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I think based on the way people felt about traingate that most people here would love to have basketball success regardless of morals.

If that incident, where charges were not filed had happened at your school, those involved may have been suspeneded for an exhibition game. You really don't want to get into this debate. Here are just a few highlights from the type of program aj claims people would "beg for"...

2003 - Ricky Clemons

In January of 2003, Missouri point guard Ricky Clemons is arrested and charged with second-degree domestic assault for allegedly choking his girlfriend. Clemons is suspended for a Jan. 18 game against Oklahoma State but is reinstated by Head Coach Snyder for MU’s next game against Iowa State.

In February, Clemons enters a not-guilty plea to a felony charge of second-degree domestic assault. In April, Clemons pleads guilty to two Class A misdemeanor charges of third-degree domestic assault and false imprisonment. Clemons is suspended for the 2003-04 season, but the athletic department says it will honor his scholarship. In June, Clemons is sentenced to 60 days jail time for false imprisonment. Clemons receives two years supervised probation for the third-degree domestic assault charge.

In July, Clemons suffers a severe concussion, broken ribs and a punctured lung when he overturns an ATV at UM system President Elson Floyd’s house. The accident occurs at 9:45 p.m. It is later revealed that Clemons has a 5 p.m. curfew with the Reality House. Clemons is ordered to surrender to Boone County Jail within two hours of his release from University Hospital. His work release privileges that had allowed Clemons to leave Reality House for study sessions were revoked. Later that month, MU Athletic Director Mike Alden dismisses Clemons and revokes his scholarship.

In August, Clemons’ ex-girlfriend says Clemons received extra tutoring while he played basketball at MU. She also says Clemons received money and clothes from Head Coach Snyder. Snyder had previously admitted to giving Clemons two pairs of shoes and a pair of sweat pants. MU President Floyd expands the university’s investigation of Clemons to include the entire men’s basketball program.

In December, the Columbia Tribune and St. Louis Post Dispatch print excerpts of Clemons’ telephone conversations taped while he was in jail. Some of the conversations were between Clemons and Carmento Floyd, wife of MU president Floyd, who continued her relationship with Clemons against the university president’s advice and without his knowledge. The conversations included comments by Mrs. Floyd, who is black, that Clemons should look to a historically black sorority to find a girlfriend rather than to a mostly white sorority.

September 2004 – Jimmy McKinney Arrest

Missouri basketball player Jimmy McKinney was ticketed by University of Missouri police for driving without insurance and failure to register his vehicle and was arrested on two counts of failure to appear in court. After running his license, they learned of outstanding warrants for McKinney stemming from a traffic stop in May.

"We’re aware of the situation, and we’re handling it internally," said Sam Fleury, the MU athletic department’s assistant director of media relations.

The Missouri Highway Patrol stopped McKinney in May and issued him tickets for driving without insurance and for not having a title for his vehicle.

According to online court records, McKinney failed to pay fines for both charges. A warrant for the charge of driving without insurance was issued on July 28, and a second warrant for the charge of not having a title was issued on Aug. 30.

McKinney received speeding tickets on two other occasions in the past year. With the first one in November, McKinney also received a ticket for driving with someone else’s license plates on his vehicle. He received a speeding ticket in January, at which time he was issued another ticket for failing to register his vehicle.

2004 – Opening of Paige Arena

In October, amidst much fanfare, the new Paige Arena is opened at a cost of $75 million. In exchange for $25 million towards the cost of the arena, Bill and Nancy Laurie, who are among the heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune, are allowed naming rights. They choose “Paige” in honor of their daughter Paige Laurie. Paige also has the honor of cutting the ribbon at the building’s opening.

Many MU fans weren’t wild about the idea of their new basketball arena being named for a 22-year-old whose only tie to the university was that she was the daughter of multimillion-dollar donors.

2004 – Renaming of Paige Arena to Mizzou Arena

The Paige name for the arena came under fire after a national television program reported that Paige Laurie had paid a University of Southern California classmate about $20,000 over 3½ years to do her class work. The report resulted in a flurry of controversy, causing the Lauries to relinquish their rights to name the building. University of Missouri curators quickly voted to rename the building Mizzou Arena. UM system President Floyd told reporters the new name is considered permanent and said it will cost $35,000 to $40,000 to change signs at the arena.

2004 – NCAA Probation

In November of 2004, MU was cited for findings of violations of NCAA legislation in the men's basketball program concerning recruiting legislation, honesty standards, impermissible telephone contacts, impermissible extra benefits and failure to monitor NCAA rules compliance in the men's basketball program.

In the public report, it cited that “the men’s basketball staff had the benefit of extensive rules educations and proper compliance procedures. Nevertheless, the men’s basketball staff took risks and pushed the limits with respect to recruiting legislation, particularly while recruiting top prospects.” The recruiting violations dated back to 1999, the first year of Snyder’s term as Head Coach and just seven years after the end of Missouri’s last probation.

Penalties included a public reprimand and censure; three years of probation; off-campus recruiting prohibited in men's basketball for a period of one year beginning on November 3, 2004, and concluding on November 2, 2005, to include off-campus appearances at which prospects may be in attendance; the institution self-imposed a reduction in the number of financial aid awards from 13 to 12 for the 2005-06 academic year and in addition the committee imposed a further reduction of financial aid awards from 13 to 11 for the 2006-07; the number of official expense paid visits from 12 to nine for the 2004-05 academic year and from 12 to nine for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 academic years; annual compliance reporting required.

"Our institution has taken exhaustive steps to ensure that our coaches, staff, student-athletes an supporters comply with NCAA rules," MU Athletic Director Mike Alden said in the press release. "This report shows that our compliance education program is thorough and that we are committed to adhering to the bylaws of the NCAA."

