Billikenboy Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I guess it will only matter in the end if we get him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludevil Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I remember a conversation in 1997 at the Shoe dinner table that included a player on the 96-97 team. The player was adamant that Larry Hughes was going to be "just a freshman" and wasn't guaranteed to start. It was an absurd discussion at the time and looks even more absurd as time passed and he led us to the NCAA tourney. I'd say calling Tatum "a good addition" is a similar level of absurdity. No kidding. The kid's at the top for a reason. And he's not going to be pushed out or underutilized by a team's system; any coach worth his salt is going to redesign that system to cater to Tatum's strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It seems now all the top 5 pretty much go to one of the 7-8 elite programs. I think the reasons are as follows in their order of priority; peer status, kind of like the valedictorian wants to go to an Ivy. National exposure, the top programs get the most TV time in games and on ESPN, publications as well like SI, ESPN mag, etc. Alums playing in the NBA, their belief may be if you go to a KY or a Duke your move to the pros is easier, I don't buy this but they might. Allegiance to a certain school, he grew up,wanting to play for UNC. A better shot at NCAA championship glory. Actually, this may be the third reason. Given the above, the deck is really stacked against us, but miracles do happen. But if he's still número uno a year from now, we should expect he'll follow in the footsteps of previous number ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It seems now all the top 5 pretty much go to one of the 7-8 elite programs. It may seem like that but is it really the case? Looking at the top 10 lists by ESPN over the last 6 years 2008-13 (so 60 players total) as reported by ESPN, I count 20 different schools pulling in at least one top 10 (Kentucky has 13 of them) while school like Georgia Tech, Tenn, Pitt, Mississippi St. Alabama, Louisville and UNLV all pulled one in. If we are only talking top 5 (30 total), there are 15 different schools represented. It can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 No kidding. The kid's at the top for a reason. And he's not going to be pushed out or underutilized by a team's system; any coach worth his salt is going to redesign that system to cater to Tatum's strengths. You mean like the exact opposite of what K did with Jabari last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 It may seem like that but is it really the case? Looking at the top 10 lists by ESPN over the last 6 years 2008-13 (so 60 players total) as reported by ESPN, I count 20 different schools pulling in at least one top 10 (Kentucky has 13 of them) while school like Georgia Tech, Tenn, Pitt, Mississippi St. Alabama, Louisville and UNLV all pulled one in. If we are only talking top 5 (30 total), there are 15 different schools represented. It can be done. I'll aver to your research, K. However, I did say the top 5. It just seemed to me like, those 5 players all seemed to pick either KU, UK, Duke, UNC, UL, MSU, or SYR. Sure there are exceptions, but these schools seem to get the bulk of the top 5, especially Duke and UK. The reason I said top 5 was because, I'm assuming JT doesn't fall from that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'll aver to your research, K. However, I did say the top 5. It just seemed to me like, those 5 players all seemed to pick either KU, UK, Duke, UNC, UL, MSU, or SYR. Sure there are exceptions, but these schools seem to get the bulk of the top 5, especially Duke and UK. The reason I said top 5 was because, I'm assuming JT doesn't fall from that group. Then I will reiterate the final sentence: Over the past 6 years, 15 different schools have landed a top 5 player. Its not 7-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Was Drew Hanlen the one who said this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Ok, K, you've got me again. Did any of them choose a mid major? I know that PG who committed to SMU was ranked pretty high, but think he backed out of his commitment. I'd be over the top if we landed JT, and not ruling it out because he genuinely seems interested in doing something for the city/SLU before he leaves for the pros. Just saying most of these types leave for the bright lights. I'm hoping some other things we have going for us are his Godfather, his mom and dad, and CC. The Legend and CC must know one another from their NBA days and am maybe The Legend's whispering in his ear that CC might be the guy who could really make you NBA ready. No doubt, he'd be a huge get for SLU and the program even if it's only for one year. Still have two seasons to go before he laces 'em up for anyone, so a lot could change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Ok, K, you've got me again. Did any of them choose a mid major? I know that PG who committed to SMU was ranked pretty high, but think he backed out of his commitment. I'd be over the top if we landed JT, and not ruling it out because he genuinely seems interested in doing something for the city/SLU before he leaves for the pros. Just saying most of these types leave for the bright lights. I'm hoping some other things we have going for us are his Godfather, his mom and dad, and CC. The Legend and CC must know one another from their NBA days and am maybe The Legend's whispering in his ear that CC might be the guy who could really make you NBA ready. No doubt, he'd be a huge get for SLU and the program even if it's only for one year. Still have two seasons to go before he laces 'em up for anyone, so a lot could change. The only reason Mudiay backed out of his commitment was because he would not have been eligible. Anthony Bennett also went to UNLV. Those are the closest parallels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 IT will be interesting to see how this years team progresses. One of the appealing aspects of a team to a recruit is who you play with, and I think SLU is in a much better position than when Larry was considering his options. JT has the chance to watch his future teammates develop, while he may have that option at Duke or KU he certainly does not at Kentucky....mostly one and done....If these freshman are as good as I hope they are, JT may well have a very talented and experienced team around him. I sure as hell want to see good basketball this year, but I really want to see how the freshman develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 He is going to the NBA (barring injury) no matter where he spends his required 1 year in college (so he can mature, or get an education, or something). He doesn't need anyone to make him NBA ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Drew Hanlen said in the interview that FBJT was a winner and wanted to win at every level. I was thankful for our easy schedule when I heard that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludevil Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 You mean like the exact opposite of what K did with Jabari last year... Dude wat. Did you watch any Duke games last season? Duke had a lot of flaws, but marginalizing Jabari was not one of them. (For what it's worth, this very point is part of the recruiting pitch to Tatum.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Duke had the top rated FR class this year. Now does that assure them they can beat Lehigh or Mercer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Drew Hanlen said in the interview that FBJT was a winner and wanted to win at every level. I was thankful for our easy schedule when I heard that line. It ain't gonna be that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 No kidding. The kid's at the top for a reason. And he's not going to be pushed out or underutilized by a team's system; any coach worth his salt is going to redesign that system to cater to Tatum's strengths. yep only time that happens is in the dukekansastarheelkentucky universe. put a top ten best HS player on any other type team and he will be a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 After following this topic pretty closely over the past several months it really seems like Mizzou and Illinois need to just pack it in. I would be extremely surprised if he went to one of those schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 After following this topic pretty closely over the past several months it really seems like Mizzou and Illinois need to just pack it in. I would be extremely surprised if he went to one of those schools. I have heard and read that Illinois is doing well with his recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I have heard and read that Illinois is doing well with his recruitment. Illinois!?!? Those guys are fags!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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