cgeldmacher
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The fact that there are 38 members of the BoT tells me its a joke and that the members have no real power other than to rubber stamp decisions. Normal boards have, what, like 9 members? 38 is just ridiculous and highlights the idea that Pesty probably has no real oversight.
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Just now, 3star_recruit said:
Clearly. And I wish Mack well at his next P6 job, where he's had a long track record of success.
You're probably right
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I want to provide some clarity on my thoughts on Schertz vs Mack. Schertz has been coaching a D1 program for two and a half season and has been successful in the last year and a half. He has no wins over any team of consequence during that time. This doesn't mean he wouldn't be successful at SLU. It just means he doesn't really have a track record to rely on.
Chris Mack coached Xavier for 9 seasons. During that time, they went to the NCAA tournament 8 times, to the Sweet 16 four times, and to the Elite 8 once. In his first two years at Louisville, they should have gone to the tournament twice, but one year got messed up due to Covid. He went 13-7 in the next weird 20/21 Covid season. Then got fired halfway through the next season.
Given the above, I don't think it's a close call by any means. That being said, I do understand the idea that guys want to look to someone they feel we have a reasonable chance of getting. However, if we had a chance to get both, Mack is the clear winner.
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9 hours ago, billiken_roy said:
so you want to penalize the guy who has been shunned by the afraid to play big boys? hell we cant get big schools to play and we are in a major metro area. he has to get schools to want to come to Terre Haute Indiana. plus the MVC does nothing for those wanted opponents. you just know they are preaching "we have nothing to gain playing you."
No. He actually got two big non conference games and lost them both.
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1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said:
In his third year, Schertz has Indiana State at 15-3, first place. Ford’s best ever in 8 years is two 12-6 marks. Couple one-bid leagues.
Given their lack of signature wins, I’m not sure that Indiana State gets an at large bid if they don’t win their tournament.
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57 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said:
Who would your top choice be?
Probably Moser and Mack
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6 minutes ago, Soderball said:
Cgeldmacher wants you to doubt the potential of a new coach, he's a CTF defender and trying to get you to waste another year of your life watching this bum.
Life is too short to waste time on Travis Ford.
Pay attention dumb$&#, I’ve been saying Ford needs to go. I just don’t see why everyone is in love with Schertz.
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11 minutes ago, johnbj14 said:
The way I view it is this: I’d rather be a year early on Schertz than a year late on a P5 guy dropping down.
He’s got a wildly successful track record at the D2 level, and it’s showing that it translates to D1. Has he lost to bigger opponents on their schedule? Yes. But he’s doing something at Indiana State that hasn’t been done since Larry Bird. His coaching plus the jump in resources would be a lethal combination.
We could also be a year too early on realizing he can’t beat anyone better than Drake. I’m not saying the Schertz guys are wrong. I’m just saying there’s no evidence their right, and all they are basing things on is really, really hoping he does well.
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I know everybody’s down on getting a guy who just came out of a P5 program, because that’s what our current coach is. However, I don’t think that’s necessarily a reason to steer clear of those guys. I think those guys can do just as good of a job in turning us around and also deliver players immediately. Also, if they have success, they’re more likely to stay and finish things out here rather than try another P5 program.
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I understand the draw of getting a younger guy who’s on the rise. The problem is I just don’t see who they’ve beat this year. I don’t wanna get too excited about a guy who hasn’t really accomplished anything this year, at least not yet. If Drake is your best win this year and you also lost to Drake that’s not all that exciting.
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This seems to be one of those teams that is never really out of a game with their ability to score runs.
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TJ scoring 11 points in 30 (or whatever) seconds and hitting the long buzzer beater has to be an all time Billiken moment.
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Everyone is in love with Schertz, but his evidence of success at the D-1 level consists of one and a half seasons and no tournament appearances yet. It's amazing to me how the momentum on this board flows. In the past, guys were absolutely adamant that we get a guy with a history of success in getting to the tournament. Now, because a guy's name is popular, its okay to get a guy with no track record.
Let's look at this season. Who is Indiana State's biggest win this season? I don't see one. They have lost to Michigan State (by 10), Alabama (by 22), Drake (by 11), Illinois State (by 13), and Carbondale (by 5). I have to guess their biggest win is over Drake by 8, but this is just a wash since they lost to them by 11 on the road. Is this the track record you guys are all fired up about?
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Am I missing something? Grizzlies have a 9 game losing streak. They bring in JG and give him some decent minutes, including a start, and win their next two games, including one over the Bucks. Then, the very next game, JG doesn’t see the court, and they lose. What’s wrong with their coach.
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I predict that Jimerson will have a big game, because he will finally have a situation where the defense's focus is on someone else.
