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Does anyone think any HS/AAU coaches changed their mind about SLU since they learned, if they have heard, about Jared's situation enough to put some doubt into the minds of recruits about SLU? Especially coaches in Indiana.

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I am really surprised by some of the responses on this board. Unless you were there for all the conversations between Drew and the coaches over the past year, you really do NOT have a clear idea of what happened. Those of you who have managed people, tell me you have never had to have a conversation or even multiple conversations that were critical of someone's performance (maybe even leading to termination) only to later hear that employee talk about how unfair it was and if it eventually did lead to termination, how they never saw it coming. Cognitive dissonance is a common behavior.

I have no idea what happened, but drawing conclusions, as some here are, just from hearing a few quotes only from Drew, is jumping to conclusions.

Regardless of HOW this happened, it may very well be the best course of action for Drew unless he wanted to end up being nothing but a practice player for the next four years.

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Just retweeted by Drew:

why do ###### things always happen to the best people?

Retweeted by Uncle Deuce

I would bet my life's savings that this was not Drews idea. Crews better have two studs waiting to sign tomorrow. As someone pointed out earlier, I do believe that there are two kids who want to come play for SLU with only one spot open, thus Drew had to go....

but what do I know.

Well his ego has seemed to survived this.

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Dlarry, what generally passes as common sense is really just fast thinking, an instantaneous internal or subconscious connection that makes sense to whoever is coming up with it. When your subconscious connects there is nothing common about it. Everybody's subconscious are different. What you refer to as common sense 101 is really a very complex series of connected issues dealing with perception, stored feelings and distortions and conscious responses, we all have them. They are unique to every single one of us. If you are interested in this type of training, I will recommend you start by going back to school to beef up your educational credits, take the MCATs, apply to med school and after any number of years wind up in psychiatry with specialization in psychotherapy. This could take you maybe 8 or 10 years to do. You can also get an advanced degree in psychology but in this case you will be more into psychometrics and less into subconscious issues. I said it could be learned with enough training, not that the training was easy or readily attainable. And talking about Remy, this man is, like all others, a complex mixture of capabilities, feelings, and needs. It is my impression that he is a religious person and that religion has to be part of the mix of conditions that he is looking for.

I took the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator assessment once. I'm an INFJ.

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The fact drew tweeted he didn't want to go and the fact this all takes place so late is enough to say if we do the right thing it does not happen. At least rickma could say it wasn't his player. This staff was here when drew signed. They found him recruited him begged him to be a billiken. Talked him into giving up a redshirt season. Now he will lose another season.

This is embarrassing and wrong and I hope is not going to be the norm for Jim Crews. I hoped for better and have to tell you after originally (last fall) being all against crews as our coach, after an amazing season and what seemed like a class performance off the court I came around to supporting crews.

But this sure doesn't stack up. I sincerely hope this stops now and there is no more of this b.s. IF this turns into an Apr issue, crews should be fired. However I suspect the reason crews waited this long was to make sure it wasn't going to be an Apr issue. Wouldn't that be ironic. The reason drew gets cut is because he HAD good grades. He would have gotten to stay at the school he wanted to be at if he would have tanked his classes.

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Again, jumping to worst case scenario conclusion without knowing all details. We don't know why this happened yet

The fact drew tweeted he didn't want to go and the fact this all takes place so late is enough to say if we do the right thing it does not happen. At least rickma could say it wasn't his player. This staff was here when drew signed. They found him recruited him begged him to be a billiken. Talked him into giving up a redshirt season. Now he will lose another season.

This is embarrassing and wrong and I hope is not going to be the norm for Jim Crews. I hoped for better and have to tell you after originally (last fall) being all against crews as our coach, after an amazing season and what seemed like a class performance off the court I came around to supporting crews.

But this sure doesn't stack up. I sincerely hope this stops now and there is no more of this b.s. IF this turns into an Apr issue, crews should be fired. However I suspect the reason crews waited this long was to make sure it wasn't going to be an Apr issue. Wouldn't that be ironic. The reason drew gets cut is because he HAD good grades. He would have gotten to stay at the school he wanted to be at if he would have tanked his classes.

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The fact drew tweeted he didn't want to go and the fact this all takes place so late is enough to say if we do the right thing it does not happen. At least rickma could say it wasn't his player. This staff was here when drew signed. They found him recruited him begged him to be a billiken. Talked him into giving up a redshirt season. Now he will lose another season.

This is embarrassing and wrong and I hope is not going to be the norm for Jim Crews. I hoped for better and have to tell you after originally (last fall) being all against crews as our coach, after an amazing season and what seemed like a class performance off the court I came around to supporting crews.

But this sure doesn't stack up. I sincerely hope this stops now and there is no more of this b.s. IF this turns into an Apr issue, crews should be fired. However I suspect the reason crews waited this long was to make sure it wasn't going to be an Apr issue. Wouldn't that be ironic. The reason drew gets cut is because he HAD good grades. He would have gotten to stay at the school he wanted to be at if he would have tanked his classes.

For two years now I've been telling you about he unintended consequences of the APR. Now you finally see an example of what I mean.

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Shoe dont sidestep the issue. Crews was a greedy a$s that screwed this kid. The rule shouldn't have governed crews being a good person or not.

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Maybe they got into a fist fight!!!

my insider sources (not message board morons) say this is exactly what happened and that it's still happening, every thursday night in the basement at demat. this thing is so much bigger than just letting one player go. well, there's a 50/50 chance that it is.

