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NBA TV carries a great deal of Summer league games.

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13 hours ago, TheChosenOne said:

I was just wondering about Tramaine (based on your post I am assuming he is playing in the summer league as well!), who will he be playing with? I have been killing this board with Google requests, but when is the summer league and are those games broadcast? I am looking forward to following the three former Billikens.

https://www.nba.com/summerleague#/

Google can be an amazing tool. 

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2 hours ago, slufan13 said:

I believe Ford would have gotten Tatum but would Rickma have gotten him?

Yes

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1 hour ago, slufan13 said:

I believe Ford would have gotten Tatum but would Rickma have gotten him?

The question is silly / pointless, but what else are we going to talk about in the offseason.

First some background:

Rick last coached the Billikens in 2011-12 (NCAA loss to Michigan State, Conklin's Sr year).  Majerus passed away December 2012.  Crew then "coached" the 2 NCAA teams in 2012-13 (loss to Oregon) and 2013-14 (miracle win over NC State, loss to Louisville) followed up by two awful season in 2014-15 and 2015-16 with a ton of turnover.  Tatum's year at Duke was 2016-17 which was also Ford's first year at SLU.

Tatum chose Duke in July 2015, so Crews was still coach and SLU had endured one awful season, but had 3 NCAA appearances before that.

In an alternate reality where Majerus is alive and still coaching SLU in at least summer 2015 to land Tatum and presumably 2016-17 since Tatum may have gone elsewhere upon his passing a lot of other things would have changed with the SLU program as well.  Here are my assumption on what would've transpired with Majerus during those years:

  • The 2012-13 team would have made a much deeper NCAA run rather than being knocked off by Oregon.  They may have had an even better regular season and gotten a better seed or just been more prepared in the NCAAs to advance.  I'm not sure how far they'd have gone, but let's say Elite Eight just for this exercise.
  • Keith Carter would have stuck around with the Billikens instead of jumping ship and would have developed into a better overall player more quickly under Majerus.  Who the heck knows with Jared Drew.  He likely still gets run off.  Other players on the team might have developed differently / better as well (Manning, Glaze) or been run off earlier and replaced with new prospects.
  • Our 2013 recruiting class which ended up being Crawford, Lancona, and Agbeko would've been much, much better with Majerus as coach being healthy and actually recruiting while coming off stronger NCAA showings.
  • The 2013-14 team would've also made a deeper NCAA run.  Again, they may have had an even better regular season and gotten a better seed or just been more prepared in the NCAAs to advance.  They would've had better depth with better players being brought in by Majerus and Carter still around.
  • With better players in 2014-15, SLU would've still made the NCAAs, but likely not have done much after losing so many key pieces.

Now in summer 2015 Tatum is deciding between a SLU team coming off 4 straight NCAAs (including a couple of deep runs) with a HOF coach and likely a more talented roster versus Duke instead of a SLU team with an awful coach who rode the previous coach's players to 2 NCAAs, but was then coming off a terrible year with his own players.

Majerus would have been 68 by the time Tatum arrived, so despite having coached at SLU 9 years in this alternate reality (and presumably worked out issues w Fr. Biondi and/or outlasted him) there may have been some concerns about how long he'd be around at SLU especially given previous health issues.  However, I can't see that being a factor for Tatum because he's only sticking around one year regardless.

TLDR: Yes, of course Tatum who seems to love SLU now (despite having gone to Duke) would have come in this scenario where Majerus is healthy and SLU has been really good for 4+ years.  He would've led SLU deep into the NCAAs during their 6th straight NCAA appearance and then jumped to the NBA as a SLU legend surpassing Larry Hughes as the greatest one year player in SLU history.

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Come on people, Tatum always loved SLU and felt like he belonged here. He went to Duke because he would have ruined his professional career had he come to SLU under Crews. Simple as daylight. Love on one side reality and necessity on the other. Tatum chose reality and necessity, he could also have gone elsewhere but Duke happened to be his choice. That has nothing to do with how he felt and still feels about SLU. Seeing him with a Billiken's T shirt on is absolutely great!

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1 hour ago, Old guy said:

Come on people, Tatum always loved SLU and felt like he belonged here. He went to Duke because he would have ruined his professional career had he come to SLU under Crews. Simple as daylight. Love on one side reality and necessity on the other. Tatum chose reality and necessity, he could also have gone elsewhere but Duke happened to be his choice. That has nothing to do with how he felt and still feels about SLU. Seeing him with a Billiken's T shirt on is absolutely great!

Uh, no.  Pro scouts knew his abilities while still in HS.  He could have spent one year at Ted Drewes and he would still be in the NBA.

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21 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

Uh, no.  Pro scouts knew his abilities while still in HS.  He could have spent one year at Ted Drewes and he would still be in the NBA.

Agree, but have to assume he would have showed up to camp a lot heavier and out of shape.

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7 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:

As an aside. I really do love the nickname RickMa

RIP RickMa.

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7 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

Uh, no.  Pro scouts knew his abilities while still in HS.  He could have spent one year at Ted Drewes and he would still be in the NBA.

And get a sponsor.

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Apparently, McBroom broke the Paul George stuff on Instagram walking with him at an airport.

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16 minutes ago, davidnark said:

Apparently, McBroom broke the Paul George stuff on Instagram walking with him at an airport.

I saw that and now dislike Paul George. 

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Just flipped on The Basketball Tournament to see Willie Reed playing for Demarcus Cousins’s Loyalty Is Love team.

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Luis Santos was on the Dominican Republic's Pan American team.  DR finished in 4th in the 8 team tourney. (US was 3rd.) Santos played in all five games as a reserve, averaged 3.0 ppg and 3.4 rpg in 14 mpg.  Henriquez was not on the team.

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33 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:

Luis Santos was on the Dominican Republic's Pan American team.  DR finished in 4th in the 8 team tourney. (US was 3rd.) Santos played in all five games as a reserve, averaged 3.0 ppg and 3.4 rpg in 14 mpg.  Henriquez was not on the team.

Does Henriquez even have DR citizenship? His bio lists him as an Orlando FL native.

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Congratulations to Jermaine Bishop, he just got a good break. All the best.

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