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I think the obvious reason we no longer play ND is they joined a confrence. They no longer need to fill a bunch of dates.I went to South Bend for the 79-80 game where in we got trashed. I had graduated in May 79. I don't think there is anything more than a feeling to this statement but I think Notre Dame treats the lesser college Catholic brethern as second class citizens, much like Mizzou disses other Mssouri schools, much like Kentucky disses louisville, or any other state public/private rivalry. And for the very same reasons .... to them, we are just another ho-hum game, but to us, they are the grail. Kill at all costs. In the great conference hokey-pokey in football, ND is talking ACC ... as in ATLANTIC COAST CONFERENCE. In my mind, they are all BIG TEN. But I believe they believe there are far more patsies to play in the ACC then the BIG ten, expecially if VaTech, Miami and Florida State bolt. Notre Dame look sout fo rNotre dame.
There is absolutley no benefit TO THEM to play us. Just like Mizzou. Seem sliek a natural, a no-brainer. But so doe sus playing Marquette, Boston College, Georgetown, DePaul, Bradley, Dayon and Xavier. At least to me.
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T boone is not all that powerfull. I have followed his career for 35 years and he has had a lot of failures. He is great at pr but is not a national mover and shaker. His natural gas plan has gone nowhere. I doubt if they are afraid of Pickens.That battle could play itself out this weekend, as the Aggies welcome Picken's Pokes to Kyle Field.
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The great Jeannie Trevor use to play in their lounge back in the day.I got out of SLU just a few years before you, and I don't remember any Mao's, nor can I find any reference to it in the P-D. Golden Dynasty had opened in 1991 and had been preceded in the space by First Federal Frank & Crust. (I could swear that space was also called Brooklyn Bridge or something like that, but I can't find any reference to that, either.)
The sleazy motel, by the way, was a TraveLodge in the mid-'60s. SLU put us up there when my old man came in for his original interview.
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That will work. It is all about the extra practice.Pre-season trip to Australia is off. They will be going to Canada around the 3rd week of August instead.
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Back in my day,the late 60's plays received book and laundry money. I believe it was 50 per month. I think that would be a good idea. Make it 200 today. Give the players a little beer and pizza money. Might clean up some of the cheating.If everything in the college basketball landscape was equal I would say paying players is a terrible idea. But things aren't equal. Big time schools already pay their players. If the NCAA implemented a system to pay the players, even if it was a lump sum at the end of their careers, the playing field would even out. This would have to be a very strict system with large punishment if a school gave any player benefits greater than the allowed amount, but it could work.
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Happy Birthday to Mrs. Willie.Happy birthday to Randy as well.
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Do you think KC could average 35 minutes per game?He can't shoot from the bench.
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More than I hate Ryan Franklin.
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I would be shocked if the athletic department did not pay his tuition.you know that he wasnt responsible for tuition and was definitely on a basketball scholarship and not some sort of student grant when he was reinstated?
i say that because i do not recall reading anywhere he had his basketball scholarship back. i do recall reading he was not reinstated to the basketball team.
which i then assumed he didnt have a basketball scholarship back yet at that point and had to re-enroll as a student at large and had to make his own tuition arrangements made via loans, grants or cash out of pocket or a combination thereof.
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If you know that he was getting help this semester I will shut up. I sked that question earlier and did not get an answer.I try to avoid these type of discussions because they have trolls like anklebreakers just lying about things and then people debate the lies. Willie got a fair shake and a full second chance after he did a lot of things that were questionable. The school has always taken the high road. To suggest that Willie was not offered and given tutoring help is absolutely ridiculous. We have great academic support folks and if the players cooperate and participate they will get a lot of help.
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He was allowed back because he was a basketball player. He was not paying his own tuition.i think where we differ is "allowed back". you think just being readmitted to saint louis university = being reinstated to the basketball team. he never was accepted back to the basketball team. the basketball team is where he would have gotten his perks.
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Someone sent me a pm with a long list. I must admitt it is a long list. But I still say if you allowed him back he should have been given a tutor.Theft, academic dishonesty, etc, etc...
If a mod wants to delete this, that's fine, I completely understand. But Ive gotten tired of all the people who defend all the bull**** Willie did in his time here when they really don't know what happened.
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So what is the story?How long are we going to protect WR? He did NOT leave the program b/c of The Situation. While the Situation did not help, KM is proof that WR is not gone b/c of The Situation alone. If we are going to allow unfounded shots at SLU (from the administration to the faculty to the coaches), then why not remove the gag orders of this Board and let us post all that WR actually did to get into the mess he created for himself. Who are we protecting? WR is no longer a student, player... I, for one, am not subject to SLU's Code of Conduct and not under the federal student privacy laws keeping SLU from responding and/or releasing what Paul Harvey would say "the rest of the story."