That, however, does not mean that MU escaped the more than yearlong investigation without suffering significant penalties for the numerous recruiting violations uncovered. Those violations included improper contact with recruits and impermissible benefits for prospects and their coaches. The NCAA infractions committee placed the Tigers’ basketball program on probation for three years, took away one scholarship for the 2005-06 season and two more for 2006-07 and handed out several recruiting restrictions. None of the sanctions was contested by the university.

The most severe penalty is clearly the committee’s decision to prohibit Snyder and his staff from off-campus recruiting for a full year. That decision will keep the coaching staff from having in-home visits with recruits, scouting high school basketball games in-season and attending summer all-star camps, which provide coaches the opportunity to view hundreds of potential prospects at once.

Often, the impact of recruiting restrictions appears years later. The last time Missouri underwent an NCAA investigation, the NCAA found MU guilty of a lack of institutional control and cited two assistant coaches for unethical conduct. MU was banned from postseason play in 1991, was allowed to issue a total of three scholarships the next two years and couldn’t offer any expense-paid official visits to campus for one year. The Tigers performed fine until the 1995-96 season, when they began a three-year hiatus from qualifying for the NCAA Tournament.

Additionally, two of Head Coach Snyder's assistant coaches, Lane Odom and Tony Harvey, were forced to resign over the scandal, but Snyder was able to remain as Missouri's coach.

Harvey, 37, was suspended after the university made public a notice of allegations from the NCAA. Among those claims was that Harvey gave $250 to a player. The university redacted the player’s name from the released report, but sources identify him as former Tigers guard Ricky Clemons. Harvey has denied the allegation. Besides the $250 payment, Harvey is accused of buying meals for 10 men affiliated with nonscholastic basketball teams on 31 occasions from 1999 to 2002. The NCAA also said Harvey "acted contrary to the principles of ethical conduct" by concealing violations from MU by falsifying expense reports about meals with AAU coaches and by giving Clemons $250.

Odom resigned on the same day the notice of allegations was released. Odom is accused of two instances of impermissible contact with recruits and three instances of impermissible phone calls to recruits. The NCAA also claims Odom committed numerous rules violations in relation to Clemons, including purchasing a hotel-room movie for him, giving Clemons rides and letting the player stay rent-free at another player’s apartment.

February 2006 – Head Coach Quin Synder Resigns

Missouri basketball coach Quin Snyder resigned one day after saying he planned to finish what had become a disappointing season. After a 10-5 start that culminated with an overtime win against rival Kansas, the Tigers lost six straight.

"What he told us is, it's an opportunity to get back to playing basketball. All the speculation was a heavy burden," sports information director Dave Reiter said.

Snyder left after a seven-year stint, compiling a 126-91 record. Snyder had 20-win teams in three of his first four seasons, including an appearance in the final eight. But the Tigers were only 42-42 since then, and attendance has dropped despite a new arena that opened the previous season.

The day before his resignation, Snyder said "I'm coaching my team, so I'm going to keep doing that until someone tells me not to, keep working as hard as I can.” After resigning, Snyder would go on to say that Missouri Athletic Director Mike Alden encouraged him to think about resigning as early as the previous season. Later, notes from MU Chancellor Brady Deaton's investigation show Alden suggested Snyder consider a mid-season resignation more than a year previous. Deaton's notes also show Snyder asked for a public show of support, but Deaton and Alden rejected that request. However, Deaton's notes didn’t shed any light on the role Alden's assistant, Gary Link, played in Snyder's eventual resignation last month. Snyder said Link delivered an ultimatum to him on Feb. 9, just hours after Snyder told reporters he would finish this season.

The University of Missouri Board of Curators called Deaton's report inadequate and asked for an independent investigation of the circumstances surrounding Snyder's resignation. UM President Floyd appointed two independent investigators to do that.

March 2006 – Michael Anderson Announced as Head Coach

Michael Anderson, the head coach at University of Alabama-Birmingham the previous four years, becomes the 16th head basketball coach in Mizzou history.

February 2007 – Michael Anderson, Jr. Arrest

The son of Missouri basketball coach Mike Anderson was suspended indefinitely following an early-morning DUI arrest. Anderson Jr., a reserve guard who has played in only 10 games that season, was arrested by campus police as he drove alone near Mizzou Arena, an athletic department spokesman said.

July 2007 – DeMarre Carroll

DeMarre Carroll was shot in the ankle while trying to break up a fight outside a downtown nightclub. Police say the shooting followed an argument among nightclub

employees, customers and people outside the club.

FOLLOWING THE SHOOTING, THE TIGERS IMPLEMENTED A NO-TOLERANCE POLICY WITH REGARD TO THE TEAM'S PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY.

July 2007 – Kalen Grimes Arrest

Kalen Grimes was arrested for allegedly striking a man with the butt end of a shotgun in suburban St. Louis. Grimes was arrested at about 3 a.m. a Dairy Queen in his hometown of Florissant, Mo. following a fight outside of the restaurant. Under the No-Tolerance Policy, Grimes was later dismissed by Missouri but was allowed to stay on scholarship until he graduated.

October 2007 – Darryl Butterfield Arrest

Missouri basketball player Darryl Butterfield was suspended from competition after he was arrested for allegedly punching his ex-girlfriend during a domestic dispute. The 22-year-old Butterfield, a reserve forward entering his senior season with the Tigers, was arrested on suspicion of third-degree domestic assault and two outstanding misdemeanor warrants from Iron County. He pleaded guilty and received a suspended sentence and six months' probation when the charge was downgraded to peace disturbance. Butterfield was suspended for one exhibition game.

