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If you look at this year's squad vs last year the biggest difference is experience. Losing a starting 5 that had been to 3 NCAA's is difficult. That said, I'm beginning to think this team may be more well rounded, more athletic, and much deeper.

PG- McB vs MM- a downgrade here. MM was a key guy and a good defender. Not sure we've upgraded here. Depth wise is a question mark given our backups are all FR, but last year we didn't really have a backup save for McB.

2- AY vs JJ- Hard to say at this point AYs a better pick. But someone said he was the best player on the team last year. He just couldn't suit up. Can we say a draw? Depth wise, you've got MC, Robey, Reynolds. Last year we had MC and McB. Overall depth appears to be a plus this year.

3- JB vs MC, TL, MY- Definitely appears to be an upgrade no matter how you look at it.

4- DE vs GG, TL, RA- Ok, DE's competitiveness and skills are gonna be hard to replace. But depth wise we appear to be miles ahead. DE could have used some relief in mpg and it was not his natural position. Now it appears we have natural 4s that are athletic. Competition here should bring out the best in these guys. Gotta like the depth, even though it's unproven.

5- RL vs JM, BJ, AG, and TL- RL did a lot of things that went unnoticed. Still, JM may be a better defender. Here again we have more depth, but will any of them bring what RL did?

Biggest concern is how it all comes together and how quick. Last year's team was together for 4 years. They were a tough team that knew each other well. That's what's missing this year. But from a depth point of view, this team, if a couple of the FR step up, appears to have it all over last year's squad.

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If you look at this year's squad vs last year the biggest difference is experience. Losing a starting 5 that had been to 3 NCAA's is difficult. That said, I'm beginning to think this team may be more well rounded, more athletic, and much deeper.

PG- McB vs MM- a downgrade here. MM was a key guy and a good defender. Not sure we've upgraded here. Depth wise is a question mark given our backups are all FR, but last year we didn't really have a backup save for McB.

2- AY vs JJ- Hard to say at this point AYs a better pick. But someone said he was the best player on the team last year. He just couldn't suit up. Can we say a draw? Depth wise, you've got MC, Robey, Reynolds. Last year we had MC and McB. Overall depth appears to be a plus this year.

3- JB vs MC, TL, MY- Definitely appears to be an upgrade no matter how you look at it.

4- DE vs GG, TL, RA- Ok, DE's competitiveness and skills are gonna be hard to replace. But depth wise we appear to be miles ahead. DE could have used some relief in mpg and it was not his natural position. Now it appears we have natural 4s that are athletic. Competition here should bring out the best in these guys. Gotta like the depth, even though it's unproven.

5- RL vs JM, BJ, AG, and TL- RL did a lot of things that went unnoticed. Still, JM may be a better defender. Here again we have more depth, but will any of them bring what RL did?

Biggest concern is how it all comes together and how quick. Last year's team was together for 4 years. They were a tough team that knew each other well. That's what's missing this year. But from a depth point of view, this team, if a couple of the FR step up, appears to have it all over last year's squad.

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I think you're severely underestimating Loe. And saying anyone is a draw with Jordair is more than presumptuous.

Lol. NH, let them build their delusional beliefs up.

Let me be very clear here: JJ was the best player on our team last year. And that includes practice. We should be good this year, but I'm not about to act like Ash is a better player than Jordair Jett.

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Lol. NH, let them build their delusional beliefs up.

Let me be very clear here: JJ was the best player on our team last year. And that includes practice. We should be good this year, but I'm not about to act like Ash is a better player than Jordair Jett.

Never said he was. I'm hoping he can replace his ppg.

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McBroom is not a point guard. He showed no playmaking ability. He is a shooting guard who looks for his own shot. If it's not there he passes it off. Hopefully one of the freshmen will develop into a decent point guard by Christmas.

GG and JM are what they are. For this team to be decent it all depends on the development of the sophomores and freshmen.

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McBroom is not a point guard. He showed no playmaking ability. He is a shooting guard who looks for his own shot. If it's not there he passes it off. Hopefully one of the freshmen will develop into a decent point guard by Christmas.