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Everybody talks about his body of work. What was his body of work? I would like to know what those crimes were. Students do stupit ######. If I hire a good salesman and he,s good at sales but screws up in his personal life I need to help him get through his problem. Give him help to succeed not probation. Unless someone tells me elsewise we gave him probation without help.willie, let's back up. as an employee/employer relationship which you want to turn this into, how many employer's would have not fired permanently their employee that committed all the non "incident" acts he did while an employee?
second, dont forget that willie was never reinstated to the basketball team that would have afforded him the tutors and scheduling and study support. for that, he can only blame himself. quite honestly i cannot think of a an honest program that would have turned their heads for willie's entire body of work prior to the incident. he should have been expelled at minimum after his summer incidents with no return imo.
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Did he have tutors and scheduling support this semester??Willie is lazy. Period. We heard that his freshman year on the basketball court, and later about his academic issues.
If he were 5'8", he would already be warming up burgers at McDonalds in KC.
Basketball players have tons of advantages over regular students. They have their own tutors, preference in scheduling(all athletes), their own private study areas, and if I am not mistaken traveling tutors/teachers.
And seriously, it isn't like he was taking organic chemistry or in the BME program.
The only person Willie Reed has to blame is himself.
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We hired an employee and then did not give him the support to do his job. Willie would not of flunked out of Duke.explain how slu failed?
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We failed Willie.ankiel, willie reed IS THE EXAMPLE/PROOF that saint louis university does all it can to assist their athletes in their academic journey. Willie as a scholarshipped athlete made it through 2 years of saint louis university. he had at his disposal tutors, study labs, etc that the saint louis university everyday student doesnt get. they were able to get stranded in philly for over a week and make it through a semester. honestly, i cant imagine missing a week of classes at saint louis university when i was a student there and thinking i still pass those classes. yet with the tutorial and study aid assistance, our athletes prevailed.
it was only when Willie was asked to prove he could be a slu student on his own, that he failed in less than a semester. dont blame saint louis university. blame willie reed for blowing his opportunity by getting expelled from school.
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Really good post. One of Lee Winfield'jobs was to walk Melvin to class.To be honest, my point really isn't to say that SLU should make things easier. It has been recently documented that Stanford makes it easier on its athletes, but I would assume that SLU does as well. The difference is, Stanford gets its players through. I assume that SLU does not have enough tutoring and assistance in place to help its athletes. In particular, if one player is very important to your school, then get him round the clock tutoring, make the teachers come to him. Think outside the box, and don't simply say that he should go to class. If a player does not have the academics required to survive, then find a way to get him declared learning disabled, so that you can get him extra attention. Invest time and especially money in that players education.
Prove to me that this already happens or that it cannot be allowed due to NCAA regulations.
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Y memory says this game was played at the arenam
My memory says this game was played at the arena but I admit I have killed a lot of cells over the years.Yes, I've read about Austin Carr and Notre Dame having to run down the ramp through the SLU students at the Kiel Auditorium. So the famous Notre Dame game must have been at the Old Kiel.
When I saw SLU play at Kiel Auditorium, the official student seats were on the stage (north) end.
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I do not think Thomas and Irving played together. Yes students had about half the courtside seats. Frats had sections and it was definitely the thing to do.One of the first seasons I attended games ('67-8 or '68-9), I remember seeing Joe Wiley, Jimmy Irving and perhaps Tom Thomas at the Arena. I can also remember going to a Hawks game at Kiel in about 1966, but I can't reconcile when we stopped going to the Arena and started going to Kiel. I can remember that the students had the two center courtside sections at Kiel for some period of time -- I'm guessing early '70s, because they used to do the Woodstock rain dance song, so it had to be after '69. It seems like the (a?) Notre Dame game was at Kiel.
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Read the book. Season on the Brink.metz nose around. there are as many ugly booby knight stories of his mental cruelty to his players as there are for rickma.
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Paul lusk sr. Played for the billikens. He was a crazy man.Well, at least Mo State was able to get themselves a Purdue coach.
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I heard Barkley rip the big east 3 or 4 times.When did Barkley say this? I heard him say yesterday that Marquette's advance to the Sweet 16 as the last Big East team in proved that the Big East was the best conference in America, or words to that effect.
That said, the "analysis" on CBS and its hanger-on channels is akin to that on 24-hour news stations. Those guys talk way too much and seem to change their opinions several times each day (save for the BCS pandering).
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Before this season started during one of his rambles,Rick questioned Tylers love of the game. He did not think he had that gym rat mentality. I don't think he would have any interest.In skimming through this thread I get the idea someone said RM didn't want Griffey. Is that now or back when he first signed? If you think he didn't want him back then you're nuts. I have no clue how he would feel now, but I highly doubt RM wouldn't take a good look at him.
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