bauman Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Mo State checks in at #91. I guess that makes State U. the # 3 program in the state. In the last 10 or so some big conference schools have been ranked, S Car, Wake, St John and of course our board's favorite the Tigers from ole Mizzou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Mo State checks in at #91. I guess that makes State U. the # 3 program in the state. In the last 10 or so some big conference schools have been ranked, S Car, Wake, St John and of course our board's favorite the Tigers from ole Mizzou. Did I miss something - have we appeared yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkelsey55 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hate to say it, but I think they missed the boat on Mizzery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hate to say it, but I think they missed the boat on Mizzery. Agree, they will be much better than # 104. 'Course, I hope Missouri loses every goddam game. Missouri has very good talent and coach Anderson is superior to former coach Haith (culture, discipline, train, talent development, game preparation, in-game adjustments, etcetera) except for recruiting. But I suspect there will be character issues on the team, and a player or three will blow up over the course of the year. Also, in the long run Anderson will not be a top recruiter, though he kept Haith's recruits; we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Anderson's now recruiting to the SEC. Think Beirlein of Michigan, although he's older he kept Mizzery's top recruiter, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Anderson's now recruiting to the SEC. Think Beirlein of Michigan, although he's older he kept Mizzery's top recruiter, didn't he? Tim Fuller is still there....as well as the new guy that pulled in the Top 50 reclassify recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Been out of the country for a while. Count continues and still no us ..... #96 = Murray State .... #95 = Wyoming .... #94 = Wake Forest ..... #93 = Northeastern ........#92 = South Carolina .... #91 = Missouri State..... #90 = UC/Santa Barbara ...... #89 = Portland ...... #88 = Columbia ..... #87 = Geaorgia State ..... and #86 = Houston....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Been out of the country for a while. Count continues and still no us ..... #96 = Murray State .... #95 = Wyoming .... #94 = Wake Forest ..... #93 = Northeastern ........#92 = South Carolina .... #91 = Missouri State..... #90 = UC/Santa Barbara ...... #89 = Portland ...... #88 = Columbia ..... #87 = Geaorgia State ..... and #86 = Houston....... No A10 teams so don't see how that gives us any reason for optimism or pessimism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 No A10 teams so don't see how that gives us any reason for optimism or pessimism I think it means that the conference will be pretty strong. Eight teams in the top 85 teams in the country, at least according to this source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I think it means that the conference will be pretty strong. Eight teams in the top 85 teams in the country, at least according to this source. We should be in the Valley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 These guys must know something about our team that we don't. Or else we're not on this list. Haven't read all of the team reports, but a few of them at least have some starters back. We're kind of a big zero in that department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 These guys must know something about our team that we don't. Or else we're not on this list. Haven't read all of the team reports, but a few of them at least have some starters back. We're kind of a big zero in that department. Starting is for high school. Glaze started for most of a season, just not last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 These guys must know something about our team that we don't. Or else we're not on this list. Haven't read all of the team reports, but a few of them at least have some starters back. We're kind of a big zero in that department. What they know is what we should know. We have 3 very talented SO coming back along with a really good transfer and some outstanding FR. If you don't think we are better than some of the teams already ranked from 86-100, then you don't have much confidence in our recent recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 What they know is what we should know. We have 3 very talented SO coming back along with a really good transfer and some outstanding FR. If you don't think we are better than some of the teams already ranked from 86-100, then you don't have much confidence in our recent recruiting. I hope you're right, Bauman, but FR will be FR. And we don't have anyone who's shown they can be a consistent point getter. I like what JC's done, but it's all on paper. Remember, you live in the Show Me state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliKat Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I hope you're right, Bauman, but FR will be FR. And we don't have anyone who's shown they can be a consistent point getter. I like what JC's done, but it's all on paper. Remember, you live in the Show Me state.So does state u, but that hasn't panned out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 