doowop Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Well hell if that's the criteria for "fast enough" then the whole team should transfer to low D-1.Good response. Most of the players get blocked often. For some reason they won't use a shot fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Given the status of the relationship between Majerus and Biondi why does anyone think they would have agreed on a succession plan or much less Biondi would have agreed to follow Majerus's wishes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Regardless of the details, JC was out of coaching and not looking for a gig. He admittedly let the seniors last year basically run the team. So, we have a guy that will forget more basketball then any of us will ever know, but wasn't interested in coaching D1 ball right before he was hired as an assistant. He's had basically two years of autopilot as the head coach. And now he's expected to turn the coaching switch back on. His heart wasn't in to coaching when he came, he's been able to coast and now he has to find some reservoir of coaching energy. I just don't see it happening. I don't doubt JC's coaching ability, but I doubt his interest in it at this point. And he absolutely threw the kids under the bus in that press conference. Sure, he ostensibly took responsibility for the failures, but then told us how he lit into the players because they weren't getting the message through the "nice" way. If that was the prob, then the "mean" message should have been delivered much earlier. We'll never really know what was said to the players post-game yesterday, but I suspect it was a lot of "you" statements by JC and not a lot of "I" statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUfan_42 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Regardless of the details, JC was out of coaching and not looking for a gig. He admittedly let the seniors last year basically run the team. So, we have a guy that will forget more basketball then any of us will ever know, but wasn't interested in coaching D1 ball right before he was hired as an assistant. He's had basically two years of autopilot as the head coach. And now he's expected to turn the coaching switch back on. His heart wasn't in to coaching when he came, he's been able to coast and now he has to find some reservoir of coaching energy. I just don't see it happening. I don't doubt JC's coaching ability, but I doubt his interest in it at this point. And he absolutely threw the kids under the bus in that press conference. Sure, he ostensibly took responsibility for the failures, but then told us how he lit into the players because they weren't getting the message through the "nice" way. If that was the prob, then the "mean" message should have been delivered much earlier. We'll never really know what was said to the players post-game yesterday, but I suspect it was a lot of "you" statements by JC and not a lot of "I" statements. maybe it's what the players need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samslu Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Regardless of the details, JC was out of coaching and not looking for a gig. He admittedly let the seniors last year basically run the team. So, we have a guy that will forget more basketball then any of us will ever know, but wasn't interested in coaching D1 ball right before he was hired as an assistant. He's had basically two years of autopilot as the head coach. And now he's expected to turn the coaching switch back on. His heart wasn't in to coaching when he came, he's been able to coast and now he has to find some reservoir of coaching energy. I just don't see it happening. I don't doubt JC's coaching ability, but I doubt his interest in it at this point. And he absolutely threw the kids under the bus in that press conference. Sure, he ostensibly took responsibility for the failures, but then told us how he lit into the players because they weren't getting the message through the "nice" way. If that was the prob, then the "mean" message should have been delivered much earlier. We'll never really know what was said to the players post-game yesterday, but I suspect it was a lot of "you" statements by JC and not a lot of "I" statements. In 1995 Duke was 9-2 when Coach K had to sit out the rest of the year with his back issues. Duke finished 13-18. You cannot just throw the ball out there and expect to win in division 1 basketball. They have to be coached. Lets give Crews some credit. Its not like Rick left him with a bunch of McDonalds all americans. Last years team had four good starters and a very weak bench. He did look very down at the press conference last night. That worries me but a win on Wednesday will make things look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 maybe it's what the players need. I don't disagree. But maybe it's what the coaches need too. And the timing for such a speech seems a little late. And if the players aren't giving the effort required, it doesn't set a good example to throw Manning or TL out there. They are the epitome what is probably eating Crews up about the freshmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 As I recall, RM made the call or recommendation on who should serve as interim coach during his illness. I think we were all a little shocked because Whitesell was listed as associate HC. Then when it looked like JC would be named full time, Whitesell left for St.Johns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Well hell if that's the criteria for "fast enough" then the whole team should transfer to low D-1. Well hell if you can not be fast enough to cover your man and get to the basket quickly then what is the definition of "fast enough"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Crawford seems to get to the basket and FINISH more often and easily than anyone else on the team. Reynolds definitely tries very hard to get to the basket, but he often ends up flinging up a prayer and trying to draw the foul. MY is very streaky - sometimes he gets there but the shot goes awry, other times he seems to never get close. And Ash, well, he certainly has the ability to get to the basket, but he very often misses. Crawford doesn't always get the minutes, but when he does, he seems to always be looking for a way to score. He