January 2008 – Athena Night Club

Stefhon Hannah and Jason Horton were arrested for their roles in a fight outside Athena Night Club hours after the Tigers returned from a victory against Colorado. Boone County prosecutors charged each with third-degree misdemeanor assault for allegedly scuffling with two employees of the Nikai Mediterranean Grill. The fight left Hannah -who was kicked off the team for missing two weeks of classes after the incident - with a broken jaw.

The incident led to a two-game suspension for Horton and forward Darryl Butterfield and one-game suspensions for forwards Leo Lyons and Marshall Brown. The three forwards were suspended for violating curfew.

Hannah confronted an unnamed restaurant employee over what he considered poor service around 1 a.m., hours after the team returned from its first road victory of the season at Colorado. The employee told police and prosecutors that Hannah then pushed him from behind while the worker was locking the door at closing time. Horton then approached the pair as if to break up the disagreement, but before he could intervene, Hannah punched the employee in the face. The employee then grabbed Hannah by the shirt collar "and pulled himself into Hannah so as not to be struck again," the statement reads. At that point, Horton hit the employee on the right side of his neck, above the shoulder. The employee said he held onto Hannah while avoiding additional punches thrown by Horton. The two fell to the floor. An unnamed co-worker then came to the employee’s assistance. The co-worker said he punched Hannah only after the player attempted to hit him.

Through it all, Anderson faced questions about the sincerity of the "zero-tolerance" policy he instituted the previous summer, the one that allowed Butterfield and later Horton back on the court after their arrests.

Hannah later pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace.

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If that incident, where charges were not filed had happened at your school, those involved may have been suspeneded for an exhibition game. You really don't want to get into this debate. Here are just a few highlights from the type of program aj claims people would "beg for"...

2003 - Ricky Clemons

In January of 2003, Missouri point guard Ricky Clemons is arrested and charged with second-degree domestic assault for allegedly choking his girlfriend. Clemons is suspended for a Jan. 18 game against Oklahoma State but is reinstated by Head Coach Snyder for MU’s next game against Iowa State.

In February, Clemons enters a not-guilty plea to a felony charge of second-degree domestic assault. In April, Clemons pleads guilty to two Class A misdemeanor charges of third-degree domestic assault and false imprisonment. Clemons is suspended for the 2003-04 season, but the athletic department says it will honor his scholarship. In June, Clemons is sentenced to 60 days jail time for false imprisonment. Clemons receives two years supervised probation for the third-degree domestic assault charge.

In July, Clemons suffers a severe concussion, broken ribs and a punctured lung when he overturns an ATV at UM system President Elson Floyd’s house. The accident occurs at 9:45 p.m. It is later revealed that Clemons has a 5 p.m. curfew with the Reality House. Clemons is ordered to surrender to Boone County Jail within two hours of his release from University Hospital. His work release privileges that had allowed Clemons to leave Reality House for study sessions were revoked. Later that month, MU Athletic Director Mike Alden dismisses Clemons and revokes his scholarship.

In August, Clemons’ ex-girlfriend says Clemons received extra tutoring while he played basketball at MU. She also says Clemons received money and clothes from Head Coach Snyder. Snyder had previously admitted to giving Clemons two pairs of shoes and a pair of sweat pants. MU President Floyd expands the university’s investigation of Clemons to include the entire men’s basketball program.

In December, the Columbia Tribune and St. Louis Post Dispatch print excerpts of Clemons’ telephone conversations taped while he was in jail. Some of the conversations were between Clemons and Carmento Floyd, wife of MU president Floyd, who continued her relationship with Clemons against the university president’s advice and without his knowledge. The conversations included comments by Mrs. Floyd, who is black, that Clemons should look to a historically black sorority to find a girlfriend rather than to a mostly white sorority.

September 2004 – Jimmy McKinney Arrest

Missouri basketball player Jimmy McKinney was ticketed by University of Missouri police for driving without insurance and failure to register his vehicle and was arrested on two counts of failure to appear in court. After running his license, they learned of outstanding warrants for McKinney stemming from a traffic stop in May.

"We’re aware of the situation, and we’re handling it internally," said Sam Fleury, the MU athletic department’s assistant director of media relations.

The Missouri Highway Patrol stopped McKinney in May and issued him tickets for driving without insurance and for not having a title for his vehicle.

According to online court records, McKinney failed to pay fines for both charges. A warrant for the charge of driving without insurance was issued on July 28, and a second warrant for the charge of not having a title was issued on Aug. 30.

McKinney received speeding tickets on two other occasions in the past year. With the first one in November, McKinney also received a ticket for driving with someone else’s license plates on his vehicle. He received a speeding ticket in January, at which time he was issued another ticket for failing to register his vehicle.

2004 – Opening of Paige Arena

In October, amidst much fanfare, the new Paige Arena is opened at a cost of $75 million. In exchange for $25 million towards the cost of the arena, Bill and Nancy Laurie, who are among the heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune, are allowed naming rights. They choose “Paige” in honor of their daughter Paige Laurie. Paige also has the honor of cutting the ribbon at the building’s opening.

Many MU fans weren’t wild about the idea of their new basketball arena being named for a 22-year-old whose only tie to the university was that she was the daughter of multimillion-dollar donors.

2004 – Renaming of Paige Arena to Mizzou Arena

The Paige name for the arena came under fire after a national television program reported that Paige Laurie had paid a University of Southern California classmate about $20,000 over 3½ years to do her class work. The report resulted in a flurry of controversy, causing the Lauries to relinquish their rights to name the building. University of Missouri curators quickly voted to rename the building Mizzou Arena. UM system President Floyd told reporters the new name is considered permanent and said it will cost $35,000 to $40,000 to change signs at the arena.

