GDT: That team that Jim Crews "coaches" vs. GW

[BigMouthBilliken]

Agree with some of what you say but Jolly does not deserve the absolutely horseshit, brutal treatment by many posters here. He is doing his best, unfortunately he is physically over matched in many situations... needs weight and strength. And I haven't seen, close up, all of his so called demeanor and actions, but I've seen high strung athletes who get upset and it is a often a positive. Good coaches on youth teams will tell you the ONE kid on the team that throws fits for wanting to do better, to win, sometimes is the one who is most likely to be successful. Jolly is no Nate Thurmond, I know.

I do not like saying anything negative about our kids, but I must point out Yarbrough. He is very talented, was given offers by some Big 10 schools, most everyone on this board was excited with his signing. He was brought in at least in part by Chaeney, who was going to be his mentor, his personal role model, and coach. Yarbrough has bursts of greatness but we all know he makes huge mistakes, when double teamed does not pass, takes off balance shots, handles the ball too much, etcetera. You cannot tell me that Chaeney and Crews have not coached him otherwise, but he still does the same things. Even last night. Talented, but does not accept coaching IMO. Keep in mind, if he somewhere along the line "gets it", then things can improve around here dramatically.

You're talking out of your ass. The whiners of the team are the most likely to be successful? What about Jolly's incident against Indiana State? And pros are pros they can do what they want because they can back it up. Jolly is no pro

[Cowboy]

Agree with some of what you say but Jolly does not deserve the absolutely horseshit, brutal treatment by many posters here. He is doing his best, unfortunately he is physically over matched in many situations... needs weight and strength. And I haven't seen, close up, all of his so called demeanor and actions, but I've seen high strung athletes who get upset and it is a often a positive. Good coaches on youth teams will tell you the ONE kid on the team that throws fits for wanting to do better, to win, sometimes is the one who is most likely to be successful. Jolly is no Nate Thurmond, I know.

I do not like saying anything negative about our kids, but I must point out Yarbrough. He is very talented, was given offers by some Big 10 schools, most everyone on this board was excited with his signing. He was brought in at least in part by Chaeney, who was going to be his mentor, his personal role model, and coach. Yarbrough has bursts of greatness but we all know he makes huge mistakes, when double teamed does not pass, takes off balance shots, handles the ball too much, etcetera. You cannot tell me that Chaeney and Crews have not coached him otherwise, but he still does the same things. Even last night. Talented, but does not accept coaching IMO. Keep in mind, if he somewhere along the line "gets it", then things can improve around here dramatically.

-keeps getting minutes, what does this say?

-I do agree, if MY gets it we would improve a lot, but same with the other players and the coaches

[JeffinMH]

I remember several years ago when Brian C was a freshman, he would get the same brutal treatment. He would miss quite a few bunnies and sometimes seemed lost on the court. He worked hard, bulked up and by the time he was a senior he was a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully Jolly will continue to develop. I like his energy. He behaves like he wants to be out there. Seems to have more energy than Austin G most of the time. ( I want him to get in the weight room as well!)

This board has been hard on Crews lately. It is hard to believe that just not long ago I would see so much praise for him when he won coach of the year. For all those out there like me who played the game and understand the ups and downs, just ignore the undisciplined/amateur garbage on this board and stay true to course. Go Billikens!!

[jbizzle09]

Agree with some of what you say but Jolly does not deserve the absolutely horseshit, brutal treatment by many posters here. He is doing his best, unfortunately he is physically over matched in many situations... needs weight and strength. And I haven't seen, close up, all of his so called demeanor and actions, but I've seen high strung athletes who get upset and it is a often a positive. Good coaches on youth teams will tell you the ONE kid on the team that throws fits for wanting to do better, to win, sometimes is the one who is most likely to be successful. Jolly is no Nate Thurmond, I know.

