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Where did people see that the A-10 had 11 teams in the top 144? Seems like that is being used by anyone assuming we are on the list.

Personally, I thought for sure we'd be on the list because below 144 is really bad, but I thought our name would have been called by now.

It's in the heading. When Fordham was chosen #144, it said #11th in the A-10.

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Where did people see that the A-10 had 11 teams in the top 144? Seems like that is being used by anyone assuming we are on the list.

Personally, I thought for sure we'd be on the list because below 144 is really bad, but I thought our name would have been called by now.

If you look at the top of each teams preview write-up it gives the overall ranking (eg Fordham 144) and also gives the conf ranking (11th in the A10). I think Lasalle is ranked 103 overall but 9th in the A10.

(Sorry, I didn't see JettFlights earlier reply)

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St. Joe's is in the list as well, ahead of Fordham. Like KShoe, I would have thought we'd have come in by now. Again, don't give this list a lot of cred, but it would be nice to see what outsiders think of our chances.

RELAX, everyone. We are without a doubt one of the best 11 teams in the A10 (now one of the best 8). Do any of you really think we are worse than Fordham, Saint Joe and Lasalle? This website appears to know more than some of the chicken-littles on this Board about the quality of our returning players and coaches.

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RELAX, everyone. We are without a doubt one of the best 11 teams in the A10 (now one of the best 8). Do any of you really think we are worse than Fordham, Saint Joe and Lasalle? This website appears to know more than some of the chicken-littles on this Board about the quality of our returning players and coaches.

And that's why it's going to be an interesting read. No chicken little here, just a realist.

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bauman --- I appreciate your comeback/input. My question was not meant to be taken as any form of insult, just a general query which you answered. Thanks for that.

I do not advocate and don't believe I ever said five starting freshmen. I don't believe that for one second. Right now, I think Grandy, John and Austin all start. The other two are likely Ash and maybe Tanner. Or Crawford for Tanner. But that is expecting the freshmen to all have to learn something before they can start. But all that is is SWAG ---- sweet wild ass guesswork --- on my part.

I think the "11 teams in the top 144 come from the A10" is based on Fordham starting it and being listed as #11 in the A10. Next came St. Joe's and they were listed at #10 in the A10. Then La Salle and they are #9. So yes, I'd tend to extrapolate that that does indeed mean there are still 8 teams in this Top 144 that belong to the A10 and I can't see us not listed given that scenario ------ UNLESS Joel Welser and friends believe Fordham will be better than us this year --- and even in my most pessimistic state I don't believe that is remotely possible -- Jon Severe notwithstanding.

If I took the Chosen One up on writing a preview, it would be quite short. Too many unknowns ...... Glaze may have started before but contributed little. Manning has occupied the bench for three years. McBroom had a limited role last year, can he expand it this year?. Yacoubou had underperforming years at Nova. Who knows whatthat will mean at SLU. And the three rising sophomores did little to distinguish themselves last year. The rest are freshmen. Outside of the known unknowns, the rest of the positives in any article will likey have to come from intangibles like continuity, work ethics, coaching system and other things that are difficult to measure. I'm not sold on expecting massive positive results. in a 'growing pains' kind of year.

But --- still -- can't wait.

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Taj Mahal 79, there you go again knocking JM. He did more than ride the pine. I think he filled a role last year, inside D w/ occasional offense, and think he'll be a factor this year. But as for the rest of your review I agree, we are one big unknown.

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Taj Mahal 79, there you go again knocking JM. He did more than ride the pine. I think he filled a role last year, inside D w/ occasional offense, and think he'll be a factor this year. But as for the rest of your review I agree, we are one big unknown.

-'72, can you expand on what you mean by factor? I hope JM takes the opportunity and makes the most of it so that we are on here saying we hope player xyz had a 'Manning Summer'

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All I'll say is again ... can't wait.

John and Grandy are four-year players/lettermen. Should they not be expected to carry this team?

