almaman Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Ha I doubt any time soon. Aside from the Steelcote, Lindseed Oil Bldg, and the new construction projects in Prospect Yards, I know the developer has plans for some mix-use new construction just east of Captain D's and Rally's along Chouteau extending North. Fast food car dining doesn't get much better than that location. View of midtown stretching east to the arch is awesome. Slu let the dogs out? likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiCAN Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 https://www.kmov.com/news/city-foundry-stl-attracts-restaurants-new-businesses-to-midtown/article_0e93ee52-5fa0-11e9-8e7a-3f3da3ca3aab.html Not familiar with most of these: " In addition, the following five new restaurants will be added: Buenos Aires Cafe, Chela Tapas, Murf's Deli, Natalie's Cakes & more, and City Taco Shack." This is in addition to: " Eight restaurants have already signed onto to moving into the food hall, including CropCircle, Good Day, Hello Poke, Lost & Found: A Burger and Pizza Joint, Juice Box Central, Mokyu Mokyu, Press Waffle Co., Sumax: Hummas & Wraps, UKraft and Kalbi Taco Shack." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 OK you have 13 new restaurants scheduled for the Foundry. This is great. How many do you think will be there 6 months after? It all depends on how many people become regulars. I am pretty sure that any number of these 13 restaurants will not be there 6 months after the opening. Depending on how many people work in the area, there may be enough traffic to keep a number of them alive, not all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not necessarily a "Midtown Development," but definitely some good proximity to the SLU medical campus. Will be really interesting to see how new developments fill in the Chouteau corridor over the next 10-15 years. https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/million-lafayette-square-development-to-break-ground--unit-apartment/article_e1be15c8-ef2e-5351-a55d-a55c48ba551f.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Spoon-Balls said: Not necessarily a "Midtown Development," but definitely some good proximity to the SLU medical campus. Will be really interesting to see how new developments fill in the Chouteau corridor over the next 10-15 years. https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/million-lafayette-square-development-to-break-ground--unit-apartment/article_e1be15c8-ef2e-5351-a55d-a55c48ba551f.html If completed it will leave the Lafayette Square neighborhood pretty much fully developed. I know developers have had trouble getting enough interest in this spot before, but it being in an Opportunity Zone now may make financing easier. The area between here and SLU med is down to almost no vacant/city owned property as well, but definitely has plenty of underutilized spots. I hope that this along with the SLU hospital adjacent development leads to some bold/dense development along Chouteau between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ARon said: If completed it will leave the Lafayette Square neighborhood pretty much fully developed. I know developers have had trouble getting enough interest in this spot before, but it being in an Opportunity Zone now may make financing easier. The area between here and SLU med is down to almost no vacant/city owned property as well, but definitely has plenty of underutilized spots. I hope that this along with the SLU hospital adjacent development leads to some bold/dense development along Chouteau between the two. SLU will definitely have to make some big decisions in the future regarding its vast amounts of green space between the medical campus and the Gate District. Too much dead space in that neighborhood, it would be better if SLU sold most of the properties off since it is unlikely to ever be built on by the University being so far from the rest of the campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Those interested in urban affairs, here is a semi related article on St Louis: https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2019/04/car-free-safe-streets-st-louis-map-vehicle-barriers-traffic/586501/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, tarheelbilliken said: Those interested in urban affairs, here is a semi related article on St Louis: https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2019/04/car-free-safe-streets-st-louis-map-vehicle-barriers-traffic/586501/ This smacks of people wanting to change just to have change. What exactly is the benefit of opening these streets back up? Right now, kids on these streets can safely ride their bikes without their parents worrying about cars flying down the road. Drug deals don't go down in the middle of those streets anymore, because the dealers know their trapped if the police show up. Now, someone who probably fashions his or her self as "progressive" wants to remove the barriers to ...... "open up the City grid?" I think that was a quote from the article. Strange motivation that sounds a lot like change just for the sake of change. Someone wants to feel better about themselves for accomplishing something without really considering the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I am having trouble pulling up the City Lab link. But this here is the previous Stltoday article on the topic on February for reference. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/to-make-st-louis-safer-hundreds-of-streets-were-closed/article_8b3b3042-db3c-59e5-919f-515aa6a0fe7e.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: Drug deals don't go down in the middle of those streets anymore, because the dealers know their trapped if the police show up. From what I've heard, the opposite is true. Pistol likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: This smacks of people wanting to change just to have change. What exactly is the benefit of opening these streets back up? Right now, kids on these streets can safely ride their bikes without their parents worrying about cars flying down the road. Drug deals don't go down in the middle of those streets anymore, because the dealers know their trapped if the police show up. Now, someone who probably fashions his or her self as "progressive" wants to remove the barriers to ...... "open up the City grid?" I think that was a quote from the article. Strange motivation that sounds a lot like change just for the sake of change. Someone wants to feel better about themselves for accomplishing something without really considering the issue. I lived in Shaw for a few years. They're a huge pain in the a$$. I never understood their purpose. South City already has a stop sign on every single