I do not like saying anything negative about our kids, but I must point out Yarbrough. He is very talented, was given offers by some Big 10 schools, most everyone on this board was excited with his signing. He was brought in at least in part by Chaeney, who was going to be his mentor, his personal role model, and coach. Yarbrough has bursts of greatness but we all know he makes huge mistakes, when double teamed does not pass, takes off balance shots, handles the ball too much, etcetera. You cannot tell me that Chaeney and Crews have not coached him otherwise, but he still does the same things. Even last night. Talented, but does not accept coaching IMO. Keep in mind, if he somewhere along the line "gets it", then things can improve around here dramatically.

Umm, you haven't seen "up close" the actions and demeanor that have led others to criticize him? You didn't see the incident during the Indiana State game? Or how he constantly tries to bait or agitate other players? Or the exaggerated expressions and little tantrums he throws whenever he gets called for a foul or pulled from the game? Heck, what about the way he acted towards Crawford last night after he committed his 4th foul? Every time he's in the game, you can count on at least one instance of him acting like punk.

As for Milik, I don't see how you can let Crews and Cheaney off the hook so easily for his level and style of play. It has been a season and a half and Milik is hardly someone who rarely gets minutes. The fact that he's constantly bringing the ball up the court, dribbling into trouble, shooting from the outside and thinking he's a point guard is solely on the coaching staff. He is being told to do this, or at the very least, he's not being dissuaded from playing this way. He is filling the 'role' Crews and the staff have laid out for him.

And if he isn't accepting Crews' coaching, as you say, then why is he playing as much as he is? Even more so, what does that say about Crews if he just lets this player do what he wants to do?

[Soderball]

Agree with some of what you say but Jolly does not deserve the absolutely horseshit, brutal treatment by many posters here. He is doing his best, unfortunately he is physically over matched in many situations... needs weight and strength. And I haven't seen, close up, all of his so called demeanor and actions, but I've seen high strung athletes who get upset and it is a often a positive. Good coaches on youth teams will tell you the ONE kid on the team that throws fits for wanting to do better, to win, sometimes is the one who is most likely to be successful. Jolly is no Nate Thurmond, I know.

I do not like saying anything negative about our kids, but I must point out Yarbrough. He is very talented, was given offers by some Big 10 schools, most everyone on this board was excited with his signing. He was brought in at least in part by Chaeney, who was going to be his mentor, his personal role model, and coach. Yarbrough has bursts of greatness but we all know he makes huge mistakes, when double teamed does not pass, takes off balance shots, handles the ball too much, etcetera. You cannot tell me that Chaeney and Crews have not coached him otherwise, but he still does the same things. Even last night. Talented, but does not accept coaching IMO. Keep in mind, if he somewhere along the line "gets it", then things can improve around here dramatically.

If you haven't actually gone to games, you have no right to defend Jolly. Probably the first Billiken that I dislike on a personal basis. Your defense of him explains a lot. You need to watch him during the commercial breaks.

[BACKHANDtheRICAN]

Fire Crews then Fire Jolly

[MB73]

If you haven't actually gone to games, you have no right to defend Jolly. Probably the first Billiken that I dislike on a personal basis. Your defense of him explains a lot. You need to watch him during the commercial breaks.

That is fair...

Some athletes are high strung and cannot stand to lose. A lot of them excel in the long run.

Some are just plain whiners.

You could be right... I explained, I haven't seen nor heard the close ups on him. Mostly the posters on here that write about him have no credibility with me. Whiners.

So I will keep an eye on this... again, that is fair. We shall see.

[MB73]

-keeps getting minutes, what does this say?

-I do agree, if MY gets it we would improve a lot, but same with the other players and the coaches

Agree, but he gets minutes because we absolutely need him, his rebounds, his length, his inside presence; he is needed and plays despite his propensity for mistakes.

Reggie is the only other one who is a force inside at all.

It appears that Crews (& Chaeney) are benching Yarbrough here and there to attempt to get Yarbrough with the program; not starting, one of the most talented on the team, offers from Big 10 schools.