Tonka Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm in my 40s and had no idea who Calbert Cheaney was until we hired him. I am assuming this is a joke. If you follow college basketball, the tournament, etc. - it would have been impossible to not have heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Were you a basketball fan in the 90s? Not ripping, just curious. I'm actually shocked at how few people had not heard of Cheney until we hired him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenswin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm actually shocked at how few people had not heard of Cheney until we hired him. I am amazed and shocked as well. However, for those of us who lived for, played and watched basketball from an early age and coached thereafter in various ways, it tells us a bit about our fan base in terms of what I would call diehard basketball fans. A lot of our fans have not been what I would call "basketball junkies" so they do not have a strong knowledge of the game or its historical figures, players or strategy. That comes through in a lot of the comments on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Cusumano LOVES Haith... even after all of the scandals and NCAA Tourney flamouts. Its odd that both boards are saying that Cusumano loves the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I am amazed and shocked as well. However, for those of us who lived for, played and watched basketball from an early age and coached thereafter in various ways, it tells us a bit about our fan base in terms of what I would call diehard basketball fans. A lot of our fans have not been what I would call "basketball junkies" so they do not have a strong knowledge of the game or its historical figures, players or strategy. That comes through in a lot of the comments on this board. Pretty striking generalization. Perhaps our fan base is also just younger than you realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I cannot figure out how to read that board efficiently. Do you have to click on every single response, wait for it to load, just to find some two word comment from one of those dipshits? Yep. That's why I hate that that's the preferred place to talk Mizzou hoops. I'm in my 40s and had no idea who Calbert Cheaney was until we hired him. I'm shocked. I remember legendary battles between Cheaney's Indiana squad and Ohio State with Jim Jackson. And it was Cheaney's squad that kept Shaquille O'Neal from reaching a Final Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Its odd that both boards are saying that Cusumano loves the other. Frank loves us too, no denying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The poster HissingPrigs has said some solid things in that thread, most importantly that SLU is very much still involved with CB. The poster MUTGR used to post on here all the time but stopped about 5 years ago. He's got a law degree from SLU so he's a relatively intelligent person but his hard-on hate of SLU is something else. HissingPrigs seems to think we are going to land McCaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Amusing stuff about Calbert; and a bit sad too. I watched him play live dozens of times, plus met him a lot and played pick up ball with him many times down in the old Hyper building in Bloomington. A true legend and a helluva good guy. hard to stomach but it was over 20 years ago . . . Then again, just to put this into perspective: it is age-driven. Because believe it or not, guys like Gary Bradds, Art Heyman, Chet Forte, and Tom Gola, among others, all won player of the year awards, back when I was a kid or before I was born. Does everyone remember Bradds, Heyman, etc.?? Be honest .... And around the same time Calbert won it, before or after, the likes of Danny Ferry, Hersey Hawkins, and Jim Jackson also won it. Does everyone remember them?? Plus I seem to recall Cazzie Russell, who I also think was all time scoring leader at Michigan and maybe in Big Ten for a while, won it -- and yet how many remember Cazzie? ps: I teach a lot of history and students often have difficulty naming our main enemies in WW II; or they are stymied by questions about who fought in the Civil War, etc., so historical failures no longer surprise me very much. It helps explain why so many fans today actually argue about which one of the following: Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, or Kevin Durant; is the all time greatest player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 HissingPrigs seems to think we are going to land McCaw. Does he have any info on that? From everything I've gathered that seems highly, highly unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm in my 40s and had no idea who Calbert Cheaney was until we hired him. Wow! The all-time leading scorer in Big Ten history... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I lived in Ohio at the time and saw him play OSU a few times, plus on TV. He wasn't a flashy player and lost sight of him after he finished at IU, ie he wasn't an MJ and if he was he wouldn't be in coaching. I would suspect the parents of Indy recruits would be very honored to have him over for a dinner. Played for Knight, Big10 player of the year, etc. Those kind of players aren't forgotten in their home states, especially in hoops crazy Hoosierland. How that works for landing CB, probably not so much. Might not hurt to have the Legend whisper in the kid's ear. And while he's at it, whisper in Justin's kid's ear as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It helps explain why so many fans today actually argue about which one of the following: Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, or Kevin Durant; is the all time greatest player.... Does anyone actually argue this? I've seen recent comparisons between Lebron and Jordan, but that's about it. I have never once heard anyone argue that Durant is the best all-time player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Does he have any info on that? From everything I've gathered that seems highly, highly unlikely. He backed away from it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Doc B, did you mean the infamous Art Heyman? Second best sports quote I ever heard: Heyman's a Knick and they're having a card game on the plane ride home. Holtzman, coach of the Knicks, asks if he can play. Heyman says, "This is my game. You don't let me play in yours. you ain't playing in mine." Classic. And as for history, I still can't figure out why we went to war with Japan, when it was those dirty rotten Nazis that attacked Pearl Harbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 MJ's one for the ages. Plus the kids are still buying Air Jordans. He's Babe Ruth big. Jim Brown big. Be interesting question just for the heck of it, Doc, ask your class who was Babe Ruth? If they don't know, or say something stupid like "An old time movie star.", or "a candy bar", flunk 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_davola Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 NH - The average age on Billikens.com may be younger than he thinks, however, the average age at Chaifetz has got to be around 87. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I am amazed and shocked as well. However, for those of us who lived for, played and watched basketball from an early age and coached thereafter in various ways, it tells us a bit about our fan base in terms of what I would call diehard basketball fans. A lot of our fans have not been what I would call "basketball junkies" so they do not have a strong knowledge of the game or its historical figures, players or strategy. That comes through in a lot of the comments on this board.Is this a serious post? How does not knowing who Calbert Cheaney is equate to inferior "knowledge of the game"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 NH - The average age on Billikens.com may be younger than he thinks, however, the average age at Chaifetz has got to be around 87. My best friend always says that Chaifetz is filled with more old men wearing hats than any other place in the world. Seriously look around next time and the amount of older gentlemen wearing baseball caps is astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsidejoe Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 That's it, no more baseball caps for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 yeah, well, be careful what you make fun of, NH-- that could be you, in 30-40 years! personally I do not wear a baseball cap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Amusing stuff about Calbert; and a bit sad too. I watched him play live dozens of times, plus met him a lot and played pick up ball with him many times down in the old Hyper building in Bloomington. A true legend and a helluva good guy. hard to stomach but it was over 20 years ago . . . Then again, just to put this into perspective: it is age-driven. Because believe it or not, guys like Gary Bradds, Art Heyman, Chet Forte, and Tom Gola, among others, all won player of the year awards, back when I was a kid or before I was born. Does everyone remember Bradds, Heyman, etc.?? Be honest .... And around the same time Calbert won it, before or after, the likes of Danny Ferry, Hersey Hawkins, and Jim Jackson also won it. Does everyone remember them?? Plus I seem to recall Cazzie Russell, who I also think was all time scoring leader at Michigan and maybe in Big Ten for a while, won it -- and yet how many remember Cazzie? ps: I teach a lot of history and students often have difficulty naming our main enemies in WW II; or they are stymied by questions about who fought in the Civil War, etc., so historical failures no longer surprise me very much. It helps explain why so many fans today actually argue about which one of the following: Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, or Kevin Durant; is the all time greatest player.... Joe Berry Carroll and Sleepy Floyd, too. Those guys were right there in the late 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 NH - The average age on Billikens.com may be younger than he thinks, however, the average age at Chaifetz has got to be around 87. That's why I like to go there. Only place where I can look around and feel young. And I don't wear a cap......during the anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Pine Jim Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 That's why I like to go there. Only place where I can look around and feel young. And I don't wear a cap......during the anthem. Ditto. Only place with an older clientele is Miss Sheri's Cafeteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Ditto. Only place with an older clientele is Miss Sheri's Cafeteria. That's a great suggestion for the next "annual" Billikens,com message board gathering! On the past couple of pages we have spent more time on wearing caps then the thread topic, but what's new? Next comes the always clever 50/50 post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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