corner; the idea of "cars flying down the road" is pretty far-fetched. At least get rid of the concrete planters and balls to let traffic flow a little more smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Just now, Box and Won said: From what I've heard, the opposite is true. I think the "drug deals in the street" narrative is a bit overblown as it relates to this particular issue, but it's really stupid to block off streets in a way that makes it more difficult for emergency vehicles to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: This smacks of people wanting to change just to have change. What exactly is the benefit of opening these streets back up? Right now, kids on these streets can safely ride their bikes without their parents worrying about cars flying down the road. Drug deals don't go down in the middle of those streets anymore, because the dealers know their trapped if the police show up. Now, someone who probably fashions his or her self as "progressive" wants to remove the barriers to ...... "open up the City grid?" I think that was a quote from the article. Strange motivation that sounds a lot like change just for the sake of change. Someone wants to feel better about themselves for accomplishing something without really considering the issue. There's research indicating that crime actually worsened after those barriers were put in. Now I could argue that crime was probably going to increase in these neighborhoods no matter what and that the pots weren't the cause of that, but if it at minimum appears that they do little or nothing to reduce crime, then yes, they should probably open up the city grid and improve connectivity. Pistol likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, SShoe said: There's research indicating that crime actually worsened after those barriers were put in. Now I could argue that crime was probably going to increase in these neighborhoods no matter what and that the pots weren't the cause of that, but if it at minimum appears that they do little or nothing to reduce crime, then yes, they should probably open up the city grid and improve connectivity. I have heard the same thing - if the criminals won't go down the blocked streets then the police will be less inclined also to patrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Hugo's in midtown will close. https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/dining/restaurants/off-the-menu/hugo-s-pizzeria-in-midtown-to-close-may/article_4d7651d3-8a72-530e-b3c4-55de529f135c.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Hugo's in midtown will close. https://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/dining/restaurants/off-the-menu/hugo-s-pizzeria-in-midtown-to-close-may/article_4d7651d3-8a72-530e-b3c4-55de529f135c.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest never tried it, walked by a few times coming from wellspent. Hopefully the buyer will do something special with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The Library Annex is closing for good June 8th. RIP to the last college bar near campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 4 hours ago, johnbj14 said: The Library Annex is closing for good June 8th. RIP to the last college bar near campus. Damn. Students have nothing left in terms of places in the vicinity of SLU's campus. SAD. In all honesty though, SLU is doing itself a real disservice by destroying all of the establishments that provide the social fabric for the student body. Without bars and places to booze within walking distance--places hosting primarily students from SLU--I feel that the student body will be a lot less connected than it used to be... billikenfan05, johnbj14, TRN and 4 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Spoon-Balls said: Damn. Students have nothing left in terms of places in the vicinity of SLU's campus. SAD. In all honesty though, SLU is doing itself a real disservice by destroying all of the establishments that provide the social fabric for the student body. Without bars and places to booze within walking distance--places hosting primarily students from SLU--I feel that the student body will be a lot less connected than it used to be... May cause some to go to a game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 15 hours ago, johnbj14 said: The Library Annex is closing for good June 8th. RIP to the last college bar near campus. What the hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Box and Won said: What the hell? IIRC SLU bought the Building from the McGowan Brothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 From what I was told by a Midtown bartender recently when I lamented the lack of campus bars these days, the school was feeling a lot of pressure from parents. It seemed to him that every time an underage student would have an incident like having to get his/her stomach pumped or whatever, the administration would get a call and feel more and more pressure. So the school has just become a lot less accommodating to campus bars over the years. This doesn't really apply to the breweries and restaurants around there, just the sort of cheaper, rowdier places like Laclede's, Humphrey's, Library Annex, etc. I asked him what difference it made if the school wanted them there or not, because it's not like the school can force them to close or disallow students from going. He just kinda shrugged and said, "When you're not welcome, you start to feel it." Take that for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: IIRC SLU bought the Building from the McGowan Brothers There was a rumor that happened a few months back, but it was never confirmed iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Pistol said: I asked him what difference it made if the school wanted them there or not, because it's not like the school can force them to close or disallow students from going. He just kinda shrugged and said, "When you're not welcome, you start to feel it." Seems to work around here too. rgbilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 13 hours ago, Spoon-Balls said: Damn. Students have nothing left in terms of places in the vicinity of SLU's campus. SAD. In all honesty though, SLU is doing itself a real disservice by destroying all of the establishments that provide the social fabric for the student body. Without bars and places to booze within walking distance--places hosting primarily students from SLU--I feel that the student body will be a lot less connected than it used to be... Well, when the Foundry project is complete, there will be a whole complex with bars and other entertainment just a block from campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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