GG and JM are what they are. For this team to be decent it all depends on the development of the sophomores and freshmen.

Agree to disagree. I think Ash has a ton of playmaking ability. I do believe he is selfish too. Overall though, I think AM is getting entirely too much sh*t for being a charismatic kid (i.e. his social media stuff). AM is going to make a lot of fans quiet this year, in a good way.

Saying that anyone on the current team is close to equal to last year's JJ is a GIANT leap of faith. JJ was the A-10 player of the year. He was a GOTDAMN beast that ate kids and pooped golden nuggets.

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Agree to disagree. I think Ash has a ton of playmaking ability. I do believe he is selfish too. Overall though, I think AM is getting entirely too much sh*t for being a charismatic kid (i.e. his social media stuff). AM is going to make a lot of fans quiet this year, in a good way.

Saying that anyone on the current team is close to equal to last year's JJ is a GIANT leap of faith. JJ was the A-10 player of the year. He was a GOTDAMN beast that ate kids and pooped golden nuggets.

I have never seen Ash play so I have no idea what he can do. I hope he is as good as everyone thinks.

I agree we can't replace JJ, but what is going to be just as difficult to replace will be our team defense.

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A little "captain obvious" on the experience opening, eh larry72? I'd like to see every kid on this team overachieve. They are going to have to to even approach some of the wild-ass expectations some of this board are waiting on.

Let 'em play. Let 'em' grow. Get ready to enjoy the roller coaster. Check your expectations at the door.

Can't wait.

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Oh, come on.

There is no way of making a credible, valid comparison, we have very little relevant information on the players on this coming season's team. SWAG.

1) will the returning players, who contributed very few minutes, improve? Don't know yet.

2) the new players that we have never seen play at all at the college level... obviously there is no way of presenting a plausible comparison to last year's starters.

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About the only comparison that can be made between this untested team and the 3peat NCAA teams is that on the whole, this year's team has higher overall recruiting ratings. But the team is untested. Just wish we had last year's starting 5 for one more year while our frosh get their feet wet.

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About the only comparison that can be made between this untested team and the 3peat NCAA teams is that on the whole, this year's team has higher overall recruiting ratings. But the team is untested. Just wish we had last year's starting 5 for one more year while our frosh get their feet wet.

Another valid comparison: this year's team is taller

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I think you're severely underestimating Loe. And saying anyone is a draw with Jordair is more than presumptuous.

I agree - Oh how quickly we forget. If AY can replace JJ I will be very happy. JJ was a scorer - not a shooter - and played great defense. A player of his caliber is not easy to replace. RL was a good player and JM has yet to show he can carry his jock strap. The depth is a good thing but depth without quality won't make up the difference. Our biggest problem is we have too many freshmen but the good thing about a freshman as they say is they become sophomores. Yes we did not have depth last year and it took a toll as the season rolled on but you need quality experience depth and the fact that we are even talking about freshmen having to carry some of the water tells you all you need to know about those returning. Now I know that we have 3 sophomores this year and it is unfair to write them off summarily but it will be asking lot for them to be the equal of MM, DE, RL. We will miss the defensive intensity we had but there is nothing to be done about it we just have to let it play out. By the way - when the competition got stiffer was when AM stopped scoring like he did in the non conference part of the schedule - that tells me a lot about him. This is not a knock just an observation - AM is short and he shoots the ball from a low position - when you start playing quicker and taller opponents that is a recipe scoring to drop. Unless he changed his shot release we may just see more of the same.

