JMM28 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The close second-worst thing that play shows is that he takes the ball down before he starts to go up into the Jolly Shake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Manning scored a crucial bucket against NC State in the NCAA tourney. Let me know when either BJ or AG does that. For all the grief that BJ gets, AG might even be worse. -to me AG is fine, it is not his fault that he is not the banging 4 or 5 we need, he is what he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 what an assh.ole. absolutely terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 -to me AG is fine, it is not his fault that he is not the banging 4 or 5 we need, he is what he isThen I guess that gets hung on JC because we need the banging 4 or 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Then I guess that gets hung on JC because we need the banging 4 or 5 I heard he skipped his trip to the Banging 4 or 5 Tree because he was busy cutting off Reggie Agbeko's family members' fingers for Reggie shooting too much. I'm not a big Crews guy, but some of the criticism of him this year is over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 What the head coach didn't realize watching AG in high school what kind of player he was-that's his job to evaluate talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 -to me AG is fine, it is not his fault that he is not the banging 4 or 5 we need, he is what he is I wasn't excited at all about the signings of AG and BJ. No way we should have signed both in the same class. I know bigs take longer to develop, but coming off our run of success, we should have been able to land at least one big who was ready to contribute a bit right away - a Conklin, Reed or Loe level of big I don't think is asking too much. AG actually exceeded my very low expectations for him last year, but ideally he should have red-shirted. Since our other bigs were so bad, he had to play. I think he still has some hope. He obviously STILL needs to get much stronger. BJ on the other hand has turned out to be even worse than I feared. I don't see any upside to his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Manning was much better than Jolly. The dude shot the ball over the backboard from 5ft away last game. Even the announcers had a few jokes. In a strange way, that's kind of what I meant by Manning 2.0. Like a new evolution of stiffness. Maybe I should have said Manning 0.5? I saw that play live too, the best part was during live action, the play by play guy thought it was deflected, then the color guy cuts in and says something to the effect of "I don't think it did!". So funny that he was that baffled, as was I, because the trajectory required to put the ball on top of the backboard from that angle was absurd and could have only happened if the ball was deflected...or if it left the hands of Jolly. Not even sure Manning could have pulled that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 When Jolly makes plays like that it makes me think he is getting paid to throw games. No other explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Never has a kid who tries so hard been clowned so hard on this board. I feel sorry for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Never has a kid who tries so hard been clowned so hard on this board. I feel sorry for the kid. Agree. It is pathetic that several gutless posters continuously berate the kid. They have no class at all, trashing a fellow Billiken who is out there fighting for the team as best he can. And, remember, Jolly might contribute significantly some day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Agree. It is pathetic that several gutless posters continuously berate the kid. They have no class at all, trashing a fellow Billiken who is out there fighting for the team as best he can. And, remember, Jolly might contribute significantly some day... MB, with your typical liberal attitude, I'd say Jolly needs a trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 #NeverForget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Can we get the clip of him missing the breakaway dunk from last season? I don't feel bad bashing a kid playing big time college athletics, he is terrible and acts like a punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Never has a kid who tries so hard been clowned so hard on this board. I feel sorry for the kid. Do you have any proof of this, or even a bit of evidence to support it? I'm not sure which is worse, though - if he really tries hard and is still this bad, or if what we see on the floor is the result of nonchalance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Agree. It is pathetic that several gutless posters continuously berate the kid. They have no class at all, trashing a fellow Billiken who is out there fighting for the team as best he can. Lighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy two times Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 And, remember, Jolly might contribute significantly some day... How, by nailing a cheerleader in the head with one of his hook shots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Anyone show this GIF to Jayson Tatum? He might reconsider his decision to play with Harry Giles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Never has a kid who tries so hard been clowned so hard on this board. I feel sorry for the kid. 3star as someone who attends a practice or two who leads the team in running laps when you attend? The times I have gone it is Jolly hands down, he runs maybe twice as much as anyone else. And for good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 How, by nailing a cheerleader in the head with one of his hook shots? This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Talking about Manning, it should be remembered that he played reasonably well the first few games he played for SLU until he had a significant concussion and had to be taken off play for a lengthy amount of time (this is what I recall about Manning's early career with us). After this incident he was never the same. The Manning we all saw play after his concussion is what we all saw as a playing throughout the bulk of his career at SLU. I am not saying he ever developed into a good player, he was mediocre at best, I am saying he was injured and most likely never fully recovered to the point of improving to his full potential before the injury. Reggie also had a concussion which rendered him unconscious and left him laying down on the court in his freshman year with SLU. He appears to be doing OK now, but again, he is a post injury type of case and what we are seeing is probably not and may never be his full potential before the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Talking about Manning, it should be remembered that he played reasonably well the first few games he played for SLU until he had a significant concussion and had to be taken off play for a lengthy amount of time (this is what I recall about Manning's early career with us). After this incident he was never the same. The Manning we all saw play after his concussion is what we all saw as a playing throughout the bulk of his career at SLU. I am not saying he ever developed into a good player, he was mediocre at best, I am saying he was injured and most likely never fully recovered to the point of improving to his full potential before the injury. Reggie also had a concussion which rendered him unconscious and left him laying down on the court in his freshman year with SLU. He appears to be doing OK now, but again, he is a post injury type of case and what we are seeing is probably not and may never be his full potential before the injury. Not trying to minimize the impact of a concussion but most guys make a full recovery. Manning, though, had numerous other nagging injuries to his legs and back over his career limiting his ability to run, jump, etc. and I tend to believe these had a much greater impact upon his career here at SLU than his concussion injury.Same with Reggie who appears to have played his best basketball against Northern Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You may well be entirely correct Clock, the chance is that we will never know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Talking about Manning, it should be remembered that he played reasonably well the first few games he played for SLU until he had a significant concussion and had to be taken off play for a lengthy amount of time (this is what I recall about Manning's early career with us). This reminds me: Manning's freshman year there was a Manning superfan with season tickets up in the nosebleeds near me. He always spent most of the game prattling on to anyone who would listen about how great Manning was going to be and periodically screaming "PUT MANNING IN!" I never saw him again after that season. I don't know if he just canceled his tickets after Manning got the concussion, or if he got distraught and dove off the Marchetti Towers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 HE DOESNT NEED MORE MINITES YOU TROLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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