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Again, jumping to worst case scenario conclusion without knowing all details. We don't know why this happened yet

Please give me the scenario where crews is the good guy in this. By Drew's tweets it is very obvious drew did not want this and did nothing to deserve this

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Again, jumping to worst case scenario conclusion without knowing all details. We don't know why this happened yet

Please give me the scenario where crews is the good guy in this. By Drew's tweets it is very obvious drew did not want this and did nothing to deserve this

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Please give me the scenario where crews is the good guy in this. By Drew's tweets it is very obvious drew did not want this and did nothing to deserve this

I don't want to speculate on what might have happened, but I wouldn't rely on the tweets of an upset player to give you the full version of the story.

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Especially since the coaching staff most often takes the high road and doesn't say a word about it. Relying on a kid, who may often be emotional and egotistical, for the whole story seems like it sets up potential for error.

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Shoe dont sidestep the issue. Crews was a greedy a$s that screwed this kid. The rule shouldn't have governed crews being a good person or not.

If you'll read my posts in this thread I think its pretty obvious I'm not happy with how this went down.

I just took this opportunity to point out to YOU that a long standing argument we've had about the merits of the APR system is trending more in my favor and even you are starting to see the fatal flaws of that system.

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Not a fan of this. Not a fan when Majerus did it, like the Greek kid last year. Not a fan now. Too much like SEC football. And not all big time programs do this. All have transfers. But not all are as cutthroat as cutting kids they offered full scholarships. Recruiting looks a lot better when you can just get rid of mistakes.

And now the kid is making a big enough deal of it to get bad press.

The only positive thing about this is that it is one thing that shows Crews is a tough enough coach to handle the position, similar to Majerus.

I think in some ways, the AD has to step in and control the coach here. The coach has to win games and if this is not breaking any rules, he will do it just not to get fired. The program probably should step in and say this is not acceptable.

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If you'll read my posts in this thread I think its pretty obvious I'm not happy with how this went down.

I just took this opportunity to point out to YOU that a long standing argument we've had about the merits of the APR system is trending more in my favor and even you are starting to see the fatal flaws of that system.

i have never said it was a good system other than that i was and am happy the ncaa is trying to make steps towards athletes being student athletes and not in college just to play their sports.

playing with a student athlete's life as crews did was wrong. the kid did nothing wrong beyond apparently not being able to dribble a basketball well. this staff recruited him. if they didnt know his basketball shortcomings that is on the staff. the fact drew was a decent student and a good citizen should have allowed him to fullfill his scholarship until he obtained his degree and it should have been on the staff to improve his basketball skills.

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I took the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator assessment once. I'm an INFJ.

Box, I am glad you are interested in this kind of thing. The results you got are a bit paradoxical since they make you both a feeling and a judgmental person, and also an intuitive introvert. As you realize, there may be a lot of internal life in you, but you manage very well to communicate with others so you do have quite a dose of extroversion as well.

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Box, I am glad you are interested in this kind of thing. The results you got are a bit paradoxical since they make you both a feeling and a judgmental person, and also an intuitive introvert. As you realize, there may be a lot of internal life in you, but you manage very well to communicate with others so you do have quite a dose of extroversion as well.

The Briggs-Meyer's test cannot be paradoxical.

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i have never said it was a good system other than that i was and am happy the ncaa is trying to make steps towards athletes being student athletes and not in college just to play their sports.

playing with a student athlete's life as crews did was wrong. the kid did nothing wrong beyond apparently not being able to dribble a basketball well. this staff recruited him. if they didnt know his basketball shortcomings that is on the staff. the fact drew was a decent student and a good citizen should have allowed him to fullfill his scholarship until he obtained his degree and it should have been on the staff to improve his basketball skills.

They did. The scholarship was for one year which was completed. Sometimes life sucks.

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i have never said it was a good system other than that i was and am happy the ncaa is trying to make steps towards athletes being student athletes and not in college just to play their sports.

playing with a student athlete's life as crews did was wrong. the kid did nothing wrong beyond apparently not being able to dribble a basketball well. this staff recruited him. if they didnt know his basketball shortcomings that is on the staff. the fact drew was a decent student and a good citizen should have allowed him to fullfill his scholarship until he obtained his degree and it should have been on the staff to improve his basketball skills.

Just so we have our facts straight: The only person that could have possibly been involved in Drew's recruitment out of highschool was Whitesell. If you are going to argue that convincing him to stay at SLU after Majerus took his leave of absence constitutes recruitment then I guess you can hang your hat on that, but it wasn't like he had a lot of options at that point.

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That may be. However Crews reportedly said the other day that Crawford was 6'3". Suddenly I'm not so sure we will be using him at the 3 spot.

This is not true at all. Mike is in the 6'5-6'6 range. He hasn't been 6'3 since 8th grade-frosh year. He can play the 1-3 in college. He's a much better player than Drew so that could be a reason Drew was shown the door.
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Just so we have our facts straight: The only person that could have possibly been involved in Drew's recruitment out of highschool was Whitesell. If you are going to argue that convincing him to stay at SLU after Majerus took his leave of absence constitutes recruitment then I guess you can hang your hat on that, but it wasn't like he had a lot of options at that point.

crews was on staff as an asst november of 2011 when drew signed his loi. tanner was also on staff not as an asst coach but on staff.

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