2004 – NCAA Probation

In November of 2004, MU was cited for findings of violations of NCAA legislation in the men's basketball program concerning recruiting legislation, honesty standards, impermissible telephone contacts, impermissible extra benefits and failure to monitor NCAA rules compliance in the men's basketball program.

In the public report, it cited that “the men’s basketball staff had the benefit of extensive rules educations and proper compliance procedures. Nevertheless, the men’s basketball staff took risks and pushed the limits with respect to recruiting legislation, particularly while recruiting top prospects.” The recruiting violations dated back to 1999, the first year of Snyder’s term as Head Coach and just seven years after the end of Missouri’s last probation.

Penalties included a public reprimand and censure; three years of probation; off-campus recruiting prohibited in men's basketball for a period of one year beginning on November 3, 2004, and concluding on November 2, 2005, to include off-campus appearances at which prospects may be in attendance; the institution self-imposed a reduction in the number of financial aid awards from 13 to 12 for the 2005-06 academic year and in addition the committee imposed a further reduction of financial aid awards from 13 to 11 for the 2006-07; the number of official expense paid visits from 12 to nine for the 2004-05 academic year and from 12 to nine for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 academic years; annual compliance reporting required.

"Our institution has taken exhaustive steps to ensure that our coaches, staff, student-athletes an supporters comply with NCAA rules," MU Athletic Director Mike Alden said in the press release. "This report shows that our compliance education program is thorough and that we are committed to adhering to the bylaws of the NCAA."

That, however, does not mean that MU escaped the more than yearlong investigation without suffering significant penalties for the numerous recruiting violations uncovered. Those violations included improper contact with recruits and impermissible benefits for prospects and their coaches. The NCAA infractions committee placed the Tigers’ basketball program on probation for three years, took away one scholarship for the 2005-06 season and two more for 2006-07 and handed out several recruiting restrictions. None of the sanctions was contested by the university.

The most severe penalty is clearly the committee’s decision to prohibit Snyder and his staff from off-campus recruiting for a full year. That decision will keep the coaching staff from having in-home visits with recruits, scouting high school basketball games in-season and attending summer all-star camps, which provide coaches the opportunity to view hundreds of potential prospects at once.

Often, the impact of recruiting restrictions appears years later. The last time Missouri underwent an NCAA investigation, the NCAA found MU guilty of a lack of institutional control and cited two assistant coaches for unethical conduct. MU was banned from postseason play in 1991, was allowed to issue a total of three scholarships the next two years and couldn’t offer any expense-paid official visits to campus for one year. The Tigers performed fine until the 1995-96 season, when they began a three-year hiatus from qualifying for the NCAA Tournament.

Additionally, two of Head Coach Snyder's assistant coaches, Lane Odom and Tony Harvey, were forced to resign over the scandal, but Snyder was able to remain as Missouri's coach.

Harvey, 37, was suspended after the university made public a notice of allegations from the NCAA. Among those claims was that Harvey gave $250 to a player. The university redacted the player’s name from the released report, but sources identify him as former Tigers guard Ricky Clemons. Harvey has denied the allegation. Besides the $250 payment, Harvey is accused of buying meals for 10 men affiliated with nonscholastic basketball teams on 31 occasions from 1999 to 2002. The NCAA also said Harvey "acted contrary to the principles of ethical conduct" by concealing violations from MU by falsifying expense reports about meals with AAU coaches and by giving Clemons $250.

Odom resigned on the same day the notice of allegations was released. Odom is accused of two instances of impermissible contact with recruits and three instances of impermissible phone calls to recruits. The NCAA also claims Odom committed numerous rules violations in relation to Clemons, including purchasing a hotel-room movie for him, giving Clemons rides and letting the player stay rent-free at another player’s apartment.

February 2006 – Head Coach Quin Synder Resigns

Missouri basketball coach Quin Snyder resigned one day after saying he planned to finish what had become a disappointing season. After a 10-5 start that culminated with an overtime win against rival Kansas, the Tigers lost six straight.

"What he told us is, it's an opportunity to get back to playing basketball. All the speculation was a heavy burden," sports information director Dave Reiter said.

Snyder left after a seven-year stint, compiling a 126-91 record. Snyder had 20-win teams in three of his first four seasons, including an appearance in the final eight. But the Tigers were only 42-42 since then, and attendance has dropped despite a new arena that opened the previous season.

The day before his resignation, Snyder said "I'm coaching my team, so I'm going to keep doing that until someone tells me not to, keep working as hard as I can.” After resigning, Snyder would go on to say that Missouri Athletic Director Mike Alden encouraged him to think about resigning as early as the previous season. Later, notes from MU Chancellor Brady Deaton's investigation show Alden suggested Snyder consider a mid-season resignation more than a year previous. Deaton's notes also show Snyder asked for a public show of support, but Deaton and Alden rejected that request. However, Deaton's notes didn’t shed any light on the role Alden's assistant, Gary Link, played in Snyder's eventual resignation last month. Snyder said Link delivered an ultimatum to him on Feb. 9, just hours after Snyder told reporters he would finish this season.

The University of Missouri Board of Curators called Deaton's report inadequate and asked for an independent investigation of the circumstances surrounding Snyder's resignation. UM President Floyd appointed two independent investigators to do that.

March 2006 – Michael Anderson Announced as Head Coach

Michael Anderson, the head coach at University of Alabama-Birmingham the previous four years, becomes the 16th head basketball coach in Mizzou history.

February 2007 – Michael Anderson, Jr. Arrest

The son of Missouri basketball coach Mike Anderson was suspended indefinitely following an early-morning DUI arrest. Anderson Jr., a reserve guard who has played in only 10 games that season, was arrested by campus police as he drove alone near Mizzou Arena, an athletic department spokesman said.

