3star_recruit Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Lafayette's Matt Lawrence. He's been shooting the heck out of the ball from mid-range, three point land and the free throw line and also has shown that he can hit the boards a bit at 6'6. Averaging about 17 ppg. So the top three would be: 1. Kevin Lisch 2. Matt Lawrence 3. Arthur Sargent After a strong early start, Jenning's PF Matt Akins has really been a disappointment the last month. He's 6'8 but just isn't strong enough to finish around the basket or hold onto a rebound when guards hack at him. Coach is going to have to go outside of St. Louis to find a big man. I haven't been down to Cape Girardeau this season to see him play but 6'8 Scott Chestnutt has certainly been putting up some impressive numbers. http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=128296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I've heard rumblings that we are going after JUCO 4s for the final schollie this year. That would make sense, considering we need instant help there and because I believe Drejaj is as of now the only junior for next year. Anybody hear any names on who we're looking at in the spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 nick kern.......j/k no idea. one of the frustrating things of following coach soderberg is how close he plays his cards to his vest. rarely do we know what is up. but if that insures he gets his man, i can live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 . He mentioned the possibility of a transfer,saying this is becoming a bigger part of the game. He said more than once that he wants to recruit freshmen. My guess is he'd like a good transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Kind of makes you wonder why they held off on recruiting Shaw until seemingly the last minute. Shaw would have completed an unbelievable recruiting class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachstyles Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 I would have to disagree with you 3 star. I think the 2nd best prospect is Alex Barnett of Cardinal Ritter. He has been in the shadow of some great players such as Ken Burke and Terry Evens. But with Burke going to college and Terrys injury he's been able to step up his game. He will be a nice player if he adds weight.... with a nice jumper and long arms i wouldnt mind seeing him in the bill blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 Nice offensive player but Barnett has not shown he can guard the chair I'm sitting in on a consistent basis. Brad would throw a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 i will defer to 3 star as i have seen no missouri high school games this year except the shootout. but if there are juniors in the class with lisch and sargent we should get on it. they are my two favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachstyles Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 who does sargent play for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Interesting list by 3Star. Lisch is head and shoulders better than everyone else. After him, it's tough. I've seen Matt Lawrence several times this year. He's had a great year but he's still got a lot of things to work on. I see him being a Missouri Valley/Division II type player right now. Same thing with his teammate, point guard Landen Shipley. Sargent has played really well this year. I know he is considered one of the area's top football players in the junior class, so he might have an interesting decision to make this summer. His size (6-4) is much better for football than it is for hoops. I saw Barnett play once, against Lafayette early in the season. In the first half I was wondering why he has been hyped up so much because I just didn't see it; but then in the second half he started knocking down long jumpers -- almost 3-point range -- and looked a lot better. Outside of Lisch, I don't see any solid Division I recruits in the junior class right now. Maybe it's because the senior class is so loaded this year, but the junior class is weak. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Earl, If you're out there, sign on and respond to this thread. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 nate, i see your point about arthur and football. however, he is tremendously underused as a wide receiver on the west football team and probably wont be seen much due to that. some big time program would really be taking a flyer based on the athleticism they see in basketball rather than football as west hands the ball off about 99% of the time. as to basketball, look at it this way. he plays on a west team with 3 outstanding seniors in mcpeak, price and jones. yet still finds opps to standout. i think he has a chance to just be a fantastic wing guard. not only does he shoot well, he jumps through the roof and he plays pretty darn good defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 Lisch and an inside player are the top priorities for the 2004 class. Lawrence or Sargent or whoever the third scholarship player is really an afterthought since those kids won't be seeing the floor the first 2 years. We'll be very deep at their positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 Roy, People know about him as a football player, as well. He could go either way, so we'll have to wait to see what happens. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachstyles Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 the same way you feel about Alex Barnett i feel about Tyus and Leonard. I do not see why everyone hypes them up so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 i have not seen leonard, but i like tyus a lot. i think he is going to really be a good one. remember when you watch a high school sophomore, most sophomores arent even dressing jv let alone varsity, starting and contributing big. add to that alex's obvious athletic talent and size, you have a lot of potential. but i was saying the same about xaiver price 3 years ago and he hasnt improved much since. so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I know it's early but I see some Chris Carawell in Jared Leonard. With 20 lbs and an improved shot over the next two years, we could be looking at a reasonable facsimile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Coachstyles, Agree with you on the Barnett/Tyus comparisons. Tyus has a college basketball body already and can jump out of the gym, but he hasn't shown very much this year. I think you have to give him the benefit of the doubt now because he's only a sophomore. I've seen Jarod Leonard play a couple times this year and came away impressed more times than not. He's a 6-foot-4 sophomore, which means he's already big enough to play the wing in college, and he's a decent shooter. I've only seen Cardinal Ritter once this year, but it seems like Barnett and Leonard have very similar games. The only difference is Barnett should be establishing himself as a prospect now -- as a junior -- while Leonard still has a year before he'll be counted on to do much. I was reminded of this yesterday when Blake Ahearn was on one of Frank Cusumano's morning shows. Blake talked about how he couldn't even get on the court before his junior year -- kind of like Arthur Sargent at Belleville West -- and hasn't really had much of a chance to show what he can do. If you think about it, the kid had two years of high school varsity basketball and now he is playing very well as a freshman at Southwest Missouri State. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 "I've only seen Cardinal Ritter once this year, but it seems like Barnett and Leonard have very similar games." I don't really see this comparison at all. They're both about the same size but they go about their business differently. Barnett is a shooter who doesn't play much defense and Leonard is a slasher who is developing into a defensive stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 3star, I haven't seen Leonard "slash" much. In the games I have seen, he's mostly settled for perimeter jump shots. He's athletic, so he could develop into a slasher. I'll see DeSmet play at Vianney tonight, so we'll see how that goes. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 desmet vs vianny? bad choice nate. you need to bribe kenny roberts to switch stations and head over to belleville east. west vs centralia tonite and althoff vs o'fallon and east vs carbondale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Latsch Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I don't get over to that side of the river much. That is Ken Roberts territory. I covered one boys basketball game in Illinois last year (Belleville West @ O'Fallon) and went to watch one other game (Althoff @ O'Fallon). Every other Metro East team I saw in St. Louis somewhere. - Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I beg to differ. The kid shoots about 20% from three point range. If he was merely settling for jump shots, he would almost never score. Now I'll admit Jared settled for a lot of jumpshots in the last two games of the Meramec tournament but he wasn't hitting them either. In the games where Jared scores in double digits, he slashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachstyles Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 i do not think leonard and barnett play alike. Nate when ive seen him play. he usually takes it to the hole strong and gets fouled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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