Grandy has gone from 0.2 to 3.1 to 3.8 ppg. Added together, that's 7.1 ppg. John tallied 0.5 to 1.7 to 2.5 for a total of 4.7 ppg. I know adding them together means nothing but the production (or lack there of) is certainly a factor in trying to figure out the upcoming season. I don't know if a "Conklin Summer" can be achieved or will be achieved for EITHER but such an improvement is needed from BOTH.

One also needs to factor in the playing landscape ...... it was one thing for John to come in for about a quarter (11.9 mpg last year) and do whatever to hold down the fort while Rob rested. Same with Grandy who gave spot minutes to Dwayne in a similar vein (12.9 mpg) after being dropped from the starting lineup. It is a horse of a different color to say the least going from "spot" relief roles to major, serious minutes AND sustained production. Can it happen? I for one can't wait to see.

I'm trying hard not to be harsh on anyone. I for one would have loved to have seen John at the five and Rob at the four in more instances than we had last year. The very fact this did not happen says something to me as well.

Rick Majerus spoiled me on John when he said in John's freshman year that he was likely our best pro prospect on the whole roster. Now I know he likely said that based on height, which we all know can't be taught, however, with a HOF coach and a genius talent evaluator making such a statement, the expectation bar on my Manning meter was set a little higher. And I will say that in the next three years, if Gillmann and Jolley post similar numbers as John has, I will be disappointed there twice over.

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Second that opinion, bauman. But like others have said, these things need to be taken with a grain of salt. You and I can probably name the Top Five, that's easy. The rest is guesswork and I am intrigued by the rationale used to rank some where they are. Stgill can't wait; we will be on this somewhere if guys like this are on here.

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SIU-C just came in at 82. Really makes you question these rankings. I can't see SIU way ahead of Mizzou. The Tigers just have way more talent than SIU-C

SIUC is going to be pretty decent this year. They started to play well down the stretch and jumped their Pomeroy ranking from the high 200's down to 158. They closed out the season 8-4 and return seven of their 8 top scorers.

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SIUC is going to be pretty decent this year. They started to play well down the stretch and jumped there Pomeroy ranking from the high 200's down to 158. They closed out the season 8-4 and return seven of their 8 top scorers.

I think this is absolute best case scenario for SIU. With all of the youth, I expect the early season to be rough and SLU to have very little trouble with the young Saluki's. By the end of the year, we should be a very tough game for anybody. Since the beginning of the Hinson tenure, I have had no expectations until year 4. That will be next year. With no scholarship seniors Hinson should have something really good going for 2015-16.

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SIUC is going to be pretty decent this year. They started to play well down the stretch and jumped there Pomeroy ranking from the high 200's down to 158. They closed out the season 8-4 and return seven of their 8 top scorers.

Good to hear that our home and home with them will be a good series again.

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I agree that to expect GG and JM to become players that can carry the team is being very optimistic. Now am I saying they have to be DE or JJ quality - no but doubling their stats from last year won't cut it either. Lets just wait and see. We will get a good chance to see what kind of coaching skill JC has this year if we are going to succeed.

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The reason I said JM should be a factor is primarily for interior D and rebounding. I don't expect much on the scoring front, but if he can avg say 7-8ppg, I'd see that as a huge leap forward and an unexpected gift. Heck, he ought to be able to pick up half those from the FT line as in the A10 he's going to be going against guys that are 3-5 inches shorter.

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RELAX, everyone. We are without a doubt one of the best 11 teams in the A10 (now one of the best 8). Do any of you really think we are worse than Fordham, Saint Joe and Lasalle? This website appears to know more than some of the chicken-littles on this Board about the quality of our returning players and coaches.

Maybe. Then again, maybe this writer (writers) is lazy (like way too many writers) and sees that SLU has made the Tourney these past 3 years and just presumes we will continue to be a top or Tourney team again. I would assume the latter.

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