probably does not have the raw talent that MY or AY has, but he has developed the skills and he seems to play really hard. His defense is another issue. You are both right - Crawford should be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldie Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 As I recall, RM made the call or recommendation on who should serve as interim coach during his illness. I think we were all a little shocked because Whitesell was listed as associate HC. Then when it looked like JC would be named full time, Whitesell left for St.Johns.Was not shockedAt EOY banquet RM apologized via video for not attending stating that a personal emergency prevented him from attending JC was the keynote speaker stating that he was called in at last minute. JW was the secondary speaker. It was strange at the time however told my wife that we seen the last of RM And the rest is history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 In 1995 Duke was 9-2 when Coach K had to sit out the rest of the year with his back issues. Duke finished 13-18. You cannot just throw the ball out there and expect to win in division 1 basketball. They have to be coached. Lets give Crews some credit. Its not like Rick left him with a bunch of McDonalds all americans. Last years team had four good starters and a very weak bench. He did look very down at the press conference last night. That worries me but a win on Wednesday will make things look better. What? This Crews' third year post-RM. What more could RM have left? RM left a team veteran team full of JR's and SR's for Crews first year and then a class full of 5 SRs last year. Were they McDonald's All Americans? No, but they were the best players SLU has had in 40 years or more. SLU All Century Team players, A10 Player of the Year, 5 of 8 are playing professionally and the other 2 had injuries (JJ and DE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Crawford isn't too slow for our level of play. There are guys at Davidson who are no more athletic than he is who are lighting it up. He's shown that ability in spurts here, even in a broken offense. It's true that he isn't fast enough to guard the opposing two guard and not athletic enough to guard the opposing three. As BayArea has pointed out and the Thad Mattas of the world have realized, that's what zones are for. You know, what Crews had a lot of success with at Evansville. Crews doesn't need to replace transfers with "better players". He needs to replace them with guys who can do what he wants done. You can find a 2 star 6'5 power forward with an old school understanding of screening and passing. They're not as plentiful as they were 25 years ago, but they are out there. You can find a shooting guard who is prepared to shoot off of said screen. Again, they are not as common as they once were but they exist. And there are definitely 5'11 jitterburg point guards available who can drive and kick. Those kind of point guards are not likely to be huge scorers themselves But if you want to create open shots for others, they are worth their weight in gold. Oh.... so now we recruit players who cannot play man-to-man defense at this level so Crews should change his entire coaching philosophy and schemes to suit these players? Get real !! As I recall, RM brought his offensive and defensive philosophies/schemes to SLU and then implemented the same even if not best suited for the existing players (Kevin Lisch and Tommie Liddell) but then brought in players to play his systems. Guys who weren't up to the challenges were sent packing. RM didn't have trouble finding guys who were quick enough to play tough man to man defense and his guys were terrific at setting picks, using picks and guarding the perimeter to prevent other teams from shooting the 3 against us. Here's an idea. If a guy who is a JR for us (4th year post high school and 2nd year with our team) cannot do better than 5 points in 30 minutes while playing the 2 and/or 3 position for us, then show him the door. If a 5'8" JR (4th year post high school and 3rd year with us and 2nd full game season for us) cannot get it done now in his second year in the A10, then show him the door. If a 6'4" Sophomore is too slow to guard either the other team's 2 or 3, then show him the door. If a 6"8" Sophomore cannot get minutes on this team which is not only a bad team but which plays 11 to 12 each game and needs help at all positions including the 3, 4 and 5, then show him the door. If any of the Freshmen have bad attitudes are/or are deemed not coachable, then show him/them the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samslu Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 What? This Crews' third year post-RM. What more could RM have left? RM left a team veteran team full of JR's and SR's for Crews first year and then a class full of 5 SRs last year. Were they McDonald's All Americans? No, but they were the best players SLU has had in 40 years or more. SLU All Century Team players, A10 Player of the Year, 5 of 8 are playing professionally and the other 2 had injuries (JJ and DE). I am in no way knocking Jett, Loe, Evans, or McCall. They got everything out of their abilities. But to act like Crews and staff had nothing to with the last two years is just not right. The first four off the bench last year were Manning, Glaze, McBroom, and Lancona. To win a tough A10 with that bench took some coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I am in no way knocking Jett, Loe, Evans, or McCall. They got everything out of their abilities. But to act like Crews and staff had nothing to with the last two years is just not right. The first four off the bench last year were Manning, Glaze, McBroom, and Lancona. To win a tough A10 with that bench took some coaching. So what is you point? Are you know conceding the point that RM really did leave Crews alot of talent and fully stocked team? Now, with RM's talent, Crews did win and did take us to two (2) straight NCAA Tourneys while winning the A10. Sure, Crews deserves some credit for coaching up RM's players but why are you making excuses for Crews by blaming RM for not leaving him much? And BTW, the reason Crews' bench was so bad last year was because Crews himself brought in Reggie, Tanner and Crawford who are either bad players or whom remain undeveloped by Crews after 2 years. And if Crews didn't want Glaze, Manning and/or McBroom, then why did Crews not show them the door? RM didn't want 5 of Brad's players and they all found other programs. And Ash is Jim Crews' big transfer who practiced with us all of last year (that's also why our bench was thin last year) and instead of being the veteran team leader, he is a streaky role player who has had some really terrible games for us instead of providing us and our youngsters with the veteran experience our team desperately needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Once the Louisville Cardinal PG Chris Jones kid beats the rape charge, he might be available. I think that's the type of players some on this board would embrace. 