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Be what it may JMM, and I think you make some very good points in your post, but I believe sports are not a priority for the University as a whole.

I just do not understand what part of the roller coaster concept people do not understand. You get some kind of news like this Rosenbloom statement that will be released in the near future. Immediately everybody gets all enthusiastic and thinks deliverance is coming. Rosenbloom acquires the standing of a messiah coming in to preach the way to get to paradise. Hossanah and all that. Then comes the let down, the much expected statement either does not come or says nothing except for vague platitudes. The same happened when the missing kids went to NY with the team, the same thing happened when someone posted a picture of a player with a SLU uniform on, and so on and so forth. Come on guys, this process is playing like a bad soap opera. Most likely many of you will go to the heights of hope and the depths of despair many times over and over again until this thing clears up in its own time. It should be entirely obvious to anyone and everyone that they are not in any great hurry to solve this mess. So they will do it when they do it. Stop dreaming of going to the dance this year, it is not going to happen. Bili Ken, I am sure you are not alone pining for a return of Biondi, such is life.

I disagree, based upon the way Pestello handled the occupation of SLU, which resulted in no damage, no injuries, with people that acted in a civilized way and developed a civilized dialogue. I think he is a much better president for SLU in this day and age than Biondi could ever have been. Biondi believed in being strong and stubborn and not give an inch to anyone. If he had been president of SLU at the time of the occupation, the campus might well have sustained significant damage, and become the backdrop for cops and protesters battling it out. If any such confrontations had happened, pictures of battles between cops and protesters would have been everywhere in the media, and the student enrollment would most likely have tanked. I think the key to Situation 2 is to be able to solve it without major racial confrontations, without protests, and without parents yanking their kids out of the University or keeping them from coming here. To do this ample time will be required to cover all the issues and act in a fair way to all parties involved. This is not an easy job to do, and it is a job that cannot be done by railroading people or taking quick action.

Did Rosenblum make a statement or released a statement yet? If he did where can this be found, link please.

Fully agree. For those of you that have posted the Athletic Department is not one of the University's priorities, you are probably correct.

JohnnyJumpUP that was an excellent copy and paste from a google search if I may say so. Good work. And yes an ankle sprain is a lot better than any kind of knee problem and better than an ankle or foot fracture.

Again, what else is news? On the other hand I will tell you what will not be news and that is whatever the attorney says in public. The attorney will be representing his client (s) best interests and he will speak of these as absolute facts, which may not be totally correct, but only his version of the facts.

If you feel this way you might as well make the reservations for St. Elmo right now, no need to miss the opportunity to celebrate with a great meal.

Thank you quality is job 1, read this in another thread and it made me feel a whole lot better.

When someone mentioned in a post he has overextended the knee I cringed, thinking ligament tears. Thank the Lord for deliverance, it is an ankle sprain, not the knee, and not a fracture. He would not be on day to day status if it was a fracture.

We will see, I must say that my normal optimism about the outcome has been markedly decreased by the news that Bless was playing with an injured thumb and French injured a knee in the last game. I hope they are recovered, we will see if they can play.

AnkielBrealers, my friend, ineptitude and lack of care are qualities that are rampant and widespread in our society, not to say the whole world. Why should SLU, the University, be any different than the rest of them?

I am sure that the University would not like anything better than for this mess to be over. It requires absolute secrecy, it probably costs them a ton of money, and all they get is bad vibes from upset alumni and donors. Not a good place to be at for sure.

That is correct there were two lawyers and as per the initial information or rumors there were 4 players. At least one of the lawyers has to represent several players.

Whatever comes out of this, it certainly has been one hell of an emotional roller coaster ride so far.

I was at the game and my thinking is that we were losing but not badly up to the time when French came out and went to the back with the trainer. Does anyone know what happened to French? Is he injured? After French left the lead in favor of W Mich increased rapidly.

The guys that wave the wands and look inside the handbags are indeed just doing their jobs. They have no skin in the game all they want to do is to have a peaceful night and make some money. The security requirements are regulated from above, this is not something SLU created by itself.

Let's add a touch of reality here. 1. There was no deadline for the title IX investigation saying it had to end in 60 days, I believe the regs had changed. 2. The news flashed in by ESPN and posted by STU were no more than conjectures and guesses that the investigation had to be over 60 days from Pestello's announcement. 3. If appeals are allowed as part of the process it will most likely take a very long time to finish the process. 4. In other words, as I have posted before it is not over until it is over. We are stuck with what we have to play at least the next few games and perhaps the rest of the season. We are better than we were last year and the kids will get fit and able to play long minutes with no relief, but it will take some time. I do not think we will make it to the dance this year. To guess what the net result would have been with the missing players actively playing, is just guessing. Like WVBilliken just said 72 pages of clueless speculation. Let's get real, we have a season to play and we will play it, at least for the time being, with what we have available now.

I guess they must be constipated.

Dlarry the kids have excellent defense lawyers, by now they have probably thought about all kinds of angles to bring up in the hearings.

The best way to handle STL Hoops is to flat ignore him.

OK so the missing players will not play this week it seems.

From my point of view this is absolutely correct, there may not be any publicly announced sanctions when the time comes, but this does not mean the situation will be over and everyone involved will be free and clear of any further issues or consequences, this includes the University as well. Just take a break and look at the news for the last few weeks, sexual misbehavior is front and center in the news with more and more people resigning positions or being fired by their companies. Just look, what do you think makes the University or the involved players immune to this trend?

That is reasonable, thank you.

Cheeseman, the problem is that there is not anything that can be labelled total truth, and nothing that can be labelled total falsehood. There is always a mix of both involved. Yes is always conditional and can become No at the drop of a pin. I would be pretty sure that anything short of a real trial will not be able to extricate what is total truth or what is total falsehood about these events. For sure something happened that pissed off some of the women enough to head to the hospital and start this mess. We really do not know what happened there,.Assuming the women's statements were totally false accusations is just childish, even though they probably were not totally true either. We will not know what the outcome of this situation is, period. The University may indeed impose sanctions that will never be made public and you will never find out about. For example, the players and the women may be placed under specific conditions that must be fulfilled or on outright probation for a period of time. If there are any repeat issues involving any or all of them then whoever is involved may be suspended for periods of time or expelled on the spot. There are almost infinite variations as to how the University may actually handle this title IX investigation. Therefore the fact that the participants receive no readily visible suspensions does not in any way mean they (the girls as well) have not been placed under some kind of conditional requirements or under some kind of probation as the result of this inquiry. There will be no public statement made about these conditional requirements or probation, if this is what they actually decide to do in this case.