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I guess I should have made myself clearer. In no way do I think this team is going to be what last year's squad was. And really the only guy I touted was AY, and that was only because he'll be our go to guy for points. If he's a JJ great, but that's a stretch at this point. I did state RL would be hard to replace. He was very court savvy and did a lot that got unnoticed in the box score. JM is in no way an RL clone, but he did show potential on the defensive end. My main point was our bench was really skinny last year and it cost us. Plus we did start a SR that most of wished was the 7th man. We're deeper, albeit it's all untested depth. If we're successful at all this year, ie say an NIT bid, it will have to be because the SOPHs developed a lot over the summer, and AY was really deserving of that NY State POY award. We pretty much know what we got in JM, McB, and GG, anything extra they deliver would be a pleasant surprise. As for our FR, that's what they are FR, and while they may have better rankings than previous classes, none of them are what you'd describe as a game changer. Will be very pleased if they are playing solid ball by the end of the year. I'm sticking w/ my prediction of 14-16.

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it should be fun to watch this team play ecspecially ash (YA-COO-BOO) who got ny state player of the year in highschool, hopefully he knows how to pass the ball, but to who?? I wanna know where are our points coming from , Mcbroom, 20 ppg Ash 32 ppg, Glaze- 12 ppg- Crawford - 8 ppg- manning 8 ppg? idk idk idk,

but I logged in to comment on SLU72's post of us going 14-16, please go to espn.com then mens basketball rankings we top 25!!! yeeee !!! and we gonna stay there!!!!! yup yup yup!!! you heard it here first !!!

WE GONNA UPSET WICHITA STATE and we gonna get a 9 seed in the tourney and make it to the sweet 16!!! I am serious!!! we will sweep our non conference ! (that is obvious) we will lose 4 games in A-10!!

THIS YEAR WE WILL GO 26-4 THIS YEAR WHY???? BECAUSE GLAZES' DEFENSE AND ASH WILL COME OUT LIKE A MADMAN LIKE A CAGED WOLF WHO HAS BEEN NAWING ON THE BARS patiently waiting for his release, well the doors are open, out come da animal's gnashing teeth, feirce and wild , ash will be A-10 player of the year contender and lead the bills along with Glaze to another tourney appearance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but seriously is it a joke to say we will lose 16 games this season ??? 16 ?? are you kidding please don't be so pessimistic , we are playing pan american and can at least go above 500 in the A-10 at least, we will make the tourney again because of two words, CREWS JIMMIDY

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^Thank you. Gnashing Teeth, Fierce and wild. Ash gon' eat em for dinner and win the hearts of bills fans ,, also will sell tickets.

You do know the Marines are always looking for crazed warriors? Share your enthusiasm but D1 ball's a tough road that's tough to navigate.

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If you look at this year's squad vs last year the biggest difference is experience. Losing a starting 5 that had been to 3 NCAA's is difficult. That said, I'm beginning to think this team may be more well rounded, more athletic, and much deeper.

PG- McB vs MM- a downgrade here. MM was a key guy and a good defender. Not sure we've upgraded here. Depth wise is a question mark given our backups are all FR, but last year we didn't really have a backup save for McB.

2- AY vs JJ- Hard to say at this point AYs a better pick. But someone said he was the best player on the team last year. He just couldn't suit up. Can we say a draw? Depth wise, you've got MC, Robey, Reynolds. Last year we had MC and McB. Overall depth appears to be a plus this year.

3- JB vs MC, TL, MY- Definitely appears to be an upgrade no matter how you look at it.

4- DE vs GG, TL, RA- Ok, DE's competitiveness and skills are gonna be hard to replace. But depth wise we appear to be miles ahead. DE could have used some relief in mpg and it was not his natural position. Now it appears we have natural 4s that are athletic. Competition here should bring out the best in these guys. Gotta like the depth, even though it's unproven.

5- RL vs JM, BJ, AG, and TL- RL did a lot of things that went unnoticed. Still, JM may be a better defender. Here again we have more depth, but will any of them bring what RL did?

Biggest concern is how it all comes together and how quick. Last year's team was together for 4 years. They were a tough team that knew each other well. That's what's missing this year. But from a depth point of view, this team, if a couple of the FR step up, appears to have it all over last year's squad.

'72. I am confused. You are now thinking that this team "may be more well rounded, more athletic, and much deeper" and you now present a favorable comparison to last year's Tournament team saying we may be better/deeper in some (but certainly not all) areas and yet you then later restate your prediction of a 14 - 16 season? Really??

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