13.7 ppg, 3.6 apg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Crews deserves some credit for the last 2 years and he deserves blame for this year. Let's see what we do next year. 15-15 and no Tatum and it'll be hard to keep defending him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samslu Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 So what is you point? Are you know conceding the point that RM really did leave Crews alot of talent and fully stocked team? Now, with RM's talent, Crews did win and did take us to two (2) straight NCAA Tourneys while winning the A10. Sure, Crews deserves some credit for coaching up RM's players but why are you making excuses for Crews by blaming RM for not leaving him much? And BTW, the reason Crews' bench was so bad last year was because Crews himself brought in Reggie, Tanner and Crawford who are either bad players or whom remain undeveloped by Crews after 2 years. And if Crews didn't want Glaze, Manning and/or McBroom, then why did Crews not show them the door? RM didn't want 5 of Brad's players and they all found other programs. And Ash is Jim Crews' big transfer who practiced with us all of last year (that's also why our bench was thin last year) and instead of being the veteran team leader, he is a streaky role player who has had some really terrible games for us instead of providing us and our youngsters with the veteran experience our team desperately needs. All four of the seniors improved from their sophomore years to their senior years. Especially Loe and Jett. Coaching had something to do with that. After those four Rick did leave him nothing for last year, Ricks last two recruiting classes were bad. Crews was not named coach until after his interm year. He was not able to sign anyone in the early signing period so he was lucky toget what he did . Ash and Lancona had offers from other major schools and Reggie was a project because of his lack playing experience. Do I think Crews is the coach Rick was ? No. Not close but who is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Crews deserves some credit for the last 2 years and he deserves blame for this year. Let's see what we do next year. 15-15 and no Tatum and it'll be hard to keep defending him. No Tatum + less than 20 wins next year and his seat should be burning hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samslu Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 No Tatum + less than 20 wins next year and his seat should be burning hot. I will be honest and say after what I witnessed in person last night it is tougher to defend Crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabills Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I am in no way knocking Jett, Loe, Evans, or McCall. They got everything out of their abilities. But to act like Crews and staff had nothing to with the last two years is just not right. The first four off the bench last year were Manning, Glaze, McBroom, and Lancona. To win a tough A10 with that bench took some coaching. Yeah but those bench players didn't get major minutes. McBroom was the only bench player to get serious minutes. Crews did a a good job of keeping the team focused and keeping them on cruise control. As the season progressed and his hand showed more and more, the team played worse struggling to win towards the end of the season, loosing out in the first game they played in the A-10 tournament and only making it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament for the 2nd year in a row. Not to mention that even through the 19-game winning streak SLU didn't really look dominant. Most games went down to the wire and in many games the team looked like they were about to blow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samslu Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Yeah but those bench players didn't get major minutes. McBroom was the only bench player to get serious minutes. Crews did a a good job of keeping the team focused and keeping them on cruise control. As the season progressed and his hand showed more and more, the team played worse struggling to win towards the end of the season, loosing out in the first game they played in the A-10 tournament and only making it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament for the 2nd year in a row. Not to mention that even through the 19-game winning streak SLU didn't really look dominant. Most games went down to the wire and in many games the team looked like they were about to blow it. So they won 27 games, an A10 title, and "only one game in the tournament" without a bench. I think most schools would take a coach that could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken class of 15 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If you could take anyone from the 2011-2012 team and put them with this year's team, would you take one of the players or Majerus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If you could take anyone from the 2011-2012 team and put them with this year's team, would you take one of the players or Majerus? Where have you gone, Kwamain Mitchell? A fanbase turns its lonely eyes to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 If you could take anyone from the 2011-2012 team and put them with this year's team, would you take one of the players or Majerus? no question, majerus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Where have you gone, Kwamain Mitchell? A fanbase turns its lonely eyes to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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