July 2007 – DeMarre Carroll

DeMarre Carroll was shot in the ankle while trying to break up a fight outside a downtown nightclub. Police say the shooting followed an argument among nightclub

employees, customers and people outside the club.

FOLLOWING THE SHOOTING, THE TIGERS IMPLEMENTED A NO-TOLERANCE POLICY WITH REGARD TO THE TEAM'S PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY.

July 2007 – Kalen Grimes Arrest

Kalen Grimes was arrested for allegedly striking a man with the butt end of a shotgun in suburban St. Louis. Grimes was arrested at about 3 a.m. a Dairy Queen in his hometown of Florissant, Mo. following a fight outside of the restaurant. Under the No-Tolerance Policy, Grimes was later dismissed by Missouri but was allowed to stay on scholarship until he graduated.

October 2007 – Darryl Butterfield Arrest

Missouri basketball player Darryl Butterfield was suspended from competition after he was arrested for allegedly punching his ex-girlfriend during a domestic dispute. The 22-year-old Butterfield, a reserve forward entering his senior season with the Tigers, was arrested on suspicion of third-degree domestic assault and two outstanding misdemeanor warrants from Iron County. He pleaded guilty and received a suspended sentence and six months' probation when the charge was downgraded to peace disturbance. Butterfield was suspended for one exhibition game.

January 2008 – Athena Night Club

Stefhon Hannah and Jason Horton were arrested for their roles in a fight outside Athena Night Club hours after the Tigers returned from a victory against Colorado. Boone County prosecutors charged each with third-degree misdemeanor assault for allegedly scuffling with two employees of the Nikai Mediterranean Grill. The fight left Hannah -who was kicked off the team for missing two weeks of classes after the incident - with a broken jaw.

The incident led to a two-game suspension for Horton and forward Darryl Butterfield and one-game suspensions for forwards Leo Lyons and Marshall Brown. The three forwards were suspended for violating curfew.

Hannah confronted an unnamed restaurant employee over what he considered poor service around 1 a.m., hours after the team returned from its first road victory of the season at Colorado. The employee told police and prosecutors that Hannah then pushed him from behind while the worker was locking the door at closing time. Horton then approached the pair as if to break up the disagreement, but before he could intervene, Hannah punched the employee in the face. The employee then grabbed Hannah by the shirt collar "and pulled himself into Hannah so as not to be struck again," the statement reads. At that point, Horton hit the employee on the right side of his neck, above the shoulder. The employee said he held onto Hannah while avoiding additional punches thrown by Horton. The two fell to the floor. An unnamed co-worker then came to the employee’s assistance. The co-worker said he punched Hannah only after the player attempted to hit him.

Through it all, Anderson faced questions about the sincerity of the "zero-tolerance" policy he instituted the previous summer, the one that allowed Butterfield and later Horton back on the court after their arrests.

Hannah later pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace.

Wow you really did a lot of research (or a lot of plagiarizing) into an argument that I wasn't making. Interesting read, though.

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I think based on the way people felt about traingate that most people here would love to have basketball success regardless of morals.

When either program wins a title, then this argument makes more sense. Missouri has had more on-court success than SLU. I love how the "moral" argument comes up.

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When either program wins a title, then this argument makes more sense. Missouri has had more on-court success than SLU. I love how the "moral" argument comes up.

Love how all you guys are turning my comment into some sort of "Mizzou is holier than SLU" thing when it really isn't even about that.

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If that incident, where charges were not filed had happened at your school, those involved may have been suspeneded for an exhibition game. You really don't want to get into this debate. Here are just a few highlights from the type of program aj claims people would "beg for"...

2003 - Ricky Clemons

In January of 2003, Missouri point guard Ricky Clemons is arrested and charged with second-degree domestic assault for allegedly choking his girlfriend. Clemons is suspended for a Jan. 18 game against Oklahoma State but is reinstated by Head Coach Snyder for MU’s next game against Iowa State.

In February, Clemons enters a not-guilty plea to a felony charge of second-degree domestic assault. In April, Clemons pleads guilty to two Class A misdemeanor charges of third-degree domestic assault and false imprisonment. Clemons is suspended for the 2003-04 season, but the athletic department says it will honor his scholarship. In June, Clemons is sentenced to 60 days jail time for false imprisonment. Clemons receives two years supervised probation for the third-degree domestic assault charge.

In July, Clemons suffers a severe concussion, broken ribs and a punctured lung when he overturns an ATV at UM system President Elson Floyd’s house. The accident occurs at 9:45 p.m. It is later revealed that Clemons has a 5 p.m. curfew with the Reality House. Clemons is ordered to surrender to Boone County Jail within two hours of his release from University Hospital. His work release privileges that had allowed Clemons to leave Reality House for study sessions were revoked. Later that month, MU Athletic Director Mike Alden dismisses Clemons and revokes his scholarship.

In August, Clemons’ ex-girlfriend says Clemons received extra tutoring while he played basketball at MU. She also says Clemons received money and clothes from Head Coach Snyder. Snyder had previously admitted to giving Clemons two pairs of shoes and a pair of sweat pants. MU President Floyd expands the university’s investigation of Clemons to include the entire men’s basketball program.

In December, the Columbia Tribune and St. Louis Post Dispatch print excerpts of Clemons’ telephone conversations taped while he was in jail. Some of the conversations were between Clemons and Carmento Floyd, wife of MU president Floyd, who continued her relationship with Clemons against the university president’s advice and without his knowledge. The conversations included comments by Mrs. Floyd, who is black, that Clemons should look to a historically black sorority to find a girlfriend rather than to a mostly white sorority.

