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report that Evansville and Creighton leaving the Valley
Lurking Dog replied to bills16's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Where is Creighton going? Not to the new conference. Not yet, anyway. -
report that Evansville and Creighton leaving the Valley
Lurking Dog replied to bills16's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Evansville response to reporter... http://www.courierpressblogs.com/sports/ue/?p=2099 -
Annual Plea for SLU Football
Lurking Dog replied to Bay Area Billiken's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Club football is great if it satisfies demand among current students. On the other hand, nonscholarship NCAA football (e.g. Pioneer Football League) would be the better choice if you want to increase male enrollment and tuition revenue. The NCAA brand is the way to attract 100+ male students who would otherwise take their money elsewhere. A few years ago the PFL, Ivy League, and the Northeast Conference (Duquesne et al.) were nonscholarship D-I leagues. With the NEC now allowing scholarships, only the PFL and Ivy remain nonscholarship (Patriot League athletic departments actually buy out student loans for football players). How do you develop Ivy League-type tradition? It starts with getting a team. So, in the Midwest, the PFL is the only affordable show in town. Typical team budget is under a million bucks. Tuition revenue is typically 2.5 mil, making a subsidy worthwhile. A proper facility for at least 5,000 spectators would be a private funding challenge for SLU. PFL member Butler has renovated its football stadium; no apparent harm to the basketball program, either. Mercer and Stetson are starting teams that will be on the field in 2013. St. Louis can do this. http://pflfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general -
I wonder if Butler will drop its football program, so their basketball team can compete with the likes of Xavier. And while Butler football doesn't produce what is typically thought of as revenue...I wonder what their bottom line looks like. Athletic scholarships= 0. Tuition revenue from 100 players= ???
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No Sun Belt w/o 85 football scholarships... Speaking of football, did you notice that Cleveland State is having a student referendum on whether to start a football team? They would be in the same nonscholarship league as Butler, Valparaiso, Drake, and Dayton. If Cleveland St. jumps in, Detroit Mercy won't be far behind.
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OT: Mizzou to Big 10 interview w/Alden
Lurking Dog replied to TheBand's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Maybe that comment has nothing to do with the general student body. But Missouri is certainly not an academic outlier in the Big 12. Whatever you think of the US News rankings, putting Mizzou 102nd among national universities (tied with Oklahoma) seems about right. That puts them behind Texas, Texas A&M, Colorado, KU, Iowa State, and Baylor. In other words, their academics rate somewhere in the bottom half of the conference. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews....rankings/page+5 -
SLU Trying to Build on Traditions
Lurking Dog replied to TheA_Bomb's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
It looks like Drake copied the idea for a mascot statue 10 years later....Link How many nicknames at schools without football originated with a football team? Billikens Titans (Detroit) Ramblers (Loyola) etc. -
Potential A-10 shuffle about to happen?
Lurking Dog replied to Billiken Law's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
I propose the Martin & Lewis conference, named after the late Ohio native Dean Martin and Missouri River explorer Meriweather Lewis. Both basketball fans. Great comedy team, too. Xavier Dayton St. Louis Butler Drake Bradley Creighton Evansville -
OT: Another Club Football Team
Lurking Dog replied to Lurking Dog's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
$5 million would be a good start on a stadium construction fund. I could see X building something like Barker-Lane Stadium at Campbell. http://www.campbell.edu/advancement/constr...ll-stadium.html The AD at Loyola once told me that operating costs for a nonscholarship program were reasonable, but that facility construction and Title IX required significant investment. -
OT: Another Club Football Team
Lurking Dog replied to Lurking Dog's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Football (athletic) scholarships? Or by "scholarship program" do you mean they want to be in Dayton's nonscholarship league? A full compliment of scholarships for Xavier football would run over $2 Million per year, just for the tuition segment. The last reported football expenditures for Holy Cross (another Jesuit school for comparison) was $4.2 million. These alums are solid indeed if they can endow a program with that kind of appetite (assuming they aren't planning to raise $4M every year ). With the A10 no longer sponsoring football, I'm not sure what conference a scholarship Xavier program would join. Dayton's stadium rental costs may be the only reason they're over 1M/year in expenses. I imagine their tuition revenue makes football's subsidy worthwhile. All other teams in Dayton's league play in their own facilities. They spend considerably less, and I would expect Xavier's costs to be reasonable if they joined. Hopefully, the fundraising is going toward a small stadium (I wonder how they use the land where Corcoran Stadium sat). -
OT: Alex Bazzell signed with UMKC
Lurking Dog replied to STL Hoops Insider's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
The Royal has a contract with the city through 2045, but I'm sure all bets are off if Kemper is sold. Sitting empty 200 days a year, Kemper is losing the city too much money. They're paying debt service on $16M for the last round of improvements. -
OT: Alex Bazzell signed with UMKC
Lurking Dog replied to STL Hoops Insider's topic in Billikens.com Main Board
Me too. I've seen everything from dog shows to roller derby to Kings basketball at Municipal. The place has a great history, including nine NCAA championship games. And its Art Deco style is unusual for a sports arena. UMKC is making plans to build a 5,000 seat arena near campus (on Troost). Student turnout for games downtown is next-to-nothing. When UMKC moves out, Municipal will basically be an annex to the convention center. The NAIA and MIAA tournaments may be the only regular events. Even underutilized, Municipal (and the adjoining Music Hall) is here to stay. I don't know if the same can be said for Kemper Arena--the city's white elephant--still not paid off, even as taxpayers ponied up for the Sprint Center. The only hope is unloading Kemper on the American Royal. -
This one is starting up at Wright State. http://tinyurl.com/db3y45
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Looks like there are a few Catholics in the upper Midwest. But maybe they're all moving to Jersey.