILIK...ASH YACOUBOU" moments. After two seasons together that pair could top Dwight Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Pretty bad when staff didn't catch the technical not being counted as a personal and team foul. My double secret inside source informed me that a class b technical such as hanging on the rim do not result in a team of personal foul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Is it that hard to figure out who is in the game? Some of us actually enjoy knowing that Milik has 12 points and Ash has 10, etc. I suppose that's too much to ask when you're watching your own team on its home court. To each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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