September 2004 – Jimmy McKinney Arrest

Missouri basketball player Jimmy McKinney was ticketed by University of Missouri police for driving without insurance and failure to register his vehicle and was arrested on two counts of failure to appear in court. After running his license, they learned of outstanding warrants for McKinney stemming from a traffic stop in May.

"We’re aware of the situation, and we’re handling it internally," said Sam Fleury, the MU athletic department’s assistant director of media relations.

The Missouri Highway Patrol stopped McKinney in May and issued him tickets for driving without insurance and for not having a title for his vehicle.

According to online court records, McKinney failed to pay fines for both charges. A warrant for the charge of driving without insurance was issued on July 28, and a second warrant for the charge of not having a title was issued on Aug. 30.

McKinney received speeding tickets on two other occasions in the past year. With the first one in November, McKinney also received a ticket for driving with someone else’s license plates on his vehicle. He received a speeding ticket in January, at which time he was issued another ticket for failing to register his vehicle.

2004 – Opening of Paige Arena

In October, amidst much fanfare, the new Paige Arena is opened at a cost of $75 million. In exchange for $25 million towards the cost of the arena, Bill and Nancy Laurie, who are among the heirs to the Wal-Mart fortune, are allowed naming rights. They choose “Paige” in honor of their daughter Paige Laurie. Paige also has the honor of cutting the ribbon at the building’s opening.

Many MU fans weren’t wild about the idea of their new basketball arena being named for a 22-year-old whose only tie to the university was that she was the daughter of multimillion-dollar donors.

2004 – Renaming of Paige Arena to Mizzou Arena

The Paige name for the arena came under fire after a national television program reported that Paige Laurie had paid a University of Southern California classmate about $20,000 over 3½ years to do her class work. The report resulted in a flurry of controversy, causing the Lauries to relinquish their rights to name the building. University of Missouri curators quickly voted to rename the building Mizzou Arena. UM system President Floyd told reporters the new name is considered permanent and said it will cost $35,000 to $40,000 to change signs at the arena.

2004 – NCAA Probation

In November of 2004, MU was cited for findings of violations of NCAA legislation in the men's basketball program concerning recruiting legislation, honesty standards, impermissible telephone contacts, impermissible extra benefits and failure to monitor NCAA rules compliance in the men's basketball program.

In the public report, it cited that “the men’s basketball staff had the benefit of extensive rules educations and proper compliance procedures. Nevertheless, the men’s basketball staff took risks and pushed the limits with respect to recruiting legislation, particularly while recruiting top prospects.” The recruiting violations dated back to 1999, the first year of Snyder’s term as Head Coach and just seven years after the end of Missouri’s last probation.

Penalties included a public reprimand and censure; three years of probation; off-campus recruiting prohibited in men's basketball for a period of one year beginning on November 3, 2004, and concluding on November 2, 2005, to include off-campus appearances at which prospects may be in attendance; the institution self-imposed a reduction in the number of financial aid awards from 13 to 12 for the 2005-06 academic year and in addition the committee imposed a further reduction of financial aid awards from 13 to 11 for the 2006-07; the number of official expense paid visits from 12 to nine for the 2004-05 academic year and from 12 to nine for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 academic years; annual compliance reporting required.

"Our institution has taken exhaustive steps to ensure that our coaches, staff, student-athletes an supporters comply with NCAA rules," MU Athletic Director Mike Alden said in the press release. "This report shows that our compliance education program is thorough and that we are committed to adhering to the bylaws of the NCAA."

That, however, does not mean that MU escaped the more than yearlong investigation without suffering significant penalties for the numerous recruiting violations uncovered. Those violations included improper contact with recruits and impermissible benefits for prospects and their coaches. The NCAA infractions committee placed the Tigers’ basketball program on probation for three years, took away one scholarship for the 2005-06 season and two more for 2006-07 and handed out several recruiting restrictions. None of the sanctions was contested by the university.

The most severe penalty is clearly the committee’s decision to prohibit Snyder and his staff from off-campus recruiting for a full year. That decision will keep the coaching staff from having in-home visits with recruits, scouting high school basketball games in-season and attending summer all-star camps, which provide coaches the opportunity to view hundreds of potential prospects at once.

Often, the impact of recruiting restrictions appears years later. The last time Missouri underwent an NCAA investigation, the NCAA found MU guilty of a lack of institutional control and cited two assistant coaches for unethical conduct. MU was banned from postseason play in 1991, was allowed to issue a total of three scholarships the next two years and couldn’t offer any expense-paid official visits to campus for one year. The Tigers performed fine until the 1995-96 season, when they began a three-year hiatus from qualifying for the NCAA Tournament.

Additionally, two of Head Coach Snyder's assistant coaches, Lane Odom and Tony Harvey, were forced to resign over the scandal, but Snyder was able to remain as Missouri's coach.

Harvey, 37, was suspended after the university made public a notice of allegations from the NCAA. Among those claims was that Harvey gave $250 to a player. The university redacted the player’s name from the released report, but sources identify him as former Tigers guard Ricky Clemons. Harvey has denied the allegation. Besides the $250 payment, Harvey is accused of buying meals for 10 men affiliated with nonscholastic basketball teams on 31 occasions from 1999 to 2002. The NCAA also said Harvey "acted contrary to the principles of ethical conduct" by concealing violations from MU by falsifying expense reports about meals with AAU coaches and by giving Clemons $250.

Odom resigned on the same day the notice of allegations was released. Odom is accused of two instances of impermissible contact with recruits and three instances of impermissible phone calls to recruits. The NCAA also claims Odom committed numerous rules violations in relation to Clemons, including purchasing a hotel-room movie for him, giving Clemons rides and letting the player stay rent-free at another player’s apartment.

