moytoy12

I agree. I also agree with @bleedthebluethat we won't get this honest discussion from the White House.

Well, if it's within the context that they might die, then yes. Also, if it's within the context that they might bring the virus home to their parents, then yes. The thing about school, the economy, etc., we can bring those back. We can't bring dead ppl back to life.

This is the million dollar question and I don't know the answer. My best guess is to say not now or within the next couple of weeks and also not 18 mos from now.

Huh? This seems a tad over the top.

Quick question, didn't this get pushed back or am I mixing this up with something else?

This. It seems pretty basic that at a minimum we need massive testing. You know why we don't have that right now? POTUS.

I agree with the bolded portion. It'd be nice if we had a national leader state this. I'm calling on you Trump, Biden, Obama, Cruz, etc...any of you mofos can state this and take this reasoned position. However, opening up society (whatever that may mean), isn't the answer. It just isn't. Not at this time.

I don't think you heard, America has total authority.

I want to say to "struggle" with this issue is ok, but it's really not. We're talking lives. "Opening" up society is going to cause a lot of problems and death. "Ripping off the bandaid" means killing A LOT of people. You're ok with that? You're ok with potentially 100k-1mm ppl dying because...economy?

Look, Obama wore an off-color suit and the first lady tried to give us veggies. They're F'ING COMMIES!!!!!

Whatever, you're probably a psychologist.

Just gonna say, if the US continues to have a white supremacist at the helm...we gonna fail.

Hey, remember when the racists got pissy about Obama wearing a tan suit? Hey-Zeus Christo, I wish that was the issue we were dealing with right now.

Trump wants his name on the stimulus checks, which will delay delivery of the checks. I mean...seriously? Come on. If Obama did this (or asserted he had "total authority") the racists certain people on this board would be going batsh!t crazy.

He's not dense. He just has to the read the lines in the script he has accepted. It's disingenuous b.s.

He's been spoiling for this fight for a long time. He's rush limbaugh. He's glenn beck. It's absurdity. I feel stupid giving it oxygen and for that I apologize to the board.

A striking thing about this thread is I haven't heard certain people talk about our obesity epidemic. Or diabetes. Or any number of other health disorders that impact millions of people. But all of a sudden, they think coronavirus is the "fall guy". Honestly, it's just disingenuous bullsh!t.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying here. But, do we want those 600k-2mm deaths within weeks or months? Because if you're ok with opening everything up, then you accept the possibility of a lot of death within weeks (which I suspect would be a lot more than 2mm). A lot of deaths within weeks does more to paralyze the world (morally, economically, etc) than the current lock down. Also, based on this, Old Guy's 26k isn't going to be close to the 600k-2mm that you posit will die. Only pointing this out because you said yesterday that Old Guy would be closer to the estimate than others and I think that is untrue. All this being said, what are your thoughts on moving forward? Genuinely interested in what you think because I sincerely respect your opinion and, quite frankly, I don't have a good answer to the question.

It’s this one. The basics have been explained to these knuckleheads repeatedly. For whatever reason, they refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

You know, that's a fair way to put it.

Agreed. It's such a brainless take to say this is the same as the flu. I mean...we have 26000 deaths in 1-2 GOTDAMN MONTHS!! And the only reason it isn't drastically worse is because of the extreme social distancing.

Noticed the same.

Old guy is wrong. Old guy has no clue what he is talking about. Old guy might actually contribute to the deaths of others.

Time for Old Guy to leave this board. His input could actually cost lives of the people on this board. Also, he's an ahole.

Nope, not celebrating. In fact I hate that we could have done a better job but didn't. I hate that our administration didn't take any definitive action in February that would have saved lives. Also, you're wrong. You've been consistently wrong. You will continue to be wrong. Time for you to shut up and get the hell off this thread. If you wanted to leave the board, that'd be fine too. After the things you've gotten wrong about this pandemic and the ridiculous things you've said about other posters, I have no patience for your bullsh!t.