bonwich Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 "The position of the player’s skates and not that of his stick shall be the determining factor in all instances in deciding an off-side. A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line involved in the play." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSluBills Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 One of the worst hose jobs I have seen in a while. The last 12 minutes were absolutely sickening. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Pine Jim Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 We got screwed ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 The only thing I can even think of is that the skate has to be on the ice....that would be a bad rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 On TV they were saying the skate had to be touching the ice, is that not correct? Also for Hockey fans please explain how the #2 team plays the #3 team in the 1st round? Also isn't it stupid that you can review something that happened approx. 10 seconds before a goal but not a play that takes a power play away from a team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIKNS Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I HATE the blackhawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 This is exactly why baseball does not allow challenging the foul balls. There is a certain level of subjectivity that must remain in the officials' hands in order for the energy to not be completely sucked out of a game. The rule is garbage and I would be surprised if it still exists next season. How can you reverse a goal because of an infraction that occurred 15 seconds earlier after a whole sequence of events has already taken place in between the offsides and goal? Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 This is exactly why baseball does not allow challenging the foul balls. There is a certain level of subjectivity that must remain in the officials' hands in order for the energy to not be completely sucked out of a game. The rule is garbage and I would be surprised if it still exists next season. How can you reverse a goal because of an infraction that occurred 15 seconds earlier after a whole sequence of events has already taken place in between the offsides and goal? Stupid.The idea that your skate has to be on the ice to be onside is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 They just need more hits! The important stats, ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 So the refs miss a questionable decision and are able to review it and erase a goal, but the refs miss Schwartz getting tripped and can't review it, leading to a power play and the go-ahead goal for the Blackhawks? Seems ridiculous. Not to mention not reversing the goalie interference call or calling Fabbri for a horrible embellishment penalty. Combine that with the fact that Kane should be in prison and Keith should still be suspended and it all adds up to a really questionable outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 It's not the refs, it's Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 So the refs miss a questionable decision and are able to review it and erase a goal, but the refs miss Schwartz getting tripped and can't review it, leading to a power play and the go-ahead goal for the Blackhawks? Seems ridiculous. Not to mention not reversing the goalie interference call or calling Fabbri for a horrible embellishment penalty. Combine that with the fact that Kane should be in prison and Keith should still be suspended and it all adds up to a really questionable outcome. Smells more like the NHL (Toronto on the replays) didnt want the Stanley Cup champs going down 0 and 2 due to ratings and $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 On TV they were saying the skate had to be touching the ice, is that not correct? Also for Hockey fans please explain how the #2 team plays the #3 team in the 1st round? Also isn't it stupid that you can review something that happened approx. 10 seconds before a goal but not a play that takes a power play away from a team? Via some guy on twitter, the skates does not have to be in contact with ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Via some guy on twitter, the skates does not have to be in contact with ice. If this is the correct rule, I'd love to hear the explanation on why it was overturned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 #BeatChicago #BeatToronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I had more of an issue with the goalie interference. Should've been called off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 His skate is neither in contact with, or on his own side of the line. It is on the line. Good call. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 His skate is neither in contact with, or on his own side of the line. It is on the line. Good call. Next. If it's above the blue line at all it's his side of the blue line. It's a stupid rule. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 https://youtu.be/5S2z49Zn3k4?t=11m7s I believe rule 69 is the one to refer to. (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2015-2016-Interactive-rulebook.pdf) The attacking player's contact with the goalie occurred on a rebound (subsection 7), thus no interference. Furthermore, his position in the crease did not interfere with the goalies vision or ability to defend his own goal. It was a lucky goal. The attacker swung at the rebound off of the goaltenders chest area and hit the puck with his upper stick and the goaltenders left leg with the blade (the only contact initiated by the attacker), sending the puck over to the left side of the goal, where he poked it in just beyond Elliot's left skate. Good call. Game over. I know people are passionate but rules are rules, stupid or otherwise. Who wants to win on bad/incorrect/wrong calls? I love coach's challenges and replay rules by the way. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 His skate is neither in contact with, or on his own side of the line. It is on the line. Good call. Next. Nope. "A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line involved in the play." You concede that it's on the line. Unless you're somehow claiming that the side of the line towards his own goal is the leading edge, that was an improper call. And in any event, overturning requires irrefutable visual evidence. If they saw that photo above or anything close to it, the evidence was at best ambiguous and the on-ice call should have stood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 It took me about a NY minute to determine that's the worst post ever. : P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Last night's NHL Playoff Hockey game was an unmitigated farce. The Chicago bandwagon jumping apologists, both the fanbase and Chicago homer media, know Chicago lost that game, that Toronto and the refs handed Chicago that undeserved win. Reading them all is providing comedic relief. 1. There was no conclusive evidence to overrule the call on the ice of no off sides and good go ahead goal by Tarasenko. 2. By the NHL's own precedence, Keith should have been suspended for more than 6 games, just 1 in the Playoffs. 3. The non-call "good goal" on the goalie interference was highly questionable, but that power play does not even happen had the colossal gaffe not been edicted on #1 above. The NHL is the 4th major league and in danger of falling to #5 behind the MLS. None of the 7 Canadian teams are in the Playoffs. The NHL Office in Toronto and its TV partners need big market Chicago in the Playoffs for TV ratings. That game last night was close to Don Denkinger level incompetence, and was clearly game dispositive. The ridiculous 2 replay delays and results thereof made NHL Playoff Hockey look like the WWE or Roller Derby. Shame on all involved in this travesty. #BeatChicago #BeatToronto Let's Go Blues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Nope. "A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line involved in the play." You concede that it's on the line. Unless you're somehow claiming that the side of the line towards his own goal is the leading edge, that was an improper call. And in any event, overturning requires irrefutable visual evidence. If they saw that photo above or anything close to it, the evidence was at best ambiguous and the on-ice call should have stood. The overruling from somewhere, by the refs on the ice, from the NHL Office in Toronto, from an igloo in Yellowknife, whatever, NEVER should have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Law and order every time, that us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Law and order every time, that us.His back skate was above the blue line while the puck was in the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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