February 2006 – Head Coach Quin Synder Resigns

Missouri basketball coach Quin Snyder resigned one day after saying he planned to finish what had become a disappointing season. After a 10-5 start that culminated with an overtime win against rival Kansas, the Tigers lost six straight.

"What he told us is, it's an opportunity to get back to playing basketball. All the speculation was a heavy burden," sports information director Dave Reiter said.

Snyder left after a seven-year stint, compiling a 126-91 record. Snyder had 20-win teams in three of his first four seasons, including an appearance in the final eight. But the Tigers were only 42-42 since then, and attendance has dropped despite a new arena that opened the previous season.

The day before his resignation, Snyder said "I'm coaching my team, so I'm going to keep doing that until someone tells me not to, keep working as hard as I can.” After resigning, Snyder would go on to say that Missouri Athletic Director Mike Alden encouraged him to think about resigning as early as the previous season. Later, notes from MU Chancellor Brady Deaton's investigation show Alden suggested Snyder consider a mid-season resignation more than a year previous. Deaton's notes also show Snyder asked for a public show of support, but Deaton and Alden rejected that request. However, Deaton's notes didn’t shed any light on the role Alden's assistant, Gary Link, played in Snyder's eventual resignation last month. Snyder said Link delivered an ultimatum to him on Feb. 9, just hours after Snyder told reporters he would finish this season.

The University of Missouri Board of Curators called Deaton's report inadequate and asked for an independent investigation of the circumstances surrounding Snyder's resignation. UM President Floyd appointed two independent investigators to do that.

March 2006 – Michael Anderson Announced as Head Coach

Michael Anderson, the head coach at University of Alabama-Birmingham the previous four years, becomes the 16th head basketball coach in Mizzou history.

February 2007 – Michael Anderson, Jr. Arrest

The son of Missouri basketball coach Mike Anderson was suspended indefinitely following an early-morning DUI arrest. Anderson Jr., a reserve guard who has played in only 10 games that season, was arrested by campus police as he drove alone near Mizzou Arena, an athletic department spokesman said.

July 2007 – DeMarre Carroll

DeMarre Carroll was shot in the ankle while trying to break up a fight outside a downtown nightclub. Police say the shooting followed an argument among nightclub

employees, customers and people outside the club.

FOLLOWING THE SHOOTING, THE TIGERS IMPLEMENTED A NO-TOLERANCE POLICY WITH REGARD TO THE TEAM'S PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY.

July 2007 – Kalen Grimes Arrest

Kalen Grimes was arrested for allegedly striking a man with the butt end of a shotgun in suburban St. Louis. Grimes was arrested at about 3 a.m. a Dairy Queen in his hometown of Florissant, Mo. following a fight outside of the restaurant. Under the No-Tolerance Policy, Grimes was later dismissed by Missouri but was allowed to stay on scholarship until he graduated.

October 2007 – Darryl Butterfield Arrest

Missouri basketball player Darryl Butterfield was suspended from competition after he was arrested for allegedly punching his ex-girlfriend during a domestic dispute. The 22-year-old Butterfield, a reserve forward entering his senior season with the Tigers, was arrested on suspicion of third-degree domestic assault and two outstanding misdemeanor warrants from Iron County. He pleaded guilty and received a suspended sentence and six months' probation when the charge was downgraded to peace disturbance. Butterfield was suspended for one exhibition game.

January 2008 – Athena Night Club

Stefhon Hannah and Jason Horton were arrested for their roles in a fight outside Athena Night Club hours after the Tigers returned from a victory against Colorado. Boone County prosecutors charged each with third-degree misdemeanor assault for allegedly scuffling with two employees of the Nikai Mediterranean Grill. The fight left Hannah -who was kicked off the team for missing two weeks of classes after the incident - with a broken jaw.

The incident led to a two-game suspension for Horton and forward Darryl Butterfield and one-game suspensions for forwards Leo Lyons and Marshall Brown. The three forwards were suspended for violating curfew.

Hannah confronted an unnamed restaurant employee over what he considered poor service around 1 a.m., hours after the team returned from its first road victory of the season at Colorado. The employee told police and prosecutors that Hannah then pushed him from behind while the worker was locking the door at closing time. Horton then approached the pair as if to break up the disagreement, but before he could intervene, Hannah punched the employee in the face. The employee then grabbed Hannah by the shirt collar "and pulled himself into Hannah so as not to be struck again," the statement reads. At that point, Horton hit the employee on the right side of his neck, above the shoulder. The employee said he held onto Hannah while avoiding additional punches thrown by Horton. The two fell to the floor. An unnamed co-worker then came to the employee’s assistance. The co-worker said he punched Hannah only after the player attempted to hit him.

Through it all, Anderson faced questions about the sincerity of the "zero-tolerance" policy he instituted the previous summer, the one that allowed Butterfield and later Horton back on the court after their arrests.

Hannah later pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace.

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All great candidates for whenever we resume that 'Name your favorite Mizzou Criminal' game.

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The morals of a fine catholic institution that "allegedly" defrauded the federal government.

I know, I know, the suit was frivilous, I'm sure.

St. Louis University Settles Suit Over Billing on

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7/10/2008

St. Louis University has agreed to pay $1 million to settle a whistle-blower lawsuit that alleged that the university's School of Public Health overbilled and defrauded the federal government by inflating the number of hours its faculty members worked on research grants and contracts.

In a statement released Tuesday, SLU denied that it cheated the government and said it was only settling to avoid legal costs.

SLU said the issue is not about researchers being paid for work they didn't do, but rather about how to pay them for extra time worked on grants.

SLU said this was a "good-faith dispute" over "how to apply highly complicated, cost-accounting principles governed by regulations that are hundreds of pages long."

