For-DaLove Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 <p> Uhhh no. If anything it puts St. Louis into everyone's mind for months and years ahead. No longer will kids wonder where SLU is located or act like they never heard of us. Miles Reynolds @MilesReyRey11 Aug 14 Mannnn The Lou is hot right now. Wondering how things will be when school starts back up 45] User Actions FollowingBrett Jolly@B_jjolly @MilesReyRey11 the billikens are gonna save the day Miles Reynolds @MilesReyRey11 Aug 14 @B_jjolly: @MilesReyRey11 the billikens are gonna save the day creating peace through Details Reply Retweet Favorite More Brett Jolly @B_jjolly Aug 14 @MilesReyRey11 amen St. Louis has been getting crucified all week on every national news channel. This could hurt recruiting and is definitely terrible for our city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I think it could hurt, bacause right now the area is being cast in the same light as Bull Connor's Birmingham of the early 60s. White cop shoots unarmed teen. Add the Panthers, Sharpton, and Jackson into the mix and the image of rampant racism in St Louis only grows. What's scary is if this officer is cleared, either via an investigation or trial, you'll have a Rodney King situation, and the area will suffer a major black eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I think it could hurt, bacause right now the area is being cast in the same light as Bull Connor's Birmingham of the early 60s. White cop shoots unarmed teen. Add the Panthers, Sharpton, and Jackson into the mix and the image of rampant racism in St Louis only grows. What's scary is if this officer is cleared, either via an investigation or trial, you'll have a Rodney King situation, and the area will suffer a major black eye. It's a lot closer to a reality than an image. Forget the handful of looters in a overwhelmingly peaceful crowd, can someone name one competent move by the Ferguson PD since the shooting.. What a colossal ***-up. Going to give them all of the credit for making sure St. Louis' reputation remains in the shitterrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Funny - some are against the City becoming a part of the County due to the bad image it has - now the City probably is wondering if they want to be associated with Ferguson in the County. Seriously - this problem is everywhere in any big city in the USA - every place like this is just one stupid mistake by a policeman or gun toting self proclaimed neighborhood watch guy. This to will pass once it burns itself out like all things like this do and in a few weeks everybody will be looking at some othere place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 This stuff that is happening in Ferguson could be a detriment to SLU's recruiting. I hope it does not. No more so than the 2001 Cincinnati riots affected Xavier's recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 No more so than the 2001 Cincinnati riots affected Xavier's recruiting.You can't be sure of that until this is all over. This incident has by far garnered more attention than that of the Cincinnati riots. It has gone international. As I said before, I hope it does not hinder recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not to discount the seriousness of Ferguson, but what happens in Chicago almost every day is much more disconcerting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought this article written by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar does a good job of highlighting some of the real issues: http://time.com/3132635/ferguson-coming-race-war-class-warfare/ Do guys like Al Sharpton help the cause of those they speak for and profit from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You can't be sure of that until this is all over. This incident has by far garnered more attention than that of the Cincinnati riots. It has gone international. As I said before, I hope it does not hinder recruitment. Ok, how about UCLA after Rodney King? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 -I realize the situation in Ferguson is very important but I worry about this topic being taken on this board to a place won't be good, see off-season board's and the history of other such topics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 -I realize the situation in Ferguson is very important but I worry about this topic being taken on this board to a place won't be good, see off-season board's and the history of other such topics Or maybe posters will mostly stay on the topic of SLU's next recruiting class, which needs one more commitment. (The Ferguson crisis hits closer to home for me than probably most everyone on this forum. I have other places to discuss it than here, though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 This situation may impact the quality of our last recruit. Don't you get this fact??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 we'll be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I really don't think what is happening off to the city's north in the county is going to affect anything in terms of recruiting. Back when I was there, we lived in Laclede Town ..... which was more much slumlike and dangerous than anything there now. Although Chaifetz arena sits in what used to be the middle of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 unless we were recruiting michael brown, i think the effect on our recruiting will be minimal. if we were recruiting michael brown, we need to move on to the next recruiting target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This situation may impact the quality of our last recruit. Don't you get this fact??? It's more of a crisis than a situation, but I don't think it will have a significant impact on recruiting. Coach Crews is not recruiting guys to Ferguson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It's more of a crisis than a situation, but