Bills By 40 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm warning you all: OFF-TOPIC. This will be completely irrelevant because we won't have to deal with the NIT ever again. But, I was recently in an argument and the question was: Would you rather win the NIT, or be knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament as a high seed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills10 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA. For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken class of 15 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 To answer your question, I have absolutely no clue who won the NIT last year, or even who played for the NIT Championship. On the other hand, I could probably name a large part of last year's NCAA Tournament field off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA. For sure. Not saying I disagree, but does losing the first round of the tournament by 30 really mean as much as proving you're the best team outside of the tournament? I don't think there's much of a difference between a 14-16 seed and any team in the NIT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Purely financial but you make a crap load more money playing one game in the NCAA tourney then you so winning the nit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well, looks like Missouri doesn't even get to choose this year - NIT bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA. It is shocking that people legitimately ask this question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 If you have to make the ncaa tourney, to win it all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 There is no comparison and this is from somebody who attended every NIT game in the 88-89 & 89-90 seasons. NIT is never the goal. Making the field of 68 whther you make it to the final four or lose on the first day is the measure of a program. The NIT is a consolation prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCPA Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA, no ones cares about the NIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 In the 60's when I was in HS, I attended all the NITS, it was great tourney. I recall a very good Marquette turning down the NCAA for the NIT. That was then, now with 68 invites the NIT is irrelevant. Last final I went to was when the Bills played Michigan State & St John's. The only value I see for going to NIT or CBI is if you have a young team. This year with a senior dominated team, its NCAA or nothing. If next year plays out the freshmen (the guards and the 2 bigs we recruited) start really coming together in February, the extra couple weeks of basketball against fairly decent competition can be a nice asset going into the next season. I think the CBI five years ago kind of accomplished that for both SLU and VCU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA for sure!! Money plus prestige and good PR. All but one team loses, so losing is expected, but the good PR of saying we made the Tourney three years in a row cannot be overstated!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkelsey55 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA for sure!! Money plus prestige and good PR. All but one team loses, so losing is expected, but the good PR of saying we made the Tourney three years in a row cannot be overstated!! The ultimate goal is to be a PROGRAM that makes the dance every year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I want banners. MOAR BANNERS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm warning you all: OFF-TOPIC. This will be completely irrelevant because we won't have to deal with the NIT ever again. But, I was recently in an argument and the question was: Would you rather win the NIT, or be knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament as a high seed? You trying to cheer up Mizzou fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir boxington Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Would you rather win the NIT, or be knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament as a high seed? First of all, it's a bad comparison. If you are a potential high-seed for the NCAA tourney, the NIT is not even on your radar. Now, to answer the question of which is better, a first-round NCAA loss or a five-win NIT run, it depends on what kind of team you have. if you are a young team that developed well as the season progressed, then a five-win NIT run would really benefit you in the next two years. Didn't the Billikens make the final of the CBI a couple of years ago with a lot of these same players. Now look where they are. I'm sure Crews will remind them of what they went through to win four games in two weeks in that tourney. If you are a veteran team that has a played well all year with the NCAA on their minds, then of course that is your carrot. Anything less would be demoralizing and there would no way a broken team like that could win 5 post season games in the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschkind Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 First of all, it's a bad comparison. If you are a potential high-seed for the NCAA tourney, the NIT is not even on your radar. Now, to answer the question of which is better, a first-round NCAA loss or a five-win NIT run, it depends on what kind of team you have. if you are a young team that developed well as the season progressed, then a five-win NIT run would really benefit you in the next two years. Didn't the Billikens make the final of the CBI a couple of years ago with a lot of these same players. Now look where they are. I'm sure Crews will remind them of what they went through to win four games in two weeks in that tourney. If you are a veteran team that has a played well all year with the NCAA on their minds, then of course that is your carrot. Anything less would be demoralizing and there would no way a broken team like that could win 5 post season games in the NIT. SLU played in the CBI Ellis's and Cory's freshman year. The seniors's freshman season was that of the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 First of all, it's a bad comparison. If you are a potential high-seed for the NCAA tourney, the NIT is not even on your radar. Now, to answer the question of which is better, a first-round NCAA loss or a five-win NIT run, it depends on what kind of team you have. if you are a young team that developed well as the season progressed, then a five-win NIT run would really benefit you in the next two years. Didn't the Billikens make the final of the CBI a couple of years ago with a lot of these same players. Now look where they are. I'm sure Crews will remind them of what they went through to win four games in two weeks in that tourney. If you are a veteran team that has a played well all year with the NCAA on their minds, then of course that is your carrot. Anything less would be demoralizing and there would no way a broken team like that could win 5 post season games in the NIT. The experience of playing one game in the NCAA tournament for a young team is far more valuable than playing multiple NIT games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm warning you all: OFF-TOPIC. This will be completely irrelevant because we won't have to deal with the NIT ever again. But, I was recently in an argument and the question was: Would you rather win the NIT, or be knocked out in the first round of the NCAA tournament as a high seed? -I am curious, which side of the argument were you on? -NCAA for all the reasons others have mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The experience of playing one game in the NCAA tournament for a young team is far more valuable than playing multiple NIT games. Yup. The sting of a R64 beat down would go a lot farther than getting puffed up over 5 NIT wins. Please rename thread NIT vs. Kissing Your Sister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA. Not even a debate. Lock this thread. Might as well just give a trophy to every player in the country if you'd rather have NIT. Everyone is a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschkind Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 NCAA. Not even a debate. Lock this thread. Might as well just give a trophy to every player in the country if you'd rather have NIT. Everyone is a winner. Except Kentucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I could name many of the teams eliminated in the first round of the NCAA tourney, but I cannot tell you any of the teams (besides Kentucky) that played in the NIT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'd take an NCAA first round loss over a long NIT run every time. No question about it. That's not to say the NIT has no value. As others have posted, the NIT can be beneficial for a young team that isn't quite good enough to make the NCAAs yet. It gets them more games, more practices, and the chance to play in a tournament format. Still, I'd pick the NCAA early loss every time, and the decision would be easy. I'm speculating here, but take Robert Morris for example. They made the NIT, likely due to winning their regular season conference title and losing the conference tournament. They hosted Kentucky in the first round of the NIT and beat UK. It was a great moment for them. Still, I would guess that many people affiliated with their program would've traded that for the chance to get their teeth kicked in by a 1 or 2 seed in the NCAAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir boxington Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 The experience of playing one game in the NCAA tournament for a young team is far more valuable than playing multiple NIT games. Iowa was the runner-up in 2013. They are having a great season this year. The surprise of the Big 10. Wichita St. won the NIT in 2011. Final Four in 2013. Baylor was the runner-up in the NIT in 2009. They made it to the Regional Final of the 2010 NCAA. West Virginia won in 2007. They went to the Sweet 16 in 2008 after beating Duke in the round of 32. I could go back further and find of more of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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