The federal lawsuit was first filed in May of 2005 by Dr. E. Andrew Balas, the former dean of the SLU School of Public Health. He raised questions about grants the school had with the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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No, you certainly don't speak for everyone here. I have no interest in Ricky Clemons, the three-years probation and the cocaine addiction that the Quin Snyder era brought. A flukey trip to the Elite 8 as a #12 seed makes it all worthwhile? No thanks. Not the kind of failure I'm interested in. Sorry to disappoint you. There are a lot of programs that I hope that SLU could be more like, but Mizzou is not one of them.

As for the taint of NCAA violations, I would have thought the same thing. However, you hired a guy (Majerus), whose sanctions were similar to Quin. So I would say that SLU's ethics changed. They are like other programs, who only care about the bottom line and not doing it the right way. Billiken Roy appears to be one of the few to see the hypocrisy in that. True, Majerus hasn't committed a violation in four years at SLU, but then again Huggins hasn't committed one either at West VA. Still don't want Huggins at Mizzou or SLU, for that matter.

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The morals of a fine catholic institution that "allegedly" defrauded the federal government.

I know, I know, the suit was frivilous, I'm sure.

St. Louis University Settles Suit Over Billing on

stltoday.com

7/10/2008

St. Louis University has agreed to pay $1 million to settle a whistle-blower lawsuit that alleged that the university's School of Public Health overbilled and defrauded the federal government by inflating the number of hours its faculty members worked on research grants and contracts.

In a statement released Tuesday, SLU denied that it cheated the government and said it was only settling to avoid legal costs.

SLU said the issue is not about researchers being paid for work they didn't do, but rather about how to pay them for extra time worked on grants.

SLU said this was a "good-faith dispute" over "how to apply highly complicated, cost-accounting principles governed by regulations that are hundreds of pages long."

The federal lawsuit was first filed in May of 2005 by Dr. E. Andrew Balas, the former dean of the SLU School of Public Health. He raised questions about grants the school had with the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

I don't think that's really related at all. Not worth firing up a stupid debate over.

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The morals of a fine catholic institution that "allegedly" defrauded the federal government.

I know, I know, the suit was frivilous, I'm sure.

St. Louis University Settles Suit Over Billing on

stltoday.com

7/10/2008

St. Louis University has agreed to pay $1 million to settle a whistle-blower lawsuit that alleged that the university's School of Public Health overbilled and defrauded the federal government by inflating the number of hours its faculty members worked on research grants and contracts.

In a statement released Tuesday, SLU denied that it cheated the government and said it was only settling to avoid legal costs.

SLU said the issue is not about researchers being paid for work they didn't do, but rather about how to pay them for extra time worked on grants.

SLU said this was a "good-faith dispute" over "how to apply highly complicated, cost-accounting principles governed by regulations that are hundreds of pages long."

The federal lawsuit was first filed in May of 2005 by Dr. E. Andrew Balas, the former dean of the SLU School of Public Health. He raised questions about grants the school had with the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Seriously?

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As for the taint of NCAA violations, I would have thought the same thing. However, you hired a guy (Majerus), whose sanctions were similar to Quin. So I would say that SLU's ethics changed. They are like other programs, who only care about the bottom line and not doing it the right way. Billiken Roy appears to be one of the few to see the hypocrisy in that. True, Majerus hasn't committed a violation in four years at SLU, but then again Huggins hasn't committed one either at West VA. Still don't want Huggins at Mizzou or SLU, for that matter.

AJ, what do you mean "you hired" a guy??? Haven't you tried to portray it like you were a SLU fan? "They" are like other programs"? You mean you really aren't a SLU fan? You had us all fooled. :P

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Shaka Smart is staying at VCU. Got a big raise, a 5-year extension that will pay him $1.2 million annually.

NC State was likely offering more than that. Now they get to follow Georgia Tech and Mizzou by hiring and overpaying a mediocre coach who has yet to prove himself as a winner outside of the NIT.

As a side note, it's been fun watching the Mizzou meltdown that has spilled over to this board for some reason- I've really gotten to beef up the Ignored User List.

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Shaka Smart is staying at VCU. Got a big raise, a 5-year extension that will pay him $1.2 million annually.

NC State was likely offering more than that. Now they get to follow Georgia Tech and Mizzou by hiring and overpaying a mediocre coach who has yet to prove himself as a winner outside of the NIT.

As a side note, it's been fun watching the Mizzou meltdown that has spilled over to this board for some reason- I've really gotten to beef up the Ignored User List.

If you enjoy this, check out Bernie's Pressbox. It seems the only one trying to spin the positives of this hire is ultimate Mizzou tool Moe Szyslak. What a delusional group of homers.

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If you enjoy this, check out Bernie's Pressbox. It seems the only one trying to spin the positives of this hire is ultimate Mizzou tool Moe Szyslak. What a delusional group of homers.

I could write about as much as you did earlier about how stupid this sentence is but I'll let you figure it out on your own.

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I could write about as much as you did earlier about how stupid this sentence is but I'll let you figure it out on your own.

I wouldn't expect you to get it. Who cares what you think. You're on BILLIKEN board seeking approval from SLU fans about your program.

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ACE always find the trolls. He made Metz his b**ch in 2009/2010.

Thank you. Aj is far worse than Metz. He plays the old "I'm really a SLU fan" routine, more like banned billiphan/postcard or powerballer used to do.

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of course bernie is going to look at the positives. he just failed miserably at announcing the matt painter deal and im sure that ticked off a lot of mizzou officials. if you have not noticed, bernie is bipolar. today he will like the hire while he still has his tail between his legs. in a month after it all has blown over he could change his tune completely. I also think he is a pompous a-hole who is so wrapped up in himself he neglects any other local opinion. also likes to see himself as the sheriff of twitter. IMO.

thanks for reading, Randy.

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