I don't think it will have a significant impact on recruiting. Coach Crews is not recruiting guys to Ferguson.If you were a parent who had a son being recruited by SLU, would you not be concerned by what is happening here? All many parents know is that this is happening in St. Louis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If you were a parent who had a son being recruited by SLU, would you not be concerned by what is happening here? All many parents know is that this is happening in St. Louis. I probably would like to know, so I would ask the coach who was recruiting my child if they would be safe at the school. And when he informs me that the unrest is about 10 miles away and there's no hint of unrest at or likely on campus, then I wouldn't try to steer my child somewhere else if he or she would be happy there. Unseen dangers lurk in every city and on every campus. Now, if you're really asking about deeper, more pervasive issues than the unrest, I don't know what to say about that. I'm not sure other schools' cities would be any different, and I think coping with such can actually develop a greater strength than going to a place where everything is a bed of roses. But, again, it would depend on where my child feels most comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 unless we were recruiting michael brown, i think the effect on our recruiting will be minimal. if we were recruiting michael brown, we need to move on to the next recruiting target. They can't close the deal with these local kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpencerFilibuster Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 In 2015 news, Spiedel off the board to Vermont. I'm not sure if he was offered but I know we were looking at him at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Back when we had the Great Flood of 1993, people were actually calling to see if the Cardinal games were still on and if the zoo was open. This was despite the fact that the flooding was nowhere near the zoo and that Old Busch Stadium was never in danger. The point is that folks today have short attention spans (I include myself) and they see a snipet on the news and develop opinions based upon fiction instead of reality. I can see parents thinking the following: 1) if I send my son there, will we have to be worried that the protests, rioting, looting will end up by SLU, 2) if I send my son there, will I have to worry about him participating in a protest that turns violent [college kids are known for wanting to be involved in protests], 3) if I send my son there, will I have to be worried that he will be shot by the police. Each of those concerns is not based in reality, but I can see a parent unreasonably worrying that they could happen and saying that each of the items listed is much less likely to happen in Marquette, Wisconsin, or Manhattan, Kansas, or Omaha, Nebraska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If you were a parent who had a son being recruited by SLU, would you not be concerned by what is happening here? All many parents know is that this is happening in St. Louis. I think a lot of parents, particularly of black recruits, realize that what is occurring in Ferguson could very well have happened in almost every major city in America, so I doubt there is any concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 If you fit J5's criteria please raise your hands. unless we were recruiting michael brown, i think the effect on our recruiting will be minimal. if we were recruiting michael brown, we need to move on to the next recruiting target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Last time I looked Ferguson was not a major city; a tribute to the the P-D this morning ran a background report on three police shootings of the past. They balanced the article by having innocent victims as well a known criminals. Two white teens teens were killed when stopped in Troy, MO apparently drinking both were shot in the head and killed when the driver inadvertently put the truck in neutral and let it roll toward the officer- the officer lost his job over the incident. Police are not supposed to make mistakes. They should be held to a higher standard; yet, these are not do over circumstances. When people die the parents and families should never forget. There is no way to undo these types of actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think a lot of parents, particularly of black recruits, realize that what is occurring in Ferguson could very well have happened in almost every major city in America, so I doubt there is any concern. Unfortunately, you are correct, this can/will happen in any major metropolitan area, where the demographics ensure an explosive atmosphere for these disgraceful riots, looting, destruction, Molotov cocktails and shootings, etcetera, as in Ferguson. Before the facts were out, a few loud lies repeated and repeated over and over again by race baiters and lame fearful media, and thousands of people have blindly es-ploded. But it is HERE. Saint Louis. We are bring used as the national showcase, manipulated, everything blown way out of proportion, with intent. How many organizations and so called leaders from all over have contributed to the hatred, to the mess? Friends and associates of mine from across the country are calling-emailing-texting me, asking me about this, and they see it as "Saint Louis". The awful TV video every night is surreal, unprecedented I believe, for, what 9 nights in a row? So do not think this will not hurt Saint Louis University to some extent. Recruiting basketball players, maybe ever so slightly, maybe more, we will probably never really know, but do not forget other general population students' parents, they have to wonder about the sights they have seen so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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