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15 hours ago, thetorch said:
Grizzlies were on the cusp of being the next great team. Front Office let the Ja Morant situation go on far too long. They have known about his personal issues for quite a while. I'd say a franchise who let the most exciting young player in the league, who also knew how to win, deteriorate into an oft injured or suspended wannabe gangster malcontent that is a huge failure. We've seen this game play out many times. Morant will never be the same. Grizzlies will be lottery losers for years now and get to watch upstarts like OKC, Sacramento, & Minnesota ride their young stars into the playoffs.
So are you saying that it is the Grizzlies' front office that is responsible for Ja Morant's situation and not Ja Morant?
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3 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:
If you contribute money with strings and the strings don't work out and you stubbornly don't budge you have earned criticism.
Happens all the time, 1 group of boosters donates and wants coach A the other wants coach B. Coach A is hired and loses, those boosters are criticized. If you want some control you are on the blame line.
If he was directing his comment at certain boosters who paid their own money to make a specific coaching hire happen and then that coaching hire didn't work out, then there is maybe an argument there. He didn't say that. He said basically said "SLU and its boosters failed mightily this year" referring to some obligation he feels that donors to our program have to the players who are collecting a salary to play. I have a problem with blaming anyone who donates their hard earned money.
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3 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:
First, I respect the "don't tell people how to spend their money" take(this is only applicable to individuals and not entities). But I take issue with the "how much have you contributed to the BVF" quip. You kind of contradict yourself with hit. On a macro level, I'm just not sure what you're upset about here with the post you quoted.
What my longtime friend sulfan13 is saying is just an factual assessment of the changing college basketball landscape. It's not really that controversial. The power balance has shifted and continues to shift, that's just reality.
He said "Also these players deserve for schools to do whatever possible to give them the best shot at winning (this is where SLU and their boosters have failed mightily this year)." Let's say that someone donated $50,000 to the BVF this year. Did that person fail the players "mightily" because he or she was a booster who gave $50,000 of their hard earned money? Sorry, but that comment just doesn't make any sense. How exactly did the people who gave money to try to help the fund that pays the players fail mightily?
Also, and this is a completely different take, players are getting paid to play now. Once you cross that line, no one owes you anything other than the money that you have been promised.
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20 hours ago, slufan13 said:
I'm hopeful that firing a coach midseason is becoming more of a thing. No I don't think SLU has the balls to ever do this but schools need to do more work than ever to keep kids around and to keep the image of the program looking good. With players getting paid now, money is going to talk so if you're not performing someone needs to go. And I'm glad it's the coaches and not the players (for now). Also these players deserve for schools to do whatever possible to give them the best shot at winning (this is where SLU and their boosters have failed mightily this year).
Whoa. How much have you contributed to the BVF? Don't tell other people how to spend their money and don't criticize those that contribute more than you to make our program successful.
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On 2/12/2024 at 1:34 PM, ACE said:
A bit of an A-10 flavor on that team: Gilyard, Watanabe, JGood and Vince Williams
The Grizzlies roster is full of non-P5 players: Gilyard (Richmond), Watanabe (George Washington), Goodwin (SLU), Vince Williams (VCU), Aldama (Loyola-Maryland), Morant (Murray State), Brandon Clark (Gonzaga), Derrick Rose (Conference USA at the time), Jemison (UAB), and Konchar (Indiana-Purdue Fort Wayne). That's ten non-P5 players on the roster.
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3 hours ago, OkieBilliken said:
Oklahoma City is a huge success. They pack that arena and the atmosphere is like a college game. When I lived there, they had Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden and a pretty good bench. They really could have won a title one of those years.
I used to follow the Thunder back then, because my brother and sister-in-law lived in OKC. Amazing that they didn't win a title with that young group of stars. All three, Durant, Westbrook, and Harden would win MVPs in their careers. They also had Serge Ibaka when he was on top of his game.
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Maybe I've missed it, but in the turnover discussion, has anyone mentioned that Hughes had 7 turnovers. All seven seemed to come at the worst times in crucial possessions. He seemed to be flinging the ball in random directions, but usually to St. Joe's. I've heard some criticize Cian, but when you are the primary ball handler, four turnovers isn't terrible. Seven turnovers for a wing is terrible. That stat probably costs us the game.
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Here are the details about JG's contract back when it was reported a year ago. Unfortunately, 24-25 was a team option and 23-24 was only guaranteed at $300,000. Sounds like when he got waived so did the remainder of his contract.
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I'm sure it is. I just think that when you have that many board members, whatever school it is, and maybe its all schools, that means that the board isn't really running anything. For most decisions, a board of that size has to be just rubber stamping. I wasn't aware that schools like SLU and others had boards that big that really must not have all that much control over anything. Now I know.