These guys must know something about our team that we don't. Or else we're not on this list. Haven't read all of the team reports, but a few of them at least have some starters back. We're kind of a big zero in that department. Again, when you say "these guys" I just think we should all be aware that it is ONE GUY doing these rankings. And that one guy doesn't have some inside info about these teams. The top 144 previews are pretty terrible previews in my opinion and his insight into where we will be ranked doesn't mean squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm not too worried about it. This is not an entirely credible preview. At least we didn't get burned like Mizzou, worst case for us now is 85, not bad. But it isn't very meaningful. No one can possibly know how good we will be... 5 new starters... some good recruits. So a ranking like this for us is not meaningful, to boot. Other previews will be forthcoming, probably more credible, SI, ESPN, all of the major entities with full access to all data and information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I agree this list is probably slapped together w / duct tape and chicken wire. Still, it's the only interesting reading about college hoops we got. What's interesting is that the teams rated so far, at least for the one's I've read, most have lost a number of starters. But we'll be one of the 3 teams that lost the entire starting lineup. Hence, this guy must rate our returnees and incoming FR as being pretty solid, assuming we do get ranked. Just not sure if us fans are as confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 If we do not make the list then it will be a big deal regardless of how poorly it is put together. Funny how the trashing of the list started as the count down has gotten belown 90. I have no idea if or where we will fall on the list but it will be a lively thread if we do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 It keeps getting curioser and curioser ...... if that's a word ..... #85 = Creighton ..... #84 = Wisconsin-Green Bay (I know, old term) .... #83 UTEP. Of note, these last three teams have all been picked to go to post season play in the NIT. bauman ... with what tools do you evalute our returning players and say "very talented' for the three sophomores, "really good" for our lone transfer, and "some outstanding" freshmen? I'm with larry72 and hope you are right. Less than two months to basketball season opening with practices and some Midnight Madness. Can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Everyone is saying five new starters from the frosh-what about TL, RA and MC our sophs. they will be crucial to any success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Everyone is saying five new starters from the frosh-what about TL, RA and MC our sophs. they will be crucial to any success. No one is saying 5 new starters from the FROSH. You might want to read the posts a little slower for actual content. Clearly we will have 5 new starters and I suggest that no more than 1or possibly 2 will be FROSH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Where did people see that the A-10 had 11 teams in the top 144? Seems like that is being used by anyone assuming we are on the list. Personally, I thought for sure we'd be on the list because below 144 is really bad, but I thought our name would have been called by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It keeps getting curioser and curioser ...... if that's a word ..... #85 = Creighton ..... #84 = Wisconsin-Green Bay (I know, old term) .... #83 UTEP. Of note, these last three teams have all been picked to go to post season play in the NIT. bauman ... with what tools do you evalute our returning players and say "very talented' for the three sophomores, "really good" for our lone transfer, and "some outstanding" freshmen? I'm with larry72 and hope you are right. Less than two months to basketball season opening with practices and some Midnight Madness. Can't wait! Taj, obviously at this point my judgment is no better than most on this Board. However, (as Steven Smith would say) I base by evualation of the 3 SOPHs on what I saw them do, and be capable of doing, last year. I don't disagree with JC very much-I think he is doing a good job- but I do think he needed to play the 3 SOPH more last year so that they would be bringing more experience to the table this year. Can't fix that now and in fact when I expressed that thought last year, the majority of Board comments disagreed with me, but I still think my position then was correct. My assessment of AY is purely based on his high school record as an outstanding player along with a few Board comments from some of you who have seen him in practice or pick-up games. Primarily I am relying on his reputation. Regarding the 6 FR, I just like what I've seen on video regarding their skill sets, along with their reputations and honors from high school. One or more of them might turn out to be a Ruben Cotto, but I think this coaching staff had more time to scout and evaluate the incoming 6 than coach RM did when he was trying to quickly rebuild a broken roster. Clearly, I am hoping